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[~fare@cpe-69-203-115-132.nyc.res.rr.com] has joined #scheme 15:11:13 pnkfelix [~Adium@194.78.20.44] has joined #scheme 15:12:21 gravicappa [~gravicapp@ppp91-77-168-132.pppoe.mtu-net.ru] has joined #scheme 15:14:06 For those curious from the other night about the GnuPG remote DoS I mentioned, this is the update to fix it: http://lists.gnupg.org/pipermail/gnupg-devel/2013-October/027994.html 15:14:07 amgarchIn9 [~amgarchin@p4FD62A64.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #scheme 15:14:18 -!- pnkfelix [~Adium@194.78.20.44] has quit [Client Quit] 15:15:20 Riastradh: congrats on finding that one 15:15:32 i wonder about the alternative OpenPGP implementations, like that of Bigloo 15:16:24 GnuTLS has another one 15:17:19 Anything that doesn't put a bound on the recursive processing of packets is vulnerable. 15:17:32 yeah 15:20:30 -!- ugoldw [~ugoldw@c-98-216-107-249.hsd1.ma.comcast.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 15:21:21 ugoldw [~ugoldw@c-98-216-107-249.hsd1.ma.comcast.net] has joined #scheme 15:22:35 i don't see recursive calls to the packet parser in https://gitorious.org/gnutls/gnutls/source/f372ce0aa0f67d707ac26464017037f3e2e87e5f:lib/opencdk/read-packet.c 15:22:36 http://tinyurl.com/pa8yhrw 15:23:00 pgpdump is structured in a weird way that seems to give it a very small bound, but I haven't followed it through to see how that works and why it just stops without reporting any error. 15:24:09 pgpdump? 15:24:22 A little utility to dump PGP packets human-readably. 15:24:31 ah, ok 15:24:36 Handy for seeing what's actually in them. Doesn't do any crypto itself, though. 15:25:44 I wouldn't expect the packet parser to do recursion itself. Most of the interesting recursion happens when you have key material handy to decrypt and verify nested messages. 15:25:51 And I would expect the packet parser not to be given key material. 15:28:01 hmm 15:28:09 I don't see any code in gnutls/opencdk to handle compression at all, though, actually. 15:28:56 -!- nisstyre [~yours@oftn/member/Nisstyre] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 15:29:06 Yaasky [~Adium@CPEbc1401e20373-CMbc1401e20370.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com] has joined #scheme 15:29:25 *Yaasky* waves hello 15:29:42 -!- gcartier [~gcartier@modemcable010.136-201-24.mc.videotron.ca] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 15:29:43 In fact, the code to parse compressed packets doesn't even seem to read them! 15:29:44 which scheme is the standard scheme? 15:29:51 None of them is. 15:30:03 I am trying to get a scheme keg from homebrew but there is a lot 15:30:24 Riastradh: which is good for starters then? 15:31:58 gcartier [~gcartier@modemcable010.136-201-24.mc.videotron.ca] has joined 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Hi. I would like to have a printed copy of R7Rs, but I want it to be close to the final version of it, and here comes the question, does R7Rs change (much) anymore? 11:20:16
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does "do" loop create a new scope? I mean if I will use "define" within the "(do..") construct, will the variable be visible after the loop termination? 12:14:37 gcartier [~gcartier@modemcable010.136-201-24.mc.videotron.ca] has joined #scheme 12:23:07 -!- Cromulent [~Cromulent@cpc1-reig5-2-0-cust251.6-3.cable.virginmedia.com] has quit [Quit: KVIrc 4.2.0 Equilibrium http://www.kvirc.net/] 12:37:58 Okasu [~1@94.25.228.106] has joined #scheme 12:37:59 -!- Okasu [~1@94.25.228.106] has quit [Changing host] 12:38:00 Okasu [~1@unaffiliated/okasu] has joined #scheme 12:47:27 ijp [~user@host86-132-92-201.range86-132.btcentralplus.com] has joined #scheme 12:51:51 -!- wingo [~wingo@cha74-2-88-160-190-192.fbx.proxad.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 13:00:40 hiroakip [~hiroaki@77-23-26-6-dynip.superkabel.de] has joined #scheme 13:04:03 -!- oleo [~oleo@xdsl-78-35-144-172.netcologne.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 13:04:44 oleo [~oleo@xdsl-84-44-208-129.netcologne.de] has joined #scheme 13:05:10 pnkfelix [~Adium@194.78.20.44] has joined #scheme 13:08:30 -!- sethalves [~user@headache.hungry.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 13:17:49 main, try macroexpanding it 13:18:37
jewel_, if it is a macro it should bind in the outer scope, isn't that true ? 13:19:45 main, once macros are expanded only the normal scoping rules apply 13:20:03 main, so if you macroexpand it, it should be easier for you to reason about 13:20:08
jewel_, how to macro expand something ? 13:20:49
jewel_, right now I can't write a proper do loop, yet. I'm staring at the R7Rs examples and ... doing my best :S 13:21:04 main, Are you just trying to write a loop? 13:21:57
jewel_, I am trying to learn using the only loop in scheme. Just got used to recursion so didn't do it yet 13:22:12 defanor_ [~defanor@ppp91-77-191-46.pppoe.mtu-net.ru] has joined #scheme 13:22:48
first one working ! 13:23:33 cdidd [~cdidd@128-72-27-17.broadband.corbina.ru] has joined #scheme 13:24:28 -!- defanor [~defanor@ppp91-77-186-67.pppoe.mtu-net.ru] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 13:25:21 alexei___ [~amgarchin@p4FD61B83.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #scheme 13:33:27 -!- effy [~quassel@222.131.155.249] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 13:40:25 MrFahrenheit [~RageOfTho@77.221.25.95] has joined #scheme 13:40:50 -!- gcartier [~gcartier@modemcable010.136-201-24.mc.videotron.ca] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 13:44:09 sethalves [~user@headache.hungry.com] has joined #scheme 13:47:09 jao [~jao@55.Red-79-148-157.dynamicIP.rima-tde.net] has joined #scheme 13:47:12 -!- jao [~jao@55.Red-79-148-157.dynamicIP.rima-tde.net] has quit [Changing host] 13:47:12 jao [~jao@pdpc/supporter/professional/jao] has joined #scheme 13:47:45 b4283 [~b4283@118.150.134.111] has joined #scheme 13:56:27 scmaccal [~scmaccal@bb-216-195-184-157.gwi.net] has joined #scheme 13:56:28 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would a build a full binary tree of n depth? e.g. 1 = (x () ()), 2 = (x (x () ()) (x () ())) etc? 19:24:50 -!- hiyosi [~skip_it@247.94.30.125.dy.iij4u.or.jp] has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 19:25:12 Cyclohexane: recursively :) 19:25:36 ecraven: yup, any further ideas? 19:26:03 you might want to share the left and right sides if they are the same anyway 19:26:14 yacks [~py@103.6.159.103] has joined #scheme 19:26:33 ijp: what do you mean by share? but yes they would be the same 19:26:49 Cyclohexane: recurse once, use that subtree as both the left and right branches 19:27:10 (let ((subtree (recurse))) (make-tree 'x subtree subtree)) 19:30:10 ccl-logbot [~ccl-logbo@setf.clozure.com] has joined #scheme 19:30:10 19:30:10 -!- names: ccl-logbot robot-be` BossKonaSegwaY1 yacks amgarchIn9 przl Fare hiroaki choas xenophon TaylanUB gcartier vraid theseb wingo kobain jrapdx MrFahrenheit acarrico MichaelRaskin sttau gzg annodomini tcsc jao leppie oleo ijp tupi gravicappa davexunit pnkfelix 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[uid14127@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-ubusyhsqedpftkyk] has joined #scheme 19:36:17 there is one further optimisation that didn't occur to me, which is that if you build the tree bottom-up, you can do it in constant stack space 19:36:42 jyc [~jyc@173.245.6.163] has joined #scheme 19:37:02 nisstyre [~yours@oftn/member/Nisstyre] has joined #scheme 19:37:17 rudybot: it's fun to optimize toy programs 19:37:19 ijp: i'd rather optimize for the common case of finding existing files 19:37:42 -!- theseb [~cs@74.194.237.26] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 19:37:53 ijp: I don't understand how I start constructing the list i.e. with '(x () ()) or how I expand the nodes like (x (x () ()) ..) etc 19:38:58 leppie [~lolcow@105-236-92-98.access.mtnbusiness.co.za] has joined #scheme 19:39:35 -!- SeySayux [SeySayux@libsylph/developer/seysayux] has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 19:41:20 <`^_^v> you can construct a tree of height 1 trivially using whatever notation you want, '() or '(nil x nil). you can construct a tree of height 2 by constructing two trees of height 1, call them a and b, and generating the tree '(a x b) 19:42:02 acarrico [~acarrico@hunt-sting-2-234.greenmountainaccess.net] has joined #scheme 19:42:58 SeySayux [SeySayux@libsylph/developer/seysayux] has joined #scheme 19:43:05 <`^_^v> wrong quotation there but you get the point 19:51:14 joast [~rick@cpe-24-160-56-92.socal.res.rr.com] has joined #scheme 19:51:28 theseb [~cs@74.194.237.26] has joined #scheme 19:51:38 Riastradh [~riastradh@fsf/member/riastradh] has joined #scheme 19:54:23 -!- jaimef [jaimef@dns.mauthesis.com] has quit [Excess Flood] 19:58:14 jaimef [jaimef@dns.mauthesis.com] has joined #scheme 19:59:48 -!- jewel [~jewel@105-236-138-104.access.mtnbusiness.co.za] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 20:00:11 -!- yacks [~py@103.6.159.103] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 20:00:27 jewel [~jewel@105-236-138-104.access.mtnbusiness.co.za] has joined #scheme 20:01:19 Cyclohexane: what do you have so far? 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