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2017-06-02T21:02:49Z Guest92579: hey guys
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2017-06-02T21:07:51Z Fox2: the scsh ncurses lib does not build here, Makefile is incorrect
2017-06-02T21:08:23Z Fox2: how to build thoses ncurses for scsh at all ?
2017-06-02T21:10:51Z Fox2: dude any action in here at all ?
2017-06-02T21:12:15Z wasamasa: yes, you
2017-06-02T21:12:23Z wasamasa: debug the makefile
2017-06-02T21:12:34Z wasamasa: look at what it runs, study that program, figure out how it works
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2017-06-02T21:14:51Z Fox2: yes, I understand the Makefile is bs. The C portion does not get compiled but that usually is handled fom a nice proper Makefile which autoconf does not produce for scsh-ncurses
2017-06-02T21:15:58Z Fox2: so I need the Makefile lines to compile that **.c stuff in ncurses/c
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2017-06-02T21:17:22Z Fox2: we are talking about this no-workie makefile.am right there :  http://scsh.cvs.sourceforge.net/viewvc/scsh/scsh-ncurses/
2017-06-02T21:18:00Z Fox2: missing any commands to actually compile the *.c files
2017-06-02T21:18:12Z wasamasa: that's normal for makefiles
2017-06-02T21:18:33Z Fox2: scah Makefile maybe ...
2017-06-02T21:18:37Z Fox2: scah
2017-06-02T21:18:44Z wasamasa: GNU make comes with a database of rules, one of which turns *.c into *.o
2017-06-02T21:18:44Z Fox2: scsh
2017-06-02T21:19:14Z Fox2: absolutely
2017-06-02T21:19:17Z wasamasa: and another one to link *.o into a binary
2017-06-02T21:19:27Z wasamasa: so I don't get what you're referring to
2017-06-02T21:19:48Z Fox2: OK is i s what you usually do
2017-06-02T21:19:51Z Fox2: unzip
2017-06-02T21:19:55Z Fox2: aclocal
2017-06-02T21:19:57Z Fox2: autocong
2017-06-02T21:20:02Z Fox2: autoconf
2017-06-02T21:20:07Z Fox2: ./configure
2017-06-02T21:20:09Z Fox2: make
2017-06-02T21:20:23Z Fox2: but that is a no-workie with those sources dude
2017-06-02T21:20:26Z Riastradh: Fox2: SUBDIRS = c
2017-06-02T21:20:57Z Fox2: beg your pardon, Ria ?
2017-06-02T21:21:17Z Riastradh: That's automakese for `when you make, recursively make in the ``c'' subdirectory too'.
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2017-06-02T21:22:18Z Fox2: oh
2017-06-02T21:22:58Z Riastradh: You also need to run `automake'.
2017-06-02T21:23:08Z Fox2: do I ?
2017-06-02T21:23:18Z Riastradh: Alternatively, you instead of running automake and autoconf, you can do `autoreconf -i', which figures out everything it needs.
2017-06-02T21:23:41Z Fox2: maybe I catch your drift ...
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2017-06-02T21:28:11Z Fox2: oh the famouse "bootstrap" line
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2017-06-02T21:32:26Z Fox2: scsh is the thing, dude
2017-06-02T21:34:27Z Fox2: you can edit without any bloody registration in the scheme wiki :   http://community.schemewiki.org/cgi-bin/scheme.cgi?%23scheme-on-freenode
2017-06-02T21:34:51Z Fox2: just click "edit" and go ahead
2017-06-02T21:37:59Z Fox2: some sandbox spammers there, but negligable
2017-06-02T21:38:33Z Riastradh: Golly, I had no idea anyone still paid attention to that!
2017-06-02T21:38:46Z Fox2: dude its a kewl wiki
2017-06-02T21:38:57Z Riastradh: I haven't touched it in probably over a decade...
2017-06-02T21:39:18Z Fox2: dude scsh is making a HUGE comeback on the scene !!
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2017-06-02T21:39:28Z Riastradh: Huh.
2017-06-02T21:39:34Z Fox2: yeah
2017-06-02T21:39:53Z Fox2: they all got hooked on scsh with scheme-48 , dude
2017-06-02T21:40:22Z Fox2: and "Commander S" , of course ...
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2017-06-02T21:40:33Z Fox2: once that ncurses builds
2017-06-02T21:40:37Z Riastradh: Wonder whether Anton is still actually maintaining anything about it.
2017-06-02T21:41:06Z Fox2: wiki or scsh.net ?
2017-06-02T21:41:12Z Riastradh: wiki
2017-06-02T21:41:32Z Fox2: dude its a fast wiki runniong on some scheme appearantly
2017-06-02T21:42:33Z Fox2: if that wiki is truely powered by scheme, that's another proof right there !
2017-06-02T21:42:40Z wasamasa: unlikely
2017-06-02T21:42:50Z wasamasa: most wiki software is either php or perl
2017-06-02T21:42:53Z Fox2: scsh.net dropped the scheme websserver
2017-06-02T21:43:11Z Fox2: yeah
2017-06-02T21:43:28Z wasamasa: but then, https://practical-scheme.net/wiliki/wiliki.cgi
2017-06-02T21:43:29Z Fox2: pity, really
2017-06-02T21:43:41Z wasamasa: "WiLiKi 0.5-tekili-7 running on Gauche 0.9"
2017-06-02T21:44:00Z Fox2: u think itz true ?
2017-06-02T21:44:14Z wasamasa: depends on what you trust
2017-06-02T21:44:28Z Fox2: could be for real
2017-06-02T21:44:31Z wasamasa: if you don't trust anything, you're doomed to become a philosopher
2017-06-02T21:44:57Z Fox2: or a very prescient man indeed
2017-06-02T21:46:27Z Fox2: lets assume it is gauche-powered.
2017-06-02T21:47:19Z Fox2: too bad so few Larcency packages are kept by some maintainer dudes
2017-06-02T21:49:04Z Fox2: scheme-48 version 0.5.3 doesn't build either
2017-06-02T21:49:39Z Fox2: where is GuixSD when you need it ?
2017-06-02T21:50:39Z wasamasa: 🎜 "In the Gutter, see it swimming" ♫
2017-06-02T21:51:18Z Fox2: maybe , dude
2017-06-02T21:53:00Z Fox2: OK so what is your coolest scheme implemtation you run ? mine is S48 but I am kinda glancing at Larceny
2017-06-02T21:53:29Z wasamasa: I only run CHICKEN
2017-06-02T21:53:35Z Fox2: OK fine
2017-06-02T21:53:48Z wasamasa: it's good if you actually want to write programs
2017-06-02T21:54:01Z Fox2: understood
2017-06-02T21:54:02Z wasamasa: as opposed to gushing over a decade old scheme code
2017-06-02T21:54:11Z Fox2: got you !
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2017-06-02T21:55:43Z Fox2: chicken has a good infrastucture established on planet "Linux"
2017-06-02T21:56:50Z Fox2: actually looked into the CLOS OOP part of chicken today
2017-06-02T21:57:12Z Fox2: tiny-clos
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2017-06-02T22:09:06Z Fox2: yeah ...  update with severe connotations :   https://practical-scheme.net/wiliki/wiliki.cgi?SandBoxWiliki
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2017-06-02T22:51:03Z Fox2: nice wiki , man
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2017-06-02T22:58:54Z Fox2: some of the usenet newsgroups on scheme / scsh saw fresh posts recently !
2017-06-02T23:00:18Z mason: I miss Usenet.
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2017-06-02T23:05:36Z Fox2: tons of free usenet providers not requiring any registration ! just click and read nntp://
2017-06-02T23:06:21Z Fox2: it is usenet SEASON   :-)
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