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2017-06-01T14:32:44Z OjD: Hello all, I have a question regarding quotation and lists:
2017-06-01T14:32:54Z OjD: https://thepasteb.in/p/X6hBrGjpwxni3
2017-06-01T14:33:32Z jackdaniel: what is the question?
2017-06-01T14:34:21Z OjD: If i use quotation to define the module,  if I ask for the object (get-obj) I get the object
2017-06-01T14:34:22Z jackdaniel: put spaces between arguments, it looks atracious: "(define (get-name obj)(car obj))" – "(define (get-name obj) (car obj))"
2017-06-01T14:34:35Z OjD: sorry about that
2017-06-01T14:34:51Z jackdaniel: np, just a style hint for future use
2017-06-01T14:34:52Z rain1: '(object ...) will just be the symbol called object
2017-06-01T14:34:57Z OjD: yes
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2017-06-01T14:35:14Z rain1: `(,object ...) lets you use quasi quote syntax but still get the value of object in your list
2017-06-01T14:35:31Z OjD: and I will get an error trying to evaluate (get-name (get-obj module))
2017-06-01T14:36:11Z OjD: with quotation only
2017-06-01T14:36:52Z OjD: I am wondering if there is any way to get the name of the obj (object) instead of the what it evaluates to)
2017-06-01T14:37:51Z OjD: e.g when I call (get-obj module) I would like to get (object)
2017-06-01T14:38:06Z OjD: but still be able to use the information contained in it
2017-06-01T14:39:26Z OjD: I am asking because I have "objects with a lot of parameters" and then I am building modules based on such objects and I need the info contained in the object for some calcs, but in other cases (printf) I only need to know the name of the object
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2017-06-01T14:40:06Z OjD: right now I am including the name as the first element in the object itself, but wondering if there is another (better) way
2017-06-01T14:40:23Z gwatt: Have you considered records?
2017-06-01T14:41:35Z OjD: nope, my knowledge is rather limited
2017-06-01T14:41:39Z OjD: but let me google it
2017-06-01T14:43:10Z gwatt: Here's the r6rs spec for records:http://www.r6rs.org/final/html/r6rs-lib/r6rs-lib-Z-H-7.html#node_chap_6
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2017-06-01T14:54:06Z OjD: It looks a lot cleaner, but I am having the same issue, when I ask for the object (record in this case) I get all the information contained
2017-06-01T14:54:19Z OjD: #(struct:obj "property-obj" 1 2 3)
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2017-06-01T14:59:19Z gwatt: What's the code you've got now?
2017-06-01T15:02:35Z OjD: https://thepasteb.in/p/Q1hBZ9gVQwMh8
2017-06-01T15:02:42Z OjD: I am using DrRacket
2017-06-01T15:02:56Z OjD: and I am getting:
2017-06-01T15:03:00Z OjD: #(struct:obj 1 2 3)
2017-06-01T15:03:02Z OjD: 1
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2017-06-01T15:30:21Z gwatt: When you get are getting the entire object, what do you want to happen?
2017-06-01T15:33:52Z OjD: if possible just a reference to its name (test)
2017-06-01T15:34:37Z OjD: for the project I am working on, every object has several parameters and I have dozens of objects
2017-06-01T15:35:08Z OjD: so I was hoping to printf a list of the objects created without showing the information contained
2017-06-01T15:35:54Z OjD: my solution: add another field, name and instead of asking for the record, ask for that field in the record
2017-06-01T15:37:22Z gwatt: yeah, that's probably the way to go
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2017-06-01T15:55:21Z OjD: ok, just want to confirm
2017-06-01T15:55:45Z OjD: thank you for the help, and for the info about records
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2017-06-01T21:08:48Z qq: dude, debian and Ubuntu will drop the scsh scheme48 package cuz itz 32 bit
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2017-06-01T21:17:14Z qq: dude they can't drop scheme48
2017-06-01T21:17:43Z rain1: can you update scheme48 to be 64 bit?
2017-06-01T21:19:54Z akkad: from 48bit?
2017-06-01T21:20:20Z ijp: *sting*
2017-06-01T21:23:11Z qq: scheme48 was written in 48 hours and is 32 bit. rewriting it to 64 bit is a tuff challenge
2017-06-01T21:23:24Z rain1: someone has to do it
2017-06-01T21:23:29Z qq: not me dude
2017-06-01T21:24:44Z qq: pity debian will drop it all
2017-06-01T21:24:51Z qq: Ubu too, of course
2017-06-01T21:26:10Z qq: there are 4 dudes on the scheme48 Ubu maintainer list, used to be 3 only
2017-06-01T21:27:05Z qq: dude , more people are still progamming in SINCLAIR-Basic than scheme-48  ...     :-(
2017-06-01T21:27:34Z rain1: what do you like about scheme48?
2017-06-01T21:40:53Z qq: the "Commander S" app, which sits on top of it seems kewl
2017-06-01T21:41:55Z qq: rain1 I think I joined ure wiki ...
2017-06-01T21:42:32Z qq: https://gitlab.com/rain1/guix-wiki/wikis/commander-s---the-scheme-commander
2017-06-01T21:43:12Z rain1: ah that sounds nice, parts of scsh have been ported to guile but its not complete
2017-06-01T21:43:35Z qq: only thing where it breaks is the bloody scsh-ncurses lib which won't build cuz Makefile gets not properly generated
2017-06-01T21:43:49Z qq: yes
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2017-06-01T21:47:09Z qq: yes a Ubu guy made a bin pack for Ubu of guile-scsh and there is that SDL fork ...
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2017-06-01T21:56:43Z qq: how the heck do you build scsh-ncurses ??  or is it broken ?
2017-06-01T22:03:54Z qq: dude , the whole "Scheme Underground" is 4 github dudes only ? for real ?
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2017-06-01T22:29:11Z ijp: first rule of scheme underground...
2017-06-01T22:34:05Z wasamasa: qq could cry moar
2017-06-01T22:39:54Z rain1: stfu
2017-06-01T22:40:44Z akkad: qq: you HAVE to fight
2017-06-01T22:40:59Z wasamasa: it's like picking stupid1 as nick
2017-06-01T22:41:30Z akkad: this is not #lisp, we are civil
2017-06-01T22:41:46Z wasamasa: for real!!
2017-06-01T22:47:33Z wasamasa: anyway, qq has been long gone, so no need to get all flustered
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2017-06-01T22:57:29Z mason: I'm merely befuddled.
2017-06-01T22:57:53Z mason: Gods, I hadn't thought about Sinclair BASIC for ages.
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2017-06-01T23:06:29Z akkad: :P
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