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2017-05-23T07:51:06Z Guest46465: in which Linux distro can you run "Commander S" ?    https://scsh.net/resources/commander-s.html
2017-05-23T07:51:27Z Guest46465: it does not install on NixOS
2017-05-23T07:51:37Z Guest46465: nor GuixSD
2017-05-23T07:53:50Z wasamasa: you mean, it's not in the repositories?
2017-05-23T07:54:03Z wasamasa: build it yourself :>
2017-05-23T07:57:34Z Guest46465: yeah they have n package
2017-05-23T07:57:50Z Guest46465: running the install.scm from source =  FAIL
2017-05-23T07:58:08Z Guest46465: so wherein does it work actually ?
2017-05-23T07:58:24Z wasamasa: fix it
2017-05-23T07:58:56Z Guest46465: I can't. I am clueless in scheme. that's why I need a proper soft like Cdr. "S"
2017-05-23T07:59:32Z wasamasa: it's ten years old code, so that's to be expected
2017-05-23T08:00:09Z Guest46465: yes, its to do with hardcoded /usr/share/ which was gotten rid of in some distros
2017-05-23T08:00:13Z wasamasa: this is less about scheme and more about packaging
2017-05-23T08:00:36Z wasamasa: not sure what you're talking about
2017-05-23T08:00:48Z wasamasa: my /usr/share is 3G
2017-05-23T08:01:21Z Guest46465: in guix and nixos and gobolinux there is no   /usr/ anymore. big step forward !
2017-05-23T08:01:53Z wasamasa: in guix and nixos there is also the need for its users to be proficient in packaging :P
2017-05-23T08:01:55Z wasamasa: no idea about gobolinux
2017-05-23T08:02:07Z Guest46465: gobo is fail mostly
2017-05-23T08:03:02Z Guest46465: gobolinux liveCD works nicely, once u install, it goes haywire real fast
2017-05-23T08:05:25Z Guest46465: but some idead from "Commander S" seem to be recreated in eshell of Emacs appearantly
2017-05-23T08:05:29Z Guest46465: ideas
2017-05-23T08:07:48Z civodul: Guest46465: it would be nice if you could make a Commander S package for Guix though :-)
2017-05-23T08:07:54Z civodul: people on #guix should be able to help
2017-05-23T08:08:21Z Guest46465: first I must smarten up on scheme big time
2017-05-23T08:08:55Z Guest46465: I was on guix but one cares about scheme-48 there ... they luv their guile 2.2.2
2017-05-23T08:09:27Z Guest46465: no one cares -- typo
2017-05-23T08:09:28Z wasamasa: why, of course, it's a GNU project :P
2017-05-23T08:09:48Z wasamasa: I bet it's the same with clisp vs sbcl
2017-05-23T08:10:03Z Guest46465: they made a guile-scsh but it kinda bitrotted by now
2017-05-23T08:11:39Z Guest46465: there is also a line editor to make scsh a bit more workable
2017-05-23T08:12:03Z wasamasa: rlwrap helps with such cases
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2017-05-23T08:13:06Z Guest46465: yes but Commander S offers some more improvements beyond the editing in scsh
2017-05-23T08:18:02Z Guest46465: I guess I'll use eclipse + scheme48 ...
2017-05-23T08:18:16Z wasamasa: lol
2017-05-23T08:18:21Z Guest46465: ?
2017-05-23T08:18:52Z wasamasa: learning how packaging works seems to be the smaller evil than using eclipse
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2017-05-23T08:34:06Z Guest46465: in guix , packaging is done in scheme which I'm clueless about, as I stated above
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2017-05-23T14:16:39Z jcowan_: Fine, but does it justify code exactly like Emacs, hmmmm?
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2017-05-23T14:33:10Z ventonegro: If not for using Emacs, why even boot the computer?
2017-05-23T14:35:11Z pierpa: to warm up the room, in winter
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2017-05-23T21:33:05Z gwatt: I have a syntax case expander that calls out to functions, but if I put it in a library I get "out of phase" errors
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2017-05-23T23:31:41Z Riastradh: gwatt: Nope, that is exactly what doesn't make sense and what the semantics of separate phases formalizes.  Use two modules for that, or use define-for-syntax &c.
2017-05-23T23:32:30Z Riastradh: akkad: Hmm...  There's the slib relational database!  (More seriously: not likely one that you want to use, and/or you need to specify more precisely what kinds of objects and how you want to store them for any answer in any language.)
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