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2017-05-21T04:20:00Z happy_gnu: hello
2017-05-21T04:20:34Z happy_gnu: does anyone know where can I read about the difference on lambda and define
2017-05-21T04:20:57Z happy_gnu: I am just starting to learn programming and some resources seem very technical for my knowledge
2017-05-21T04:22:56Z happy_gnu: so far seems like there is not a meaningful difference
2017-05-21T04:23:08Z happy_gnu: at least to start
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2017-05-21T04:26:13Z lucasem: happy_gnu: define binds a name in subsequent expressions at its scope. But yeah you can do everything with lambda instead of defined, it just involves more parens and more scoped-in code.
2017-05-21T04:27:07Z happy_gnu: lucasem: so lambdas are faster? because they don't have the binding?
2017-05-21T04:27:37Z lucasem: happy_gnu: they aren't necessarily faster. It'd be dependent on which implementation of Scheme you're using.
2017-05-21T04:28:09Z lucasem: for the sake of code style, you should use them each where they make more sense
2017-05-21T04:28:35Z happy_gnu: ohh ok lucasem
2017-05-21T04:28:49Z happy_gnu: I guess the hard part will be figuriing out which one to use :/
2017-05-21T04:29:15Z happy_gnu: but I am reading sicp and watching 3 different lectures by each chapter
2017-05-21T04:29:28Z happy_gnu: the ones of 1986 and other 2 series I saw on hacker news
2017-05-21T04:29:35Z lucasem: good
2017-05-21T04:29:35Z happy_gnu: so I hope I will learn it
2017-05-21T04:29:37Z lucasem: SICP is good.
2017-05-21T04:29:41Z happy_gnu: yes
2017-05-21T04:29:48Z happy_gnu: I know very little about programming
2017-05-21T04:29:51Z happy_gnu: but so far is great
2017-05-21T04:29:59Z happy_gnu: better than python or javascript
2017-05-21T04:30:51Z lucasem: Yeah it's more focused on the computer-sciency aspects (e.g. "meta-linguistic abstraction") rather than just building something that works. I think it's a good place to understand computation.
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2017-05-21T08:05:42Z pookleblinky: I'm gonna try to switch my github page to Frog.
2017-05-21T08:06:23Z pookleblinky: Unfortunately, looks like the master branch is not only the default, but can't be switched out for another, so switching involves merging.
2017-05-21T08:08:22Z pjb: gitlab can fetch branches from github.
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2017-05-21T08:19:15Z akkad: new sagittarius and new gerbil. busy weekend
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2017-05-21T15:13:17Z qu1j0t3: happy_gnu: SICP is good but doesn't teach scheme. Look for a text that does. I've used "Programming in Scheme" among others.
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2017-05-21T17:21:35Z lockdown: does scheme prints top level expressions to std out by default?
2017-05-21T17:22:09Z ecraven: depends on your implementation, but I haven't seen any that does not
2017-05-21T17:24:50Z lockdown: ecraven: ok, looks like racket does, for example, I create a function, make a function and doing racket foo.rk prints the value without calling any print/display statement
2017-05-21T17:25:06Z lockdown: s/make a function/make a function call/
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2017-05-21T19:18:46Z ecraven: why did Skribe (http://www-sop.inria.fr/mimosa/fp/Skribe/doc/user.html) never catch on :-/
2017-05-21T19:19:03Z ecraven: that looks like a decent syntax alternative to LaTeX to me
2017-05-21T19:23:27Z DeeEff: Skribe seems more like an alternative to markup (i.e. XML / HTML)
2017-05-21T19:23:47Z DeeEff: TeX is more about typesetting than it is about document creation (the two go hand in hand)
2017-05-21T19:24:51Z DeeEff: Also, for most publications, having to put paragraphs and subsections into [] braces would be annoying, whereas in TeX you can at least write in a .tex file as you would in word (plus relevant macros and begin/end pieces)
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2017-05-21T19:38:19Z X-Scale: It looks really nice in comparison to html.
2017-05-21T19:38:49Z Riastradh: X-Scale: Hard to set the bar much lower!
2017-05-21T19:39:19Z Riastradh: ecraven: I'm under the impression Scribble is a little livelier.
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2017-05-21T20:03:43Z edgar-rft wonders what markup language was used when the bible was written
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2017-05-21T20:15:10Z Riastradh: A fancy classical one called scriptura continua.
2017-05-21T20:22:51Z edgar-rft: Riastradh: at the time when abraham lived nobody knew latin will exist thousands of years later
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2017-05-21T20:24:06Z Riastradh: Are you suggesting my pithy quip may be a trifle frayed at the seams of its historical accuracy?
2017-05-21T20:26:55Z edgar-rft: Riastradh: I think it would be very keen to call the legends about abraham and moses anything like "historically accurate" :-)
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2017-05-21T20:56:00Z ecraven: Riastradh: yea, it's also much less interesting, syntax-wise :-/
2017-05-21T20:56:28Z ecraven: edgar-rft: don't think it was more than a few hundred years
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2017-05-21T21:01:08Z Riastradh: [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Abraham
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2017-05-21T21:06:22Z ecraven: Riastradh: I've written a primitive Skribe "parser" (just special-casing handling of []), is the right way to go about this with MIT/GNU Scheme to parameterize param;
2017-05-21T21:06:40Z ecraven: param:parser-table (and param:parser-keyword-style) with a `load-skribe' procedure?
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2017-05-21T21:07:43Z Riastradh: Err...  I have no idea at the moment.
2017-05-21T21:07:56Z Riastradh: Chris made a lot of changes to the parser that I haven't followed.
2017-05-21T21:08:09Z ecraven: ah, I haven't checked against current git head
2017-05-21T21:08:27Z ecraven: I'll do that, thank you!
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