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Any recommendations, please? 2017-04-29T12:21:25Z ecraven: SICP has some of that with explanations 2017-04-29T12:21:55Z wasamasa: the CHICKEN author wrote such a thing, but no idea about its quality 2017-04-29T12:47:50Z bjz joined #scheme 2017-04-29T12:50:51Z alezost joined #scheme 2017-04-29T13:08:09Z cemerick joined #scheme 2017-04-29T13:11:00Z mgood7123 quit (Ping timeout: 260 seconds) 2017-04-29T13:30:38Z qu1j0t3: joe9: PAIP shows one, but it's impl in Common Lisp 2017-04-29T13:35:22Z joe9: qu1j0t3: Thanks. will check it out. 2017-04-29T13:35:54Z joe9: qu1j0t3: what is PAIP? 2017-04-29T13:44:45Z cemerick quit (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) 2017-04-29T13:45:28Z brendyn quit (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) 2017-04-29T13:50:04Z sethalves joined #scheme 2017-04-29T13:59:05Z qu1j0t3: joe9: Norvig, Paradigms of Artificial Intelligence Programming 2017-04-29T14:00:05Z qu1j0t3: also Norvig: http://norvig.com/lispy.html ; http://norvig.com/lispy2.html 2017-04-29T14:02:51Z sethalves quit (Quit: Leaving.) 2017-04-29T14:03:09Z sethalves joined #scheme 2017-04-29T14:18:05Z practica` quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 2017-04-29T14:18:24Z practica` joined #scheme 2017-04-29T14:22:25Z alezost quit (Quit: I live in GuixSD and Emacs ) 2017-04-29T14:23:19Z TheLemonMan joined #scheme 2017-04-29T14:27:37Z pilne joined #scheme 2017-04-29T14:30:20Z lritter quit (Ping timeout: 260 seconds) 2017-04-29T14:37:55Z practica` quit (Ping timeout: 268 seconds) 2017-04-29T14:38:26Z practica` joined #scheme 2017-04-29T14:45:28Z cemerick joined #scheme 2017-04-29T14:49:19Z nomicflux joined #scheme 2017-04-29T14:50:35Z nomicflux quit (Client Quit) 2017-04-29T14:56:57Z pjb: joe9: Lisp in Small Pieces http://pagesperso-systeme.lip6.fr/Christian.Queinnec/WWW/LiSP.html http://pagesperso-systeme.lip6.fr/Christian.Queinnec/Books/LiSP-2ndEdition-2006Dec11.tgz 2017-04-29T14:57:23Z cmatei quit (Ping timeout: 260 seconds) 2017-04-29T14:57:26Z pjb: joe9: shows not one, but 9 implementations of scheme! 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As scheme is so well thought out, I am thinking that there must be a reason that the original authors did not have them in. 2017-04-29T20:19:18Z joe9: Is there a way to use functions or macros instead of using modules? 2017-04-29T20:20:51Z wasamasa: not really 2017-04-29T20:21:08Z wasamasa: the thing with modules is that for them to have the desired properties, they must be part of the runtime 2017-04-29T20:23:29Z wasamasa: see emacs lisp as an example and the many macros attempting to address the biggest issue of not having one, typing out lengthy prefixes every time 2017-04-29T20:24:24Z joe9: wasamasa: oh, they use macros instead of module qualification 2017-04-29T20:24:34Z jao joined #scheme 2017-04-29T20:24:49Z wasamasa: no, it's just a few people trying to scratch that itch at the wrong level 2017-04-29T20:25:21Z wasamasa: as for why scheme didn't have them, well, it's not like you need modules for writing programs of the SICP kind 2017-04-29T20:25:50Z wasamasa: they are useful for anything large programs, sure, but that's not what scheme was designed for 2017-04-29T20:26:24Z joe9: oh, that reasoning makes sense. keep the programs small and reduce the need for modularity(?) 2017-04-29T20:26:55Z wasamasa: that isn't what I argued for :> 2017-04-29T20:27:40Z joe9: sure, I am just trying to understand. Almost every aspect is well thought out. The elegance is amazing. 2017-04-29T20:28:43Z wasamasa: it eventually evolved beyond that, as scheme was used for more than educational purposes 2017-04-29T20:34:28Z manualcrank joined #scheme 2017-04-29T20:35:49Z practica` quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 2017-04-29T20:36:06Z practica` joined #scheme 2017-04-29T20:39:02Z jao quit (Ping timeout: 252 seconds) 2017-04-29T20:41:30Z grublet quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 2017-04-29T20:42:41Z pjb quit (Ping timeout: 258 seconds) 2017-04-29T20:47:17Z igajsin quit (Ping timeout: 252 seconds) 2017-04-29T20:49:40Z ertes quit (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) 2017-04-29T20:54:50Z grublet joined #scheme 2017-04-29T21:01:15Z brendyn joined #scheme 2017-04-29T21:07:08Z pjb joined #scheme 2017-04-29T21:07:17Z pjb is now known as Guest40165 2017-04-29T21:09:35Z Guest40165 is now known as pjb` 2017-04-29T21:09:44Z pjb` is now known as pjb 2017-04-29T21:10:20Z joe9: wasamasa: are there any books or reading material that you would recommend to appreciate scheme even more (develop an intuition for the language)? 2017-04-29T21:11:57Z gravicappa quit (Remote host closed the connection) 2017-04-29T21:19:18Z wasamasa: I've heard good things about Lisp in Small Pieces 2017-04-29T21:20:18Z joe9: I was trying to find a cheaper used book of it. 2017-04-29T21:20:45Z wasamasa: but no, haven't read many of these myself 2017-04-29T21:20:55Z wasamasa: I'm currently working myself through sicp at a slow pace 2017-04-29T21:21:34Z joe9: http://repository.readscheme.org/ftp/papers/sw2002/queinnec-modules.pdf found this article. 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