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Seems to me it could be a good compiling target for all sorts of languages. 2016-08-09T01:32:26Z Landru: emmanueloga: Compilation generally rolls downhill. 2016-08-09T01:33:09Z Landru: Consider the extreme example - what would assembler look like compiled to Scheme? 2016-08-09T01:34:09Z ASau quit (Ping timeout: 244 seconds) 2016-08-09T01:35:52Z emmanueloga: well that's an extreme example, but consider a language like, say, java or dart. It wouldn't be so difficult to map it to scheme. 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(else (A (- x 1) (A x (- y 1)).. 2016-08-09T13:07:30Z mxci: I don't understand the purpose of that ' - ' 2016-08-09T13:07:37Z mxci: The first one. 2016-08-09T13:08:29Z mxci: Nevermind,asking made me realise. 2016-08-09T13:08:31Z mxci left #scheme 2016-08-09T13:09:54Z ovenpasta joined #scheme 2016-08-09T13:14:40Z zwdr joined #scheme 2016-08-09T13:21:16Z grettke joined #scheme 2016-08-09T13:23:19Z ovenpasta quit (Ping timeout: 252 seconds) 2016-08-09T13:25:25Z oleo joined #scheme 2016-08-09T13:26:14Z badkins joined #scheme 2016-08-09T13:26:40Z karswell` is now known as karswell 2016-08-09T13:31:04Z DGASAU quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 2016-08-09T13:31:43Z DGASAU joined #scheme 2016-08-09T13:51:34Z bjz quit (Ping timeout: 250 seconds) 2016-08-09T13:51:36Z kssreeram joined #scheme 2016-08-09T13:51:38Z bjz_ joined #scheme 2016-08-09T13:54:07Z jlongster joined #scheme 2016-08-09T14:17:54Z groscoe joined #scheme 2016-08-09T14:20:16Z kssreeram quit (Quit: My Mac has gone to sleep. 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I would look at GNU mathprog if I had to deal with linear programming. 2016-08-09T16:01:16Z DGASAU: It implements a variation of simplex algorithm, but some aspects of initialization phase escape my analysis. 2016-08-09T16:01:31Z DGASAU: What is "mathprog"? 2016-08-09T16:01:38Z lexicall joined #scheme 2016-08-09T16:01:39Z Riastradh: Maybe the GNU mathprog or GLPK documentation will have references. 2016-08-09T16:01:54Z DGASAU: GLPK differs significantly. 2016-08-09T16:02:04Z DGASAU: I've read its documentation already. 2016-08-09T16:02:28Z Riastradh: OK. 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They look like cons, car, cdr, but hard to be sure. 2016-08-09T22:04:15Z jcowan: There is also the problem that you are using a curly quote instead of a straight one, which won't work. 2016-08-09T22:05:24Z n_blownapart: jcowan: thanks I changed the curly quotes as per soeg*aard's suggestion yesterday. 2016-08-09T22:06:29Z jcowan: you missed the ones on the right side of cond 2016-08-09T22:08:11Z n_blownapart: yeah thanks jcowan just on the paste (I fixed it there) but running it still produces that error 2016-08-09T22:08:35Z jcowan: Show us the code for sentence, empty?, first, bf. 2016-08-09T22:09:03Z zacts quit (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) 2016-08-09T22:10:30Z n_blownapart: looking for it thanks jcowan I saw it yesterday somewher 2016-08-09T22:10:31Z n_blownapart: e 2016-08-09T22:13:48Z Naraka quit (Ping timeout: 250 seconds) 2016-08-09T22:17:51Z Riastradh quit (Ping timeout: 264 seconds) 2016-08-09T22:19:06Z Naraka joined #scheme 2016-08-09T22:19:12Z sethalves quit (Remote host closed the connection) 2016-08-09T22:22:01Z n_blownapart: jcowan: thanks for looking at bf and sentence : https://www.refheap.com/122039 2016-08-09T22:22:22Z n_blownapart: other two defs coming ... 2016-08-09T22:23:06Z wtetzner joined #scheme 2016-08-09T22:23:53Z n_blownapart: https://www.refheap.com/122040 jcowan defs for empty? and first 2016-08-09T22:24:29Z robotoad quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 2016-08-09T22:24:40Z n_blownapart: ftp://ftp.cs.berkeley.edu/pub/scheme/simply.scm -- all simply-scheme definitions 2016-08-09T22:24:51Z robotoad joined #scheme 2016-08-09T22:25:08Z teurastaja joined #scheme 2016-08-09T22:25:12Z kssreeram quit (Quit: My Mac has gone to sleep. 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ZZZzzz…) 2016-08-09T22:53:05Z Menche: does seem to be a work in progress, I'm too jumpy 2016-08-09T22:56:52Z XTL_ is now known as XTL 2016-08-09T22:56:58Z wasamasa: lol 2016-08-09T22:57:06Z wasamasa: we should fork MAL and do a lisp-only variant 2016-08-09T22:57:10Z Menche: ? 2016-08-09T22:57:36Z wasamasa: the author isn't too thrilled about adding other scheme submissions as they'll just look like the existing ones 2016-08-09T22:59:41Z Menche: grar, cyclone compiler insists on putting the .c, .o, and executable in the same directory as the scheme source file 2016-08-09T23:02:12Z teurastaja quit (Ping timeout: 244 seconds) 2016-08-09T23:04:52Z kssreeram joined #scheme 2016-08-09T23:05:13Z wasamasa: no -o? 2016-08-09T23:05:49Z Menche: no 2016-08-09T23:06:49Z teurastaja joined #scheme 2016-08-09T23:06:59Z wasamasa: ._. 2016-08-09T23:07:59Z lambda-11235 quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 2016-08-09T23:08:18Z robotoad joined #scheme 2016-08-09T23:08:39Z ovenpasta quit (Ping timeout: 258 seconds) 2016-08-09T23:09:32Z teurastaja: i use gauche if thats still the topic 2016-08-09T23:10:03Z teurastaja: in r7rs mode of course 2016-08-09T23:11:14Z teurastaja: pretty tight implementation but it seems to lack good GUI libraries if you ask 2016-08-09T23:14:44Z Menche uses mainly gauche/gosh 2016-08-09T23:15:20Z teurastaja: Menche: in r7rs mode? 2016-08-09T23:15:40Z Menche: yeah 2016-08-09T23:15:57Z teurastaja: nice 2016-08-09T23:16:15Z teurastaja: any problems with it? 2016-08-09T23:16:19Z kssreeram quit (Ping timeout: 244 seconds) 2016-08-09T23:16:30Z Menche: no 2016-08-09T23:16:49Z wasamasa: gui libraries are generally problematic 2016-08-09T23:16:56Z teurastaja: im proud to say its a product from quebec ;) 2016-08-09T23:17:02Z wasamasa: it's not the kind of stuff you can write yourself in a short time 2016-08-09T23:17:18Z wasamasa: and writing wrappers to them can be intimidating, especially if it's huge C++ stuff 2016-08-09T23:17:36Z wasamasa: I've had great success with https://github.com/andlabs/libui and https://github.com/vurtun/nuklear 2016-08-09T23:18:00Z Menche: haven't gotten chicken's compiler to make a static executable with the R7RS egg 2016-08-09T23:18:09Z teurastaja: what i see so far is the mess of SSE instructions 2016-08-09T23:18:32Z teurastaja: and the optional GPU setting 2016-08-09T23:18:53Z groscoe quit (Ping timeout: 244 seconds) 2016-08-09T23:19:00Z Menche: ? 2016-08-09T23:19:25Z teurastaja: just talking from an ASM perspective 2016-08-09T23:19:48Z teurastaja: SSE is a mess 2016-08-09T23:20:14Z teurastaja: and GPUs are optional 2016-08-09T23:21:19Z teurastaja: there is the option of binding using existing libraries in other languages, but nothing native 2016-08-09T23:21:37Z dmiles quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 2016-08-09T23:22:06Z Menche: libui is just a layer over whatever native toolkits are availabel 2016-08-09T23:22:09Z Menche: available? 2016-08-09T23:22:12Z wasamasa: exactly 2016-08-09T23:22:19Z Menche: looks like GTK3 for the Xorg screenshot 2016-08-09T23:22:27Z wasamasa: yes, that's a very recent gtk3 2016-08-09T23:22:50Z wasamasa: IUP is a more mature thing seeking to do the same 2016-08-09T23:23:08Z wasamasa: but I had no luck in getting it to build :S 2016-08-09T23:23:40Z teurastaja: interesting 2016-08-09T23:23:44Z Menche: looks like there are chicken eggs for both libui and nuklear 2016-08-09T23:24:01Z Menche: nuklear looks like it makes its own toolkit instead of using what's available? 2016-08-09T23:24:41Z wasamasa: yes 2016-08-09T23:24:49Z wasamasa: it's modeled after the dear imgui library 2016-08-09T23:24:49Z teurastaja: nothing interesting on gauche though... all deprecated stuff 2016-08-09T23:25:08Z wasamasa: which is designed to be used in games and other applications using opengl 2016-08-09T23:25:18Z wasamasa: the eggs are by me :P 2016-08-09T23:25:29Z wasamasa: I wrote a thesis on the topic 2016-08-09T23:25:48Z teurastaja: could you implement for gauche please? 2016-08-09T23:25:54Z wasamasa: lolnope 2016-08-09T23:25:55Z Menche fought with chicken a bit to get eggs installed locally 2016-08-09T23:26:07Z Menche: in my home dir rather than system wide that is 2016-08-09T23:26:17Z wasamasa: but feel free to consult my docs 2016-08-09T23:26:35Z wasamasa: or the code, writing wrappers is more an exercise in patience than a challenge 2016-08-09T23:26:59Z wasamasa: once you have figured out how memory management works and wrapped the tricky bits, the rest is fairly boring 2016-08-09T23:27:25Z dmiles joined #scheme 2016-08-09T23:27:57Z wasamasa: judging from the gauche-gtk sources, it's more involved with gauche ._. 2016-08-09T23:28:26Z teurastaja: involved? 2016-08-09T23:28:42Z wasamasa: more footwork 2016-08-09T23:29:31Z teurastaja: yeah... if you want access to GPU matrix multiplication you only have 4x4 matrices 2016-08-09T23:30:11Z wasamasa: anyway, I'll have to get some sleep 2016-08-09T23:30:24Z teurastaja: good sleep 2016-08-09T23:30:26Z wasamasa: feel free to ping me if you for whatever reason feel like chatting about the topic 2016-08-09T23:30:42Z wasamasa: night 2016-08-09T23:31:25Z teurastaja: thanks 2016-08-09T23:32:55Z teurastaja: so yeah... i think scheme lacks behind in AI these days because it lacks efficient matrix libraries 2016-08-09T23:33:37Z teurastaja: i hacked up my own but nothing production quality 2016-08-09T23:34:43Z teurastaja: if Scheme could extend vectors to handle matrices efficiently it would be wonderful but i prefered to use plain lists 2016-08-09T23:34:54Z lambda-11235 joined #scheme 2016-08-09T23:35:03Z _sjs joined #scheme 2016-08-09T23:49:20Z cemerick joined #scheme 2016-08-09T23:54:07Z kssreeram joined #scheme 2016-08-09T23:58:37Z enderby joined #scheme