2016-05-27T00:02:33Z galex-713: ohhhh that’s why
2016-05-27T00:02:33Z galex-713: ok
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2016-05-27T01:26:54Z dTal: Okay. How do you output text on a binary port?
2016-05-27T01:27:30Z dTal: (finding this whole semantic distinction between textual and binary ports really weird - shouldn't all ports be binary, and textual encoding layered on top? Anyway)
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2016-05-27T02:03:20Z dTal: Well, after an embarassing amount of fiddling, it finally works
2016-05-27T02:03:48Z dTal: I now have a basic PostScript wrapper for Chez Scheme :)
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2016-05-27T18:03:11Z ecraven: dTal: from what I know, textual/binary is only useful on windows?
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2016-05-27T18:37:32Z scheme90: Is (lambda () x) syntactically correct?
2016-05-27T18:37:59Z galex-713: I think so
2016-05-27T18:38:25Z scheme90: im writing a syntax checker but i cant seem to get it to display #t if it is syntactically correct
2016-05-27T18:38:37Z scheme90: any resources on checkin lambda syntax?
2016-05-27T18:38:47Z scheme90: couldn't find anything on it in the documentation
2016-05-27T18:38:50Z wasamasa: I'd consult the reports
2016-05-27T18:38:59Z scheme90: sorry which are the reports?
2016-05-27T18:39:10Z wasamasa: depends on the scheme standard you're aiming for :P
2016-05-27T18:39:48Z wasamasa: http://www.schemers.org/Documents/Standards/R5RS/
2016-05-27T18:40:29Z scheme90: probably a really dumb question but how do you check your scheme standard haha
2016-05-27T18:40:39Z wasamasa: what implementation are you using?
2016-05-27T18:40:58Z wasamasa: it should advertise what scheme standard it has chosen to implement
2016-05-27T18:41:07Z wasamasa: in rare cases, it could be more than one
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2016-05-27T18:41:46Z scheme90: i mean i just got it from here: http://www.scheme.com/download/#sec:petitechezscheme
2016-05-27T18:42:11Z wasamasa: so, r6rs
2016-05-27T18:42:20Z scheme90: i see
2016-05-27T18:42:41Z wasamasa: anyway, the definition of a lambda shouldn't have changed at all between these
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2016-05-27T18:45:21Z wasamasa: so, judging from section 7.1.3, a lambda is a list made of a lambda symbol, formals and a body
2016-05-27T18:45:58Z C-Keen: re
2016-05-27T18:46:20Z gnomon: re: your email
2016-05-27T18:47:12Z gnomon: re: your brains
2016-05-27T18:49:55Z groovy2shoes: scheme90, wasamasa:  most implementations also accept extensions of the standard syntax
2016-05-27T18:50:12Z C-Keen: dsssl
2016-05-27T18:50:34Z gnomon: Vin Dsssl
2016-05-27T18:50:39Z C-Keen: still (lambda () x) is perfectly valid
2016-05-27T18:50:55Z C-Keen: scheme90: that's called a "thunk"
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2016-05-27T18:53:51Z groovy2shoes: scheme90, yes, that's valid syntax, as is (lambda x x)
2016-05-27T18:54:42Z scheme90: okay so ive been reading the report
2016-05-27T18:54:53Z groovy2shoes: scheme90, the formal syntax is (lambda <formals> <body>), where <formals> is one of: (<variable> ...), <variable>, or (variable ... . <variable>)
2016-05-27T18:55:07Z groovy2shoes: and <body> is zero or more definitions followed by one or more expression
2016-05-27T18:55:15Z scheme90: so i've modified my lambda formals syntax but it's still giving me #f for (lambda () x)
2016-05-27T18:55:28Z scheme90: if you have 2 mins to spare, do you think you can spot what's wrong? http://pastebin.com/eXYCFUR4
2016-05-27T18:56:58Z groovy2shoes: scheme90, what are you expecting to pass into this?
2016-05-27T18:57:31Z scheme90: a lambda expression, e.g. (lambda-syntax-checker (lambda () x))
2016-05-27T18:57:34Z scheme90: and that should display #t
2016-05-27T18:58:31Z groovy2shoes: (define (valid-lambda-expression? form) (and (eq? (car form) 'lambda) (valid-formals? (cadr form)) (not (null? (cddr form))))   ; this will get you close
2016-05-27T18:59:45Z groovy2shoes: where:  (define (valid-formals? form) (or (symbol? form) (and (pair? form) (all symbol? form))))
2016-05-27T19:00:59Z groovy2shoes: (define (all pred xs) (null? (filter (lambda (x) (not (pred x))) xs)))
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2016-05-27T19:02:42Z groovy2shoes: scheme90, can't tell you precisely what's wrong with your code without the definitions of the transitive closure of all the functions it uses...
2016-05-27T19:08:54Z scheme90: here I've added them, you can check it out if you have time while I try a new implementation based on what you just showed me: http://pastebin.com/yh3rwqaP
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