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2016-02-25T16:55:53Z eli: ecraven: OK, TBH, your blurb made me I actually think that they've implemented a good system, but then I searched it, and found two ffis, both are pretty lame.
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2016-02-25T18:24:01Z BW^-: are there any nice syntaxes for inlining hashtables in sexps?
2016-02-25T18:27:34Z wasamasa: I suspect that's implementation-specific
2016-02-25T18:28:21Z BW^-: of course
2016-02-25T18:28:28Z BW^-: wasamasa: but what would examples of syntaxes be?
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2016-02-25T18:30:55Z wasamasa: apparently chicken doesn't come with such a syntax out of the box
2016-02-25T18:31:34Z wasamasa: I think I've seen a CL tutorial on reader macros that used hash tables as example
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2016-02-25T18:36:50Z wasamasa: ah, there it is: http://frank.kank.net/essays/hash.html
2016-02-25T18:38:27Z BW^-: mhm
2016-02-25T18:38:38Z wasamasa: the syntax reminds me of clojure
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2016-02-25T18:39:00Z BW^-: wasamasa: wait, so what's the actual inlined hashtable syntax??
2016-02-25T18:39:28Z jackdaniel: here is some other fancy example: https://gist.github.com/chaitanyagupta/9324402
2016-02-25T18:40:43Z wasamasa: BW^-: {:key value}
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2016-02-25T18:46:18Z davexunit: you probably just want an alist
2016-02-25T18:47:23Z davexunit: which will provide faster lookup on small data sets and is persistent.
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2016-02-25T19:52:29Z BW^-: wasamasa> that\s just a single element , how describe 2,3,4-_
2016-02-25T19:52:50Z wasamasa: BW^-: what exactly is that supposed to be?
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2016-02-25T20:15:13Z jcowan: BW^-:  There is lexical syntax in SRFI 125, you might want to look there:  http://srfi.schemers.org/srfi-125/srfi-125.html
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2016-02-25T20:21:33Z taylan: jcowan: I think you meant SRFI 126, or does 125 have lexical syntax too now? :)
2016-02-25T20:23:21Z jcowan: sorry, yes, 126
2016-02-25T20:24:11Z jcowan: IMO piecemeal solutions to the lexical syntax problems are going to lead to a mess: lexical syntax is a mess already
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2016-02-25T20:39:20Z BW^-: http://srfi.schemers.org/srfi-126/srfi-126.html
2016-02-25T20:39:33Z BW^-: jcowan,taylan: does it describe a syntax for inlining a table within a sexp?
2016-02-25T20:40:14Z taylan: BW^-: see section "external representation"
2016-02-25T20:40:37Z taylan: BW^-: but so far I only implemented that for Guile
2016-02-25T20:41:30Z taylan: well, and Racket happens to support it, but then it doesn't really support R7RS yet
2016-02-25T20:41:36Z BW^-: ok
2016-02-25T20:41:40Z BW^-: taylan: thanks!
2016-02-25T20:41:44Z taylan: np
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2016-02-25T21:06:06Z jcowan: taylan: And it never will, by all reports
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2016-02-25T23:39:35Z n_blownapart: hi back groveling. I hope that someone could help me diagram this (same) program so I can understand how it works. I do get the good-enough? and improve functions. thanks : https://www.refheap.com/115209
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