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2014-12-08T08:09:26Z chitofan: is it possible to write a function that would give me something like (define (find-params object)   (find-object-params))?
2014-12-08T08:09:33Z chitofan: if i pass an object called circle, the function will call (find-circle-params ..)
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2014-12-08T08:49:10Z taylanub: chitofan: a procedural macro could do something like that, but you can probable design your code in a way it's simpler
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2014-12-08T08:57:40Z chitofan: taylanub: what's a way i could simplify my code?
2014-12-08T08:57:55Z chitofan: http://stackoverflow.com/questions/27352550/scheme-racket-extensible-functions
2014-12-08T08:57:55Z rudybot: http://tinyurl.com/qcd8tyd
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2014-12-08T09:01:15Z taylanub: I'm having a hard time understanding your code/intent
2014-12-08T09:02:55Z chitofan: taylanub: different objects -> different way of accessing the same type of parameters
2014-12-08T09:03:26Z chitofan: if possible i don't want to create a function for handling each case of object
2014-12-08T09:03:38Z ecraven: why not use racket's class system?
2014-12-08T09:04:29Z taylanub: I particularly don't understand what those numbers are supposed to be.  apart from that, why use the same struct type for different types of objects?
2014-12-08T09:04:54Z chitofan: it's a struct for simple geometric shapes
2014-12-08T09:05:05Z chitofan: or is it a bad idea to lump it into one struct?
2014-12-08T09:05:16Z chitofan: ecraven: will look at the doc for that, thanks
2014-12-08T09:05:30Z ecraven: chitofan: that depends on what they are, and what you want to achieve :)
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2014-12-08T09:19:19Z taylanub: is it so that you need all geometric shapes to be of a united type, yet have different sub-types?  i.e. you want a class hierarchy?
2014-12-08T09:20:09Z taylanub: chitofan: ^ if so, you might want to just use Racket's OOP system I guess
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2014-12-08T09:25:43Z chitofan: where might i look for examples of a simple OOP system implemented in racket?
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2014-12-08T11:41:58Z nilg: hi, how to get the path of the current file being executed?
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2014-12-08T11:43:21Z nilg: I tried http://tinyurl.com/otymsuw but it doesn't work (doesn't know that function)
2014-12-08T11:43:31Z taylanub: nilg: standard Scheme has no concept of a current file being executed.  there might be a way depending on the implementation you're using.
2014-12-08T11:43:57Z taylanub: seems like you're using Racket.  you might want to ask in #racket.
2014-12-08T11:44:33Z taylanub: actually that looks like some old PLT documentation.  are you using an up-to-date Racket version?
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2014-12-08T11:45:41Z nilg: neither PLT
2014-12-08T11:46:31Z nilg: I'm not proficient in scheme, just trying to fix something broken written by someone else
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2014-12-08T11:48:18Z taylanub: you'll need to know what implementation the code is written for, because Scheme standardization more or less sucks and nobody writes standards-compliant libraries.  (things are somewhat changing very recently but there's 40 years of history of minimal standards and diverging implementations)
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2014-12-08T11:50:28Z nilg: taylanub: it is guile
2014-12-08T11:50:39Z taylanub: aha
2014-12-08T11:50:57Z nilg: for glue scheme code to some C++ program to easily build stuff on top of it
2014-12-08T11:51:21Z nilg: I thought scheme is pretty much equal to guile
2014-12-08T11:51:21Z taylanub: then the next problem is most likely going to be that it was written for 1.8 and not 2.0 :(
2014-12-08T11:51:48Z taylanub: nilg: nope, Scheme is the mother-language of dozens of implementations  (about half a dozen of them fairly credible implementations)
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2014-12-08T11:52:15Z taylanub: and all of them diverge in many ways, sadly.
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2014-12-08T11:52:27Z nilg: it's written for guile 2.0
2014-12-08T11:52:38Z taylanub: oh, then it's fairly recent code.  that's cool.
2014-12-08T11:52:43Z taylanub: there's #guile.  might want to continue there.
2014-12-08T11:52:51Z nilg: cool, thanks!
2014-12-08T11:52:55Z taylanub: :)
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2014-12-08T16:39:36Z theseb: help! Did I find a bug in Paul Graham's simple implementation of eval?.....here is CL eval code.. http://ep.yimg.com/ty/cdn/paulgraham/jmc.lisp ....note 3rd line of eval function
2014-12-08T16:39:49Z theseb: ((atom e) (assoc. e a))
2014-12-08T16:40:00Z theseb: is he assuming all atoms are vars??!?!
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2014-12-08T16:50:35Z taylanub: theseb: calm down
2014-12-08T16:50:48Z taylanub: you probably meant symbols when you said vars.
2014-12-08T16:50:57Z taylanub: atom usually means not-pair.
2014-12-08T16:51:05Z taylanub: 'assoc' works with any object, not just symbols.
2014-12-08T16:52:33Z theseb: taylanub: yes but PG handles all atoms by finding them in the environment called a
2014-12-08T16:52:57Z theseb: taylanub: i think i got it now...he's assuming all strings and numbers will be QUOTED
2014-12-08T16:53:10Z taylanub: strings and numbers are self-quoting
2014-12-08T16:53:17Z theseb: taylanub: hence in his primitive eval you'll never eval a naked string or number
2014-12-08T16:53:42Z theseb: taylanub: yes i know..but technically afaik he would need to detect if it was a string or number to handle those differently than vars
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2014-12-08T17:00:05Z taylanub: oh, I see what you mean
2014-12-08T17:00:53Z taylanub: theseb: so the string "foo" (instead of the form (quote "foo")) will cause an error, although you can (define "foo" blahblah) ?
2014-12-08T17:01:00Z taylanub: that seems bad
2014-12-08T17:01:04Z taylanub: I haven't checked the code though
2014-12-08T17:01:14Z taylanub: (and gotta get back to work)
2014-12-08T17:01:49Z theseb: k thanks for hlep
2014-12-08T17:01:52Z theseb: help even
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2014-12-08T20:09:25Z alexander-01: I'm trying to learn about ports
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2014-12-08T20:13:07Z alexander-01: but I need some concrete examples of how they work in scheme .. can anyone point me in the right direction I have been looking online for a couple of days now .. I can open a port using (open-input-file "/blah") but dont know how to close it .. any hel[ appreciated
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2014-12-08T20:22:09Z Riastradh: close-input-port
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2014-12-08T20:49:58Z alexander-01: Riastradh: can you give an example I have tried lots of different options using close-input-port
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2014-12-08T21:41:34Z turbofail: assuming /tmp/foo.txt exists, (define my-port (open-input-file "/tmp/foo.txt")) (define my-data (read my-port)) (close-input-port my-port)
2014-12-08T21:43:35Z turbofail: or if you don't want to keep track of closing it yourself, you can use (call-with-input-file "/tmp/foo.txt" (lambda (port) (read port)))
2014-12-08T21:45:08Z alexander-01: turbofail: thanks
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