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2014-10-27T04:46:55Z blivande: hi, I have a problem I don't understand. I use a macosx here and I downloaded the dmg from http://www.gnu.org/software/mit-scheme/, but as soon as I launch it it crashes and disappears without warning
2014-10-27T04:47:14Z blivande: the page says it's compiled on osx 10.9, I use 10.9.5
2014-10-27T04:47:21Z blivande: md5 checksum's good too
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2014-10-27T04:59:52Z pjb: blivande: let my try it.
2014-10-27T05:00:50Z pjb: Did you download the 64-bit or the 32-bit version? Does it match your processor?
2014-10-27T05:01:04Z pjb downloading…
2014-10-27T05:02:54Z blivande: 64-bit
2014-10-27T05:02:57Z blivande: yep
2014-10-27T05:06:54Z pjb: It is a X11 application.
2014-10-27T05:07:19Z pjb: Apparently, you need to have Xquartz running, and to launch it with a DISPLAY environment variable set correctly.
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2014-10-27T05:08:04Z blivande: oh, I see
2014-10-27T05:08:09Z blivande: thanks, I'll try that now
2014-10-27T05:08:57Z pjb: DISPLAY=:0.0 open /Applications/MIT\:GNU\ Scheme.app
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2014-10-27T05:51:21Z blivande: it worked!
2014-10-27T05:51:28Z blivande: many thanks pjb
2014-10-27T05:53:28Z pjb: Good.
2014-10-27T05:53:41Z pjb: Do you know emacs?
2014-10-27T05:54:20Z blivande: only the basics
2014-10-27T05:54:35Z pjb: Edwin is an emacs-like implemented in scheme.  If you know emacs, you won't be homesick.
2014-10-27T05:54:56Z pjb: But there are some differences of course, so don't be surprised.
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2014-10-27T08:42:21Z taylanub: hrm.  R7RS has parts of SRFI-13 .. I need to know whether there's any changes to the API.  also SRFI-13's extended versions of R5RS procedures could be in R7RS.  I'll need to do some digging :(
2014-10-27T08:43:13Z taylanub: I wish SRFI came with test suites.
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2014-10-27T09:00:03Z taylanub: I guess if a system strictly does ahead-of-time expansion of libraries, then there would be no way to change the default values for such options, but so long as the system can be made to recompile/reload a library, or doesn't expand it before the first time it's loaded, there's no reason it wouldn't work.
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2014-10-27T23:22:46Z s41t: Hello. May someone write me a function that checks if the elements of any list is equal or not? If it is equal, #t is returned. Else #f
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2014-10-27T23:24:12Z cojy: s41t: what if the elements are in a different order
2014-10-27T23:26:29Z s41t: I hope this answers your question. http://pastebin.com/PE2GB2n9
2014-10-27T23:26:47Z s41t: ^ cojy
2014-10-27T23:28:37Z cojy: s41t: do you know what equal? does?
2014-10-27T23:29:24Z cojy: and if you do, the next question is: do you know what apply does?
2014-10-27T23:32:45Z s41t: Hi. I am sorry. I do know what equal? does. I heard that lambda would be useful for this question, but I have not learned lambda. I am overwhelmed with other activities right now. I would really appreciate it if you could just answer the question for me. Note: I do not know what apply does.
2014-10-27T23:33:22Z s41t: I have been trying to solve this question for a long time. My true test cases always end up #f.
2014-10-27T23:35:53Z cojy: s41t: it's pretty direct if you answered yes/no :|
2014-10-27T23:36:07Z cojy: rudybot: (+ 1 1)
2014-10-27T23:36:09Z rudybot: cojy: your sandbox is ready
2014-10-27T23:36:09Z rudybot: cojy: ; Value: 2
2014-10-27T23:36:15Z cojy: rudybot: (apply + '(1 1))
2014-10-27T23:36:15Z rudybot: cojy: ; Value: 2
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2014-10-27T23:36:43Z cojy: s41t: does that help?
2014-10-27T23:37:15Z s41t: No not really. Doesn't the ' make the (1 1) not evaluated?
2014-10-27T23:37:27Z cojy: well if you see in your pastebin
2014-10-27T23:37:32Z cojy: its just making it a list
2014-10-27T23:37:45Z cojy: rudybot: (apply + (list 1 1))
2014-10-27T23:37:45Z rudybot: cojy: ; Value: 2
2014-10-27T23:37:46Z s41t: Well, I assume apply + the elements in the list?
2014-10-27T23:37:48Z cojy: exact same as that
2014-10-27T23:38:12Z cojy: yea you can apply a function to a list of arguments
2014-10-27T23:38:44Z cojy: (apply equal? '(1 1 1 1))
2014-10-27T23:39:27Z cojy: you could also do it with a recursive loop or a fold
2014-10-27T23:39:41Z s41t: cojy, May you please make this function recursive with cdr and car? The recursive part should be (allequal? (cdr l)). Sorry for the inconvenience.
2014-10-27T23:40:09Z cojy: hmm actually have to equal? only takes 2 args sorry about that
2014-10-27T23:40:50Z s41t: No problem. I am glad you are helping me.
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2014-10-27T23:46:14Z cojy: rudybot: (define (loop f r) (if (null? r) #t (and (my-test f (car r)) (loop f (cdr r)))))
2014-10-27T23:46:14Z rudybot: cojy: Done.
2014-10-27T23:46:21Z cojy: thats about what the inner loop would look like
2014-10-27T23:46:36Z cojy: need to give it your own test and make a function to start it
2014-10-27T23:52:23Z s41t: cojy, I am sorry for the inconvenience. Please make the function allequal? with one variable, which is the list.
2014-10-27T23:53:03Z cojy: i would feel too bad about giving a full solution to something like this sorry
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2014-10-27T23:59:39Z s41t: cojy, Alright no problem. I am not as busy right now. I will post my code soon. May you help me look it over?