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I think I may write a tutorial on how to extend CHICKEN with eggs. 2014-10-14T04:26:38Z sheilong quit (Quit: Konversation terminated!) 2014-10-14T04:27:37Z offby1 struggles mightily not to make the obvious joke 2014-10-14T04:27:38Z emma joined #scheme 2014-10-14T04:28:30Z zacts: offby1: you have a dirty mind 2014-10-14T04:34:50Z offby1: I do, but that has nothing to do with the joke I'm not making. 2014-10-14T04:36:35Z zacts: oh, ok 2014-10-14T04:36:54Z zacts: is your joke in reference to SICP, or CHICKEN? 2014-10-14T04:37:01Z zacts: perhaps it is I with the dirty mind 2014-10-14T04:38:01Z offby1: it rather involved a priority evaluation 2014-10-14T04:38:09Z offby1: or shall we say precedence 2014-10-14T04:38:18Z offby1: or even an ordering. 2014-10-14T04:38:30Z offby1: a) chicken->egg 2014-10-14T04:38:34Z offby1: b) egg->chicken 2014-10-14T04:38:56Z zacts: oh I see 2014-10-14T04:39:10Z zacts: I by far have a more dirty mind than you, you are just plain insane offby1. 2014-10-14T04:39:34Z zacts: that is too much like o*dipal rex 2014-10-14T04:39:40Z offby1: the word I'd have used is "corny" 2014-10-14T04:40:53Z weinholt quit (Ping timeout: 260 seconds) 2014-10-14T04:40:56Z zacts: ok, well. back to normal #scheme chatter.. 2014-10-14T04:48:14Z alezost joined #scheme 2014-10-14T04:52:13Z aranhoide joined #scheme 2014-10-14T04:57:05Z phipes joined #scheme 2014-10-14T05:00:21Z frkout_ joined #scheme 2014-10-14T05:01:58Z oleo__ quit (Quit: Verlassend) 2014-10-14T05:03:04Z weinholt joined #scheme 2014-10-14T05:04:14Z frkout quit (Ping timeout: 244 seconds) 2014-10-14T05:08:08Z chandan joined #scheme 2014-10-14T05:11:58Z chandan: Hello all, I run Linux on my computer. I have started reading sicp and would like to know which scheme interpretor would be the best choice to run the programs listed in the book. I asked this question on #emacs. 'racket' and 'mit scheme' were recommended. 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It'd be fine if they said "We know MIT scheme version 7.0 works", and it'd be fine if that information got a bit outdated. 2014-10-14T18:01:02Z offby1: just so that students have a one-stop-shopping way of finding that information -- it doesn't need to be brand-spanking uptodate. 2014-10-14T18:02:31Z offby1: andyjpb: not really, no 2014-10-14T18:03:05Z offby1: andyjpb: true, if you make it all the way through, you'll have done something like that. But the first bits simply show you scheme code, and tell you what it's doing; it'd clearly be useful to be able to try out those snippets as youread 2014-10-14T18:03:18Z pjdelport: offby1: Well, i mean platform as in at least say Windows, Linux, and Mac OS X, which might have different recommendations. 2014-10-14T18:03:33Z superjudge quit (Ping timeout: 260 seconds) 2014-10-14T18:03:33Z dan64 quit (Ping timeout: 260 seconds) 2014-10-14T18:03:50Z offby1: I'd want the publisher to go to that much effort, yes. 2014-10-14T18:03:57Z offby1: Perhaps the stackoverflow idea would work. 2014-10-14T18:04:01Z ggherdov quit (Ping timeout: 260 seconds) 2014-10-14T18:04:02Z offby1 isn't as skeptical as gnomon 2014-10-14T18:04:41Z offby1: just a pointer to http://stackoverflow.com/questions/260685/what-is-the-best-scheme-implementation-for-working-through-sicp might suffice 2014-10-14T18:04:41Z rudybot: http://tinyurl.com/34ljyhl 2014-10-14T18:04:42Z gnomon is particularly curmudgeonly, it is known 2014-10-14T18:05:23Z vanila: yo when is jcowan coming on here 2014-10-14T18:05:38Z gnomon: vanila, whenever jcowan feels like it. 2014-10-14T18:05:44Z Natch left #scheme 2014-10-14T18:05:49Z superjudge_ joined #scheme 2014-10-14T18:05:49Z Natch joined #scheme 2014-10-14T18:05:53Z ec quit (Ping timeout: 260 seconds) 2014-10-14T18:06:05Z hiroakip joined #scheme 2014-10-14T18:06:14Z dan64 joined #scheme 2014-10-14T18:06:36Z offby1 challenges gnomon to a grunt-off 2014-10-14T18:06:48Z offby1: although I reserve the right to use "feh" instead as I see fit 2014-10-14T18:07:09Z ggherdov joined #scheme 2014-10-14T18:07:41Z ec joined #scheme 2014-10-14T18:08:03Z andyjpb: offby1: you're right. 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