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I rarely write do loops so this should print out 56789 right? (do ((i 5 (1+ i))) (> i 9) (display i)) 04:07:37 I get no output and the function returns 9 04:08:33 ok, macro - but I get 9 and no output is my whinge 04:13:31 bhrgunatha [~chatzilla@125-231-86-170.dynamic.hinet.net] has joined #scheme 04:15:05 -!- bhrgunatha [~chatzilla@125-231-86-170.dynamic.hinet.net] has quit [Client Quit] 04:20:38 Ok, so my mistake is the termination condition. Doh! 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Did it always have hygenic macros then? 16:40:33 no 16:40:59 macros were just not standard till r5rs 16:41:23 Well, they were in the R4RS, as an optional appendix. 16:41:51 (They were also in the original report on Scheme, but that was just a tech report about a new toy more than any sort of `standard'.) 16:42:33 rudybot: shiny shiny 16:42:38 ijp: but if it aint got shiny stuff it's boring :( 16:43:31 jewel [~jewel@105-236-210-247.access.mtnbusiness.co.za] has joined #scheme 16:43:54 So it wasn't as if they started with raw macros and then decided they were bad? 16:44:17 That is how macros started in the Scheme world, but they were never standardized as such. 16:44:18 Eh? 16:45:42 Ok. that's interesting. 16:48:47 WarWeasle: well, hygiene problems have been known for longer than scheme has been around 16:49:42 in his thesis on Rabbit, guy steele writes a few of the macros in slightly roundabout fashion to avoid capture 16:50:00 -!- WarWeasle is now known as WarWeasle_bbib 16:50:52 -!- 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have you tried Paredit in Emacs, yet ? 21:53:12 -!- mrowe_away is now known as mrowe 21:58:40 fightback [~nobody@34-8.194-178.cust.bluewin.ch] has joined #scheme 22:03:18 da4c30ff__ [~da4c30ff@c18.adsl.tnnet.fi] has joined #scheme 22:06:25 zajn [~zajn@108.205.50.54] has joined #scheme 22:07:37 -!- da4c30ff__ [~da4c30ff@c18.adsl.tnnet.fi] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 22:11:01 -!- zajn [~zajn@108.205.50.54] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 22:11:27 the rabbit goes roundabout the hole to not be captured by the wold 22:11:29 w o l f 22:12:08 -!- arubin [~arubin@99-114-192-172.lightspeed.cicril.sbcglobal.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 22:12:54 arubin [~arubin@99-114-192-172.lightspeed.cicril.sbcglobal.net] has joined #scheme 22:13:12 -!- Okasu [~1@unaffiliated/okasu] has quit [Quit: leaving] 22:14:19 -!- whmark [~user@2602:301:7767:1c90:224:1ff:fe62:eb7c] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 22:15:02 -!- tupi [~user@189.60.13.234] has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 22:15:13 -!- aap_ [~aap@85.183.44.54] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 22:19:40 hey schemers. wanted to share a little screencast I made to show off my game engine that I'm writing in Guile. http://dthompson.us/videos/guile-2d-frp-demo.webm 22:25:52 -!- add^_ [~user@m176-70-197-33.cust.tele2.se] has quit [Quit: ERC Version 5.3 (IRC client for Emacs)] 22:26:59 -!- przl [~przlrkt@p5DD15F96.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 22:29:20 -!- Tuplanolla [~Put-on-la@dsl-jklbrasgw2-54f8aa-52.dhcp.inet.fi] has left #scheme 22:30:59 -!- amgarching [~amgarchin@p4FD60080.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [Quit: Konversation terminated!] 22:34:18 duggiefresh [~Icedove@c-24-60-1-249.hsd1.ma.comcast.net] has joined #scheme 22:37:05 amgarching [~amgarchin@p4FD60080.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #scheme 22:40:20 davexunit: very nice! 22:40:57 thanks civodul 22:41:53 -!- kuribas [~user@d54C54CAC.access.telenet.be] has quit [Quit: ERC Version 5.3 (IRC client for Emacs)] 22:41:57 I've shared it in a number of places now and I'm getting very positive feedback. good motivation to continue. 22:42:06 -!- Fare [hnPwC@cpe-72-229-109-116.nyc.res.rr.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 22:50:01 -!- fightback [~nobody@34-8.194-178.cust.bluewin.ch] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 22:51:07 Fare [ccK@cpe-72-229-109-116.nyc.res.rr.com] has joined #scheme 22:57:19 alexei [~amgarchin@p4FD60080.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #scheme 22:57:19 -!- amgarching [~amgarchin@p4FD60080.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [Quit: Konversation terminated!] 23:03:44 -!- duggiefresh [~Icedove@c-24-60-1-249.hsd1.ma.comcast.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 23:04:44 zajn [~zajn@2607:f140:400:b003:e4ac:ae0f:4695:2dd6] has joined #scheme 23:06:02 tl;dw 23:06:04 *offby1* loosens his collar with his index finger 23:17:32 machindo [~machindo@host86-182-62-253.range86-182.btcentralplus.com] has joined #scheme 23:18:27 -!- civodul [~user@reverse-83.fdn.fr] has quit 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Does it have template functionality like I mentioned? 23:25:16 -!- superjudge [uid16781@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-aomvhaanfcuhqghn] has quit [Quit: Connection closed for inactivity] 23:25:29 -!- mrowe is now known as mrowe_away 23:25:34 The version I'm using (fetched in 2010) does not it seems. 23:25:37 snits [~snits@174-17-6-209.phnx.qwest.net] has joined #scheme 23:26:09 suggests `paredit-forward-slurp-sexp' could be useful 23:26:16 C-x ( ( l a m b d a SPC ( ) SPC C-x ) 23:26:57 Then `C-x e' will insert what you want, and `C-right' or `C-)' or `M-x paredit-forward-slurp-sexp RET' will envelop the next form in your shiny new lambda. 23:32:23 duggiefresh [~Icedove@c-24-60-1-249.hsd1.ma.comcast.net] has joined #scheme 23:35:47 -!- machindo [~machindo@host86-182-62-253.range86-182.btcentralplus.com] has quit [Quit: machindo] 23:53:05 alexei_ [~amgarchin@p4FD60080.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #scheme 23:53:07 -!- alexei [~amgarchin@p4FD60080.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [Quit: Konversation terminated!] 23:53:23 -!- duggiefresh [~Icedove@c-24-60-1-249.hsd1.ma.comcast.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 23:53:46 duggiefresh [~Icedove@c-24-60-1-249.hsd1.ma.comcast.net] has joined #scheme