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on thursday. unfortunately, I'm using windows 8.1, and there does not seem to be much information about what the best scheme interpreters for such an OS are 07:36:52 frustrated, I just sort of picked one, scheme 48 07:37:29 but since I am not very hardcore I'd like to have a graphical interface and to be able to copy and paste to and from the interpreter 07:39:39 Grognor: i just looked it up and Racket seems to be good choice for you 07:39:43 ezio [~ezio@CPE0011d8ed356c-CM78cd8ecce905.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com] has joined #scheme 07:39:44 -!- ezio [~ezio@CPE0011d8ed356c-CM78cd8ecce905.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com] has quit [Changing host] 07:39:44 ezio [~ezio@unaffiliated/ezio] has joined #scheme 07:40:07 It can run in strict scheme mode which should be good for SICP 07:42:17 scoofy [~scoofy@catv-89-135-80-2.catv.broadband.hu] has joined #scheme 07:44:29 it looks complicated and scary, especially for neophytes such as me 07:45:28 przl [~przlrkt@p57923591.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined 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ZZZzzz] 13:57:59 kuribas [~user@d54C54CAC.access.telenet.be] has joined #scheme 14:02:31 How does one convert say #'(let ((a b) (c d)) e) into a list of syntax objects? 14:02:40 In r6 compliant code 14:03:08 syntax->datum converts it into a list of symbols and lists containing symbols. 14:03:56 yacks [~py@103.6.159.103] has joined #scheme 14:10:55 Hmm, I suppose you can just pattern match with syntax case and cons it. 14:11:03 So Haskell 14:15:04 langmartin [~langmarti@host-68-169-154-130.WISOLT2.epbfi.com] has joined #scheme 14:15:14 -!- langmartin [~langmarti@host-68-169-154-130.WISOLT2.epbfi.com] has quit [Client Quit] 14:18:13 -!- jewel [~jewel@105-237-68-160.access.mtnbusiness.co.za] has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 14:21:36 -!- b4283 [~b4283@36-238-227-196.dynamic-ip.hinet.net] has quit [Quit: ] 14:22:24 -!- Kuollutrunkkau5 [~nevzets@unaffiliated/nevzets] has left #scheme 14:28:38 -!- ft [~ft@149.201.42.118] has quit [Quit: WeeChat 0.4.3-rc1] 14:30:15 jmd 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[Remote host closed the connection] 16:09:32 duggiefresh [~duggiefre@64.119.141.126] has joined #scheme 16:09:33 jeapostrophe [~jay@racket/jeapostrophe] has joined #scheme 16:10:18 oleo [~oleo@xdsl-87-78-78-198.netcologne.de] has joined #scheme 16:13:02 ezio [~ezio@unaffiliated/ezio] has joined #scheme 16:14:27 Kuollutrunkkau5 [~nevzets@unaffiliated/nevzets] has joined #scheme 16:14:53 Is there a way for the syntax-case macro system to detect how many levels up a variable was bound? 16:15:00 Nizumzen [~Nizumzen@cpc1-reig5-2-0-cust251.6-3.cable.virginm.net] has joined #scheme 16:15:42 Say one has (let* ((x 1)) ((y 2)) ) is there any way for this macro to detect that x is bound 1 level up and y is bound 0 levels up? 16:15:58 alexei [~amgarchin@p4FD61E1D.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #scheme 16:17:27 -!- langmartin [~langmarti@host-68-169-175-226.WISOLT2.epbfi.com] has quit [Quit: sleep] 16:20:05 langmartin [~langmarti@host-68-169-175-226.WISOLT2.epbfi.com] has joined #scheme 16:21:34 No. What would you need this for? 16:21:45 SirDayBat [holttan1@gateway/shell/tkk.fi/x-raefengoxdxbxrkt] has joined #scheme 16:24:35 ecraven, ehh, basically, I want a form which can only appear in definition context, if the binding does not yet exist in the innnermost scope it has to simply introduce it with define, if it does exist it has to set it to something else. 16:24:53 Basically I want a (shadow name val) form which shadows a binding made above it. 16:25:15 so you want (let ((x 5)) (shadow x 3) x) which returns 3? 16:25:29 Yeah 16:25:56 (let ((x 5)) (set! x 3) x) would work :) 16:25:57 Basically shadow would be an alternative to let* 16:26:03 How define is an alternative to letrec 16:26:10 Yeah, but set! can appear everywhere. 16:26:29 And say you have (let ((y 5) (set! x 3) x) 16:26:41 You just set! something from an outer scope, in that case it has to introduce a new binding. 16:26:54 As far as I know, there's no way (with plain macros without implementation-specific magic) to find out whether a macro is being expanded in a definition context 16:27:16 -!- tenq|away is now known as tenq 16:27:20 I think inner define behaves like this, no? 16:27:31 No, inner define behaves like letrec 16:27:34 Which can cause problems 16:27:43 There is definitely no way that in (begin (shadow x 5) x) the SHADOW form could introduce a binding that influences the return expression X 16:27:56 A lexical binding at least 16:28:00 rudybot: (let ((x '(1 2))) (define x (cons 0 x)) x) 16:28:02 Kuollutrunkkau5: your sandbox is ready 16:28:02 Kuollutrunkkau5: ; Value: '(0 . #) 16:28:23 Kuollutrunkkau5: indeed 16:28:29 -!- oleo [~oleo@xdsl-87-78-78-198.netcologne.de] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 16:28:37 define ... has this property though. 16:28:50 It seems unelegant to me, surely you should be able to roll your own variant of define? 16:29:07 Only using implementation-specific code or expanding to DEFINE yourself 16:29:24 inner define is pretty ugly indeed 16:29:42 Well, you can basically redefine lambda and let etc to get the desired result. 16:29:43 I would not really want to use your proposed shadow thing either 16:29:56 Why not? 16:30:06 It's easier to add and remove lines than it is with let*, it basically does the same. 16:30:08 too side-effecty 16:30:14 It's not a side effect. 16:30:23 werebutt [~buttbutt@46.165.251.66] has joined #scheme 16:30:24 yeah not really but kind of :-) 16:30:25 -!- werebutt [~buttbutt@46.165.251.66] has left #scheme 16:30:32 Well, it's a uniqueness type. 16:31:17 THere is an intersection of mutation and simply shadowing which is aequivalent, often called substructural assignemnt, my hypothetical shadow form guarantees the assignment happens in a substructural way. 16:31:26 And therefore could theoretically also be achieved simply by shadowing. 16:31:46 anyway, it obscures the extent of a binding a bit 16:31:53 DerGuteMoritz: not just a bit :) 16:31:57 heh 16:32:19 Why? 16:32:24 OCaml has this, it's called let there. 16:32:26 let style binding is one of the reasons I like lisps 16:32:39 You can put multiple let's under each other, each creating a new block scope which extends to the end. 16:32:40 because you immediately see the extent of a binding 16:32:50 Well, do you hate let* as well? 16:32:52 -!- yacks [~py@103.6.159.103] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 16:33:00 Kuollutrunkkau5: isn't that exactly like LET* 16:33:05 It is exactly the same. 16:33:12 Just as define is exactly the same as letrec 16:33:27 with LET*, you still easily see the scope of the bindings 16:33:38 oh so you only want to allow shadow as the first things in a scope? 16:33:53 It's the assymetry that bugs me, surely if letrec has a one form alternative, so should let and let*? 16:34:32 I think it would be nicer to get rid of the letrec alternative ;-) 16:34:38 I agree :) 16:34:44 so you see with shadow, if you have (let ((x 3)) (shadow x (+ x 1)) (shadow x (+ x 2)) x) the scope of shadow is up to the let block, just as with define. 16:35:06 Would you also feel people should use letrec at the top level? 16:35:23 Kuollutrunkkau5: the interactive one? that is something else entirely 16:35:29 No, not the interactive one. 16:35:33 THe top level of program source. 16:35:57 Not make functions with define any more but put one giant letrec around everything? 16:36:33 (define (f x) (* x x)) is just easier to read than (f (lambda (x) (* x x))) 16:36:47 And so is (shadow (f x) (* x x)) 16:36:59 Kuollutrunkkau5: I agree with the former, but not the latter :) 16:38:04 ecraven, well, it's the same principle, surely it's just because you aren't used to it yet? 16:38:06 MichaelRaskin [~MichaelRa@195.91.224.161] has joined #scheme 16:39:08 annodomini [~lambda@173-14-129-9-NewEngland.hfc.comcastbusiness.net] has joined #scheme 16:39:08 -!- annodomini [~lambda@173-14-129-9-NewEngland.hfc.comcastbusiness.net] has quit [Changing host] 16:39:08 annodomini [~lambda@wikipedia/lambda] has joined #scheme 16:39:25 module top levels usually don't have a body at all 16:39:33 i.e. only consist of definitions 16:40:01 so letrec would be annoying there and also, you want to export the defintions somehow so letrec alone wouldn't suffice 16:40:01 DerGuteMoritz, and what if you want to use shadow in that, define something in terms of something above. 16:40:08 Otherwise you get names ending with* and ** a lot. 16:40:25 anyway, no time to discuss this 16:40:33 happy hacking 16:41:22 -!- ezio [~ezio@unaffiliated/ezio] has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 16:43:08 Kuollutrunkkau5: I'd guess it is because there is no relevant context outside top-level DEFINE, but there definitely can be an arbitrary amount of relevant context around SHADOW 16:44:01 ecraven, well, in this extend shadow can also be used top-level, if you shadow a binding which does not exist yet it is the same as define. 16:44:20 define sort of does this in some cases, but not all, especially when working with lists 16:44:53 rudybot: (let ((x 3)) (define x (+ x 1)) (define x (+ 2 x)) x) 16:44:53 Kuollutrunkkau5: error: #:1:40: internal definition: duplicate binding name at: x in: (define-values (x) (+ 2 x)) 16:44:56 Ahh 16:45:01 Apparenty duplicates don't work 16:48:10 -!- Guest36542 [~ryu@119-230-11-119f1.osk3.eonet.ne.jp] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 16:51:14 Kuollutrunkkau5: I'm just saying personally I wouldn't want an expression that introduced bindings without actually lexically including the scoped expressions (with the exception of top-level) 16:52:59 -!- jeapostrophe [~jay@racket/jeapostrophe] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 16:53:16 ecraven, so you never use define in inner function definitions? 16:53:27 Like, you use letrec in that way? 16:53:41 Kuollutrunkkau5: almost never, only if I want to evaluate them on top-level to test them 16:53:43 but that's just me 16:54:07 I don't find the need to introduce recursive bindings very often it seems :) 16:54:17 Maybe more advanced Schemery will make me reconsider 16:55:42 Well, inner function definitions aren't visible at the top level. 16:55:48 But I use inner functions a lot personally. 16:55:50 Riastradh [~riastradh@fsf/member/riastradh] has joined #scheme 16:56:13 theseb [~cs@74.194.237.26] has joined #scheme 16:56:15 That's just style though, a lot of people map with anonymous functions, I like to just give them a name that is descriptive. 16:56:42 Kuollutrunkkau5: I use LAMBDA for mapping always exclusively if the function is only used once 16:58:06 -!- langmartin [~langmarti@host-68-169-175-226.WISOLT2.epbfi.com] has quit [Quit: sleep] 17:03:08 Hmm, well, I don't I guess, I give it an inner definition descriptive name. 17:03:52 I don't if it's a really simple thing like (lambda (x) (* x x)), but more complicated things I give names like string->natural-number 17:03:53 -!- alexei [~amgarchin@p4FD61E1D.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 17:04:05 Kuollutrunkkau5: you might want to ask Riastradh again about the feasibility of writing such a macro, Riastradh seems to know most things 17:04:24 Kuollutrunkkau5: those things I tend to move to top-level to keep them around for later use :) 17:07:28 Riastradh, pingpong 17:07:43 -!- tenq is now known as tenq|away 17:07:49 Yeah, I would do that too with string->natural, maybe that's a bad idea. 17:08:04 Say I would be implementing merge-sort, I would name it merge instead of using lambda. 17:08:05 alexei [~amgarchin@p4FD61E1D.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #scheme 17:08:11 merge isn't really a general purpose function 17:10:01 -!- civodul [~user@gateway/tor-sasl/civodul] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 17:13:27 juxovec [~juxovec@31.4.243.109] has joined #scheme 17:14:02 -!- cbsw [~cbsw@116.208.171.72] has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 17:15:01 oleo [~oleo@xdsl-87-78-78-198.netcologne.de] has joined #scheme 17:16:27 -!- Nizumzen [~Nizumzen@cpc1-reig5-2-0-cust251.6-3.cable.virginm.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 17:19:22 langmartin [~langmarti@host-68-169-175-226.WISOLT2.epbfi.com] has joined #scheme 17:21:16 I didn't realize there was such a disagreement on how to handle () in lisps 17:21:25 i just read a little of the religious wars 17:23:19 theseb, link? 17:23:26 I'malways in the mood to read religious wars. 17:23:38 Kuollutrunkkau5: even SICP mentions it 17:23:55 What does scp mention about it? 17:24:04 () in Scheme makes as much sense to me as () in C 17:24:10 It's a function call with no function and no arguments 17:24:10 Kuollutrunkkau5: just mentions how much ink has been spilt about literally nothing 17:24:29 The only thing I could see it do is be the same as (values), just maybe 17:24:45 Evaluating to the empty list makes no sense on any level. 17:24:59 Kuollutrunkkau5: if you see it as code then yes...a func call w/ no func or args makes no sense 17:25:16 Kuollutrunkkau5: if you see it as data...it may make a little more sense...but not if you think in terms of cons pairs 17:25:33 Kuollutrunkkau5: so i think the compromise of common lisp...iirc was to see it as just a special symbol 17:25:49 Kuollutrunkkau5: i.e. admit it is "special" in some way and treat it as an exception to the rules 17:26:02 in common lisp () even evals to itself without needing a quote 17:26:06 that's all i know 17:27:53 arubin [uid489@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-jqhrzjkhokzzoyfb] has joined #scheme 17:28:20 juxovec_ [~juxovec@155.Red-80-32-126.staticIP.rima-tde.net] has joined #scheme 17:28:35 ezio [~ezio@nexus-4.wireless.uwo.ca] has joined #scheme 17:28:35 -!- ezio [~ezio@nexus-4.wireless.uwo.ca] has quit [Changing host] 17:28:35 ezio [~ezio@unaffiliated/ezio] has joined #scheme 17:29:51 Nizumzen [~Nizumzen@cpc1-reig5-2-0-cust251.6-3.cable.virginm.net] has joined #scheme 17:30:58 -!- juxovec [~juxovec@31.4.243.109] has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 17:33:48 theseb: See A SHORT BALLAD on http://c2.com/cgi/wiki?LispSchemeDifferences 17:36:14 theseb: () doesn't eval to itself per se. () is read with the current #\( reader macro in the current readtable (referenced by CL:*READTABLE*). The standard reader macro in the standard readtable for #\( reads () as CL:NIL. But an implementation is free to put non standard reader macros in the default readtable. CL:NIL when evaluated does NOT eval to itself, implicitely. It is declared as a constant variable and it evaluates to 17:36:14 value bound to it, which happens to be CL:NIL itself, in conforming programs. 17:39:09 -!- juxovec_ [~juxovec@155.Red-80-32-126.staticIP.rima-tde.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 17:39:29 -!- ezio [~ezio@unaffiliated/ezio] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 17:42:28 juxovec [~juxovec@31.4.243.109] has joined #scheme 17:42:43 -!- ft [~ft@149.201.42.118] has quit [Quit: WeeChat 0.4.3-rc1] 17:44:53 -!- przl [~przlrkt@62.217.45.197] has quit [Quit: leaving] 17:45:03 przl [~przlrkt@62.217.45.197] has joined #scheme 17:45:03 -!- przl [~przlrkt@62.217.45.197] has quit [Client Quit] 17:45:33 ezio [~ezio@nexus-4.wireless.uwo.ca] has joined #scheme 17:45:43 -!- ezio [~ezio@nexus-4.wireless.uwo.ca] has quit [Changing host] 17:45:43 ezio [~ezio@unaffiliated/ezio] has joined #scheme 17:47:42 -!- pnkfelix [~pnkfelix@89.202.203.51] has quit [Quit: rcirc on GNU Emacs 24.3.1] 17:51:13 -!- tenq|away is now known as tenq 17:52:59 While trying to help the Guile/Emacs integration it angered me what a mess Elisp nil is. Is similar in CL AFAIK; it's false, a symbol, the empty list, and some kind of "constant" variable ... 17:53:14 sheilong [~sabayonus@unaffiliated/sheilong] has joined #scheme 17:53:32 Well it "just works" within Elisp so one can't really complain, it's only a mess when one tries to integrate it with a Scheme platform I guess. 17:56:41 -!- tenq is now known as tenq|away 18:00:55 -!- pjb [~t@AMontsouris-651-1-131-124.w90-46.abo.wanadoo.fr] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 18:01:27 pjb [~user@AMontsouris-651-1-131-124.w90-46.abo.wanadoo.fr] has joined #scheme 18:01:50 -!- pjb is now known as Guest40917 18:02:33 -!- Guest40917 is now known as pjb` 18:02:47 -!- pjb` is now known as pjb 18:02:57 bishu [~bishudas@76.178.144.102] has joined #scheme 18:03:52 -!- Nizumzen [~Nizumzen@cpc1-reig5-2-0-cust251.6-3.cable.virginm.net] has quit [Quit: KVIrc 4.2.0 Equilibrium http://www.kvirc.net/] 18:08:49 Hi. 18:09:01 joneshf-laptop [~joneshf@128.120.117.179] has joined #scheme 18:09:04 Kuollutrunkkau5, what's up? 18:09:56 Riastradh, ehh, hold on 18:10:11 https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/comp.lang.scheme/WJYgeNXL9M4 this is 18:11:47 File not in classpath roots: /topic/comp.lang.scheme/WJYgeNXL9M4 18:11:48 Error 404 18:11:54 ... 18:12:22 Huh, it just works for me if I click on it. 18:12:30 Oh well, I'll just pastebin the topic 18:12:43 I took out the `#!' in an attempt to read it without JavaScript. 18:12:53 It used to be that that would pretty reliably work. 18:12:59 Riastradh: http://hastebin.com/raw/wopehalasi 18:13:02 jeapostrophe [~jay@racket/jeapostrophe] has joined #scheme 18:13:18 Ah yes, abuse of the # 18:13:32 Use state.push instead to refresh pages without refreshing them 18:13:53 I assume by (define xs (cons x s)) you meant (define xs (cons x xs))? 18:14:42 Ehh, yes 18:14:59 No, I don't think there's a way for you to do that. 18:20:22 Riastradh, well, there is but you have to debind lambda 18:20:42 I've now made a form called scope, so that I can just do (scope (where x y) (shadow x z) x) 18:21:02 I'm not sure if it's possible to mutate syntactic definitions though 18:21:06 syntax-set! ftw. 18:21:56 -!- duggiefresh [~duggiefre@64.119.141.126] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 18:22:13 It's not. 18:22:18 Creating your own enclosure like that works, though. 18:22:20 duggiefresh [~duggiefre@64.119.141.126] has joined #scheme 18:23:36 Yeah, I'm using that now, it works. 18:23:40 Gotta run. 18:23:41 *poof* 18:23:44 Required some pretty low level syntax case ninjaing though 18:23:47 What is this magic 18:23:50 Where has he or she gone to. 18:27:22 pjb: thanks..printing short ballad now 18:28:03 -!- Riastradh [~riastradh@fsf/member/riastradh] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 18:29:55 -!- langmartin [~langmarti@host-68-169-175-226.WISOLT2.epbfi.com] has quit [Quit: sleep] 18:34:30 ft [~ft@dyn-46.183.96.49.relaix.net] has joined #scheme 18:40:07 jao [~jao@3.115.14.37.dynamic.jazztel.es] has joined #scheme 18:40:10 -!- 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