00:27:15 -!- tenq|away is now known as tenq 00:28:50 -!- tenq is now known as tenq|away 00:29:04 CADD_ [~CADD@12.227.104.109] has joined #scheme 00:29:27 -!- tenq|away is now known as tenq 00:30:08 Why does this work in the REPL: 100 , but doing this in the REPL: (100) will give an error ? 00:30:41 Because (...) is how functions are called. 100 is not a function. Therefore (100) cannot be called 00:30:57 Thank you 00:31:10 Did you perhaps mean '(100) or (quote 100) ? 00:31:14 LeoNerd: Oh, you're here as well. Thanks. 00:31:17 Did you perhaps mean '(100) or (quote (100)) ? even 00:31:21 No. You anwered perfectly. 00:31:21 I'm everywhere, me 00:34:48 ASau` [~user@p54AFF123.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #scheme 00:36:20 -!- dpk [uid15387@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-gavddxyvfkddswnu] has quit [Excess Flood] 00:36:44 dpk [uid15387@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-dekguishkqguefpl] has joined #scheme 00:38:11 -!- ASau [~user@p54AFE9E8.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 00:38:29 -!- Nizumzen [~Nizumzen@cpc1-reig5-2-0-cust251.6-3.cable.virginm.net] has quit [Quit: KVIrc 4.2.0 Equilibrium http://www.kvirc.net/] 00:40:45 joneshf-laptop [~joneshf@c-98-208-36-36.hsd1.ca.comcast.net] has joined #scheme 00:49:36 juxovec [~juxovec@69.219.77.188.dynamic.jazztel.es] has joined #scheme 00:49:53 LeoNerd: Well. If (100) instructs the interpreter to call a function, shouldn't there be parenthesis around the function call to bar, when: (define bar (+ 2 2)) ? 00:50:33 zRecursive [~czsq888@183.12.89.16] has joined #scheme 00:50:45 But that is calling the special form called "define", and passing the symbol "bar" to it 00:50:53 bar isn't being called here 00:50:56 ahhh 00:52:23 not explicitly no, but I'm asking why this call in the REPL is correct: bar 00:52:31 ..but this is incorrect: (bar) 00:53:02 -!- tarkus [~hello@109.230.140.12] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 00:53:49 Because again, bar isn't a function here 00:54:02 You defined it as the result of that expression, the result of (+ 2 2) which presumably is 4 00:54:49 -!- juxovec [~juxovec@69.219.77.188.dynamic.jazztel.es] has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 00:54:59 Hmm. THanks for your input. 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be specific to Racket, but I recall enjoying it: http://www.greghendershott.com/fear-of-macros/ 06:20:29 nisstyre [~yours@oftn/member/Nisstyre] has joined #scheme 06:21:49 offby1:thanks i've been learning Racket along with scheme during this project so I might be able to translate between the two 06:25:24 -!- Shadox [Shadox@68-188-190-4.dhcp.bycy.mi.charter.com] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 06:28:32 juxovec [~juxovec@69.219.77.188.dynamic.jazztel.es] has joined #scheme 06:36:15 -!- Fare [~fare@172.56.18.152] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 06:48:50 -!- arubin [~textual@99-114-192-172.lightspeed.cicril.sbcglobal.net] has quit [Quit: My MacBook has gone to sleep. 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(lambda (x) (if (= x 1) 1 (* x (! (- x 1))))))) (! 7)) 19:14:44 but its working as expected 19:15:03 oh oh 19:15:30 i have ! defined as factorial in global scope 19:16:46 can anyone tell me why it won't work - i do get unbound variable - but why so ? 19:17:34 Because the binding for ! is evaluated in the context where ! is not yet set 19:17:53 Not yet bound, sorry 19:18:13 Which of the ! would throw error ? The last one ? (!7) ? 19:18:41 ah it tries to evaluate the symbol ! in the let right ? 19:18:46 and that fails ... ? 19:20:46 Yes, (! 6) fails 19:21:44 Intersting 19:22:00 thanks MichaelRaskin 19:28:51 -!- HG` [~HG@78.129.177.44] has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 19:29:55 HG` [~HG@31.205.59.111] has joined #scheme 19:38:56 Nizumzen [~Nizumzen@cpc1-reig5-2-0-cust251.6-3.cable.virginm.net] has joined #scheme 19:44:18 annodomini [~lambda@wikipedia/lambda] has joined #scheme 19:50:45 -!- davexunit [~user@fsf/member/davexunit] has quit [Quit: Later] 19:54:45 jeapostrophe [~jay@216-21-162-70.slc.googlefiber.net] has joined #scheme 19:54:45 -!- jeapostrophe [~jay@216-21-162-70.slc.googlefiber.net] has quit [Changing host] 19:54:45 jeapostrophe [~jay@racket/jeapostrophe] has joined #scheme 19:56:20 -!- juxovec [~juxovec@69.219.77.188.dynamic.jazztel.es] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 19:59:10 juxovec [~juxovec@69.219.77.188.dynamic.jazztel.es] has joined #scheme 20:06:23 -!- jeapostrophe [~jay@racket/jeapostrophe] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 20:12:25 -!- scmaccal [~user@bb-216-195-184-157.gwi.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 20:15:25 -!- tizoc` is now known as tizoc 20:15:32 -!- tizoc [~user@li25-112.members.linode.com] has quit [Changing host] 20:15:32 tizoc [~user@unaffiliated/tizoc] has joined #scheme 20:16:48 dropster [~Kim@0x3ec6eb26.inet.dsl.telianet.dk] has joined #scheme 20:18:25 -!- jewel [~jewel@105-237-68-160.access.mtnbusiness.co.za] has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 20:24:10 araujo [~araujo@gentoo/developer/araujo] has joined #scheme 20:27:38 rudybot: (let ((! 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