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There are people who use and maintain pkgsrc on GNU/Linux and FreeBSD, but -- given the per-distribution package managers in GNU/Linux and ports in FreeBSD -- they are usually a lower-priority platform than NetBSD or SmartOS or Mac OS X without as much bulk-build infrastructure, so bug reports help. 01:17:38 -!- yosafbridge [~yosafbrid@li125-242.members.linode.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 01:18:54 yosafbridge [~yosafbrid@li125-242.members.linode.com] has joined #scheme 01:19:20 jao [~jao@21.Red-79-153-49.dynamicIP.rima-tde.net] has joined #scheme 01:19:24 -!- jao [~jao@21.Red-79-153-49.dynamicIP.rima-tde.net] has quit [Changing host] 01:19:24 jao [~jao@pdpc/supporter/professional/jao] has joined #scheme 01:19:58 Fare [~fare@c-68-81-138-252.hsd1.pa.comcast.net] has joined #scheme 01:26:55 -!- Nizumzen [~Nizumzen@cpc1-reig5-2-0-cust251.6-3.cable.virginm.net] has quit [Quit: KVIrc 4.2.0 Equilibrium http://www.kvirc.net/] 01:29:29 Riastradh: I was looking into it yes, but I'm 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timeout: 248 seconds] 05:09:25 -!- snits [~snits@inet-hqmc05-o.oracle.com] has quit [Quit: leaving] 05:12:05 tupi [~user@189.60.18.177] has joined #scheme 05:14:13 ok, so has anyone read 'structure and interpretation of classical mechanics'? 05:16:24 I've heard of it. :-) 05:16:54 But I don't expect to read SICM any time soon, especially not before I finish SICP, which probably won't happen any time soon either. :-P 05:17:36 yeah me too. 05:18:09 the authors are really mad genius hackers 05:18:39 Yep. :-D 05:21:59 Sussman has a new book too. 05:22:06 really? 05:22:12 http://www.amazon.com/Functional-Differential-Geometry-Gerald-Sussman/dp/0262019345 05:22:12 http://tinyurl.com/m3c6arx 05:22:41 It also uses Scheme. 05:24:11 oh that looks great! 05:38:56 snits [~snits@75-167-8-215.phnx.qwest.net] has joined #scheme 05:40:25 -!- tenq is now known as tenq|away 05:44:56 _snits_ [~snits@inet-hqmc02-o.oracle.com] has joined #scheme 05:48:45 -!- snits [~snits@75-167-8-215.phnx.qwest.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 05:52:52 juxovec [~juxovec@50.Red-2-139-196.staticIP.rima-tde.net] has joined #scheme 05:53:35 neat! 05:55:02 I have a lot of catch up to do before I understand that, but it should be a nice segue into SICM 06:01:02 -!- oleo [~oleo@xdsl-78-35-152-242.netcologne.de] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 06:07:37 -!- xnil [~xnil@host-92-4-128-78.as43234.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 06:08:43 xnil [~xnil@host-92-4-128-78.as43234.net] has joined #scheme 06:16:38 In case you have not seen it yet: http://www.infoq.com/presentations/Expression-of-Ideas 06:16:55 "Summary 06:16:56 Gerald Sussman explains how programming can help understand Analytical Mechanics and Differential Geometry, and make some concepts of General Relativity come alive. Indeed, a well-crafted program is an expression of an idea, and it may be a work of art." 06:22:07 -!- arubin [~textual@99-114-192-172.lightspeed.cicril.sbcglobal.net] has quit [Quit: Textual IRC Client: www.textualapp.com] 06:31:34 gravicappa [~gravicapp@ppp91-77-171-144.pppoe.mtu-net.ru] has joined #scheme 06:44:56 Nizumzen [~Nizumzen@cpc1-reig5-2-0-cust251.6-3.cable.virginm.net] has joined #scheme 06:46:41 Heather [~Heather@gentoo/developer/cynede] has joined #scheme 06:46:45 hi 06:47:31 how to join all command line arguments to string separated by space? ( with skipping first one I guess ) 06:47:46 thought I should take a look to list / array manipulations in scheme 06:48:07 _5kg [~zifeitong@li388-184.members.linode.com] has joined #scheme 06:48:14 -!- _5kg [~zifeitong@li388-184.members.linode.com] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 06:48:46 peterhil [~peterhil@dsl-hkibrasgw3-58c156-108.dhcp.inet.fi] has joined #scheme 06:48:53 seems like there is (string-join but only I need skip first arg 06:55:15 thought I need to map list to string list 06:56:09 (map (make-string ? 06:57:16 -!- _snits_ [~snits@inet-hqmc02-o.oracle.com] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 07:03:21 snits [~snits@75-167-8-215.phnx.qwest.net] has joined #scheme 07:03:55 -!- `^_^v [~nycs@rrcs-24-39-141-128.nyc.biz.rr.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 07:04:54 -!- Heather [~Heather@gentoo/developer/cynede] has left #scheme 07:05:32 -!- tupi [~user@189.60.18.177] has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 07:17:13 jewel 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Maybe you guys have something else on your bookmarks 18:08:31 -!- tinhead [uid19091@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-guxplpmpwunzzxgd] has quit [Changing host] 18:08:31 tinhead [uid19091@unaffiliated/tinhead] has joined #scheme 18:08:31 -!- tinhead [uid19091@unaffiliated/tinhead] has quit [Changing host] 18:08:31 tinhead [uid19091@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-guxplpmpwunzzxgd] has joined #scheme 18:08:39 tcleval: then here it is: (let ((x y)) z) = ((lambda (x) z) y), roughly. (let ((a b) (c d)) z) = ((lambda (a c) z) b d), (let* ((a b) (c d)) z) = (((lambda (a) (lambda (c) z)) b) d) 18:09:46 checking that pdf 18:10:15 defanor: I see, I knew that. I kinda need a list of those. I just got the pdf, so maybe it is the solution, I found it after asking here 18:11:07 -!- kobain [~sambio@unaffiliated/kobain] has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 18:11:32 -!- nisstyre [~yours@oftn/member/Nisstyre] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 18:12:22 tcleval: oh, you might enjoy playing with church encoding then. not in scheme, but it's easy to find lists of "unsugared" numbers, lists, etc 18:12:51 but idk where you could find lists of such things in scheme 18:13:54 -!- pnkfelix [~pnkfelix@89.202.203.51] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 18:14:49 defanor: well, that pdf looks enough for a start. 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23:08:49 crundar__ [~Jason@99-108-225-58.lightspeed.iplsin.sbcglobal.net] has joined #scheme 23:11:02 -!- add^_ [~user@m5-241-186-97.cust.tele2.se] has quit [Quit: ERC Version 5.3 (IRC client for Emacs)] 23:11:47 davexunit [~user@fsf/member/davexunit] has joined #scheme 23:13:28 -!- dkordic [~danilo@109-93-166-30.dynamic.isp.telekom.rs] has quit [Read error: Operation timed out] 23:15:58 -!- sheilong [~sabayonus@unaffiliated/sheilong] has quit [Read error: Operation timed out] 23:16:58 -!- civodul [~user@gateway/tor-sasl/civodul] has quit [Quit: ERC Version 5.3 (IRC client for Emacs)] 23:19:05 (define W the-set-of-all-whole-numbers) 23:19:26 (map (+ 2) W) 23:19:27 -!- bjz [~bjz@125.253.99.68] has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 23:19:30 something like that 23:20:20 oops 23:20:46 bjz [~bjz@125.253.99.68] has joined #scheme 23:22:27 (define W-plus-two (map (lambda (n) (+ 2 n)) W)) 23:22:52 (select-W 10) 23:22:58 = 12 23:23:03 something like that. 23:24:59 zRecursive [~czsq888@183.12.89.202] has joined #scheme 23:27:35 dkordic [~danilo@93-86-153-166.dynamic.isp.telekom.rs] has joined #scheme 23:33:16 zacts: Check out lazy Racket. 23:33:37 ah ok 23:33:50 There's also a paper describing its implementation, I believe. 23:34:08 IIRC, it's "Laziness Without all the Hard Work" by Clements and Barzilay 23:38:49 juxovec [~juxovec@69.219.77.188.dynamic.jazztel.es] has joined #scheme 23:43:02 -!- juxovec [~juxovec@69.219.77.188.dynamic.jazztel.es] has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 23:44:47 Sgeo [~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net] has joined #scheme 23:52:45 -!- mmc1 [~michal@j212115.upc-j.chello.nl] has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds]