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[~jao@pdpc/supporter/professional/jao] has joined #scheme 02:51:34 (chicken-scheme-egg-zacts-ly) 02:55:35 I got the pragmatic press 'good math' book 02:55:43 it's kind of fun 02:58:05 but it talks about things similar to the UTM and the above discussion about SICP and eval.. 02:59:33 Usynchronous Transfer Mode? 02:59:59 Universal Tourist Mechanic? 03:00:15 um.. universal turing machine. 03:01:11 HOW CAN I BE SO IGNORANT 03:01:36 offby1: ? 03:03:15 zacts: ! 03:03:28 perhaps you should drink some coffee, or something. 03:05:28 well, sure; but that's _always_ good advice. 03:08:58 fire [~fire@unaffiliated/security] has joined #scheme 03:14:54 Anybody uses petite ? How can i convert "(string-split str #\space)" from Guile ? 03:16:26 BTW. can i sleep milliseconds using Scheme ? 03:26:50 juxovec [~juxovec@ip-89-177-53-194.net.upcbroadband.cz] has joined #scheme 03:31:39 -!- juxovec [~juxovec@ip-89-177-53-194.net.upcbroadband.cz] has quit [Ping timeout: 266 seconds] 03:41:00 hm.. let me double check, but can't you use decimals for fractions of a second with scheme? 03:41:35 oh nope, sorry.. 03:42:29 usleep? 03:43:02 but it seems to not be portable. I'll let someone else who knows answer 03:43:50 -!- fire [~fire@unaffiliated/security] has quit [Quit: WeeChat 0.4.1] 03:44:44 yeah 03:46:03 -!- zRecursive [~czsq888@183.13.200.228] has left #scheme 03:46:39 -!- stepnem [~stepnem@internet2.cznet.cz] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 04:17:52 preflex_ [~preflex@unaffiliated/mauke/bot/preflex] has joined #scheme 04:18:07 -!- preflex [~preflex@unaffiliated/mauke/bot/preflex] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 04:18:38 -!- preflex_ is now known as preflex 04:24:40 -!- alexei___ [~amgarchin@p4FD61105.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [Read error: Operation timed out] 04:24:50 -!- kubatyszko [~kubatyszk@softbank126078216014.bbtec.net] has quit [Quit: kubatyszko] 04:25:46 alexei___ [~amgarchin@p4FD61450.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #scheme 04:26:36 juxovec [~juxovec@ip-89-177-53-194.net.upcbroadband.cz] has joined #scheme 04:30:51 -!- juxovec [~juxovec@ip-89-177-53-194.net.upcbroadband.cz] has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 04:33:13 Rodya_ [~trav@c-69-242-48-55.hsd1.nj.comcast.net] has joined #scheme 04:35:39 tupi [~user@189.60.18.177] has joined #scheme 04:43:21 -!- tupi [~user@189.60.18.177] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 04:45:25 -!- tenq is now known as tenq|away 04:50:01 -!- jao [~jao@pdpc/supporter/professional/jao] has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 04:52:23 kubatyszko [~kubatyszk@softbank126078216014.bbtec.net] has joined #scheme 04:52:29 -!- kubatyszko [~kubatyszk@softbank126078216014.bbtec.net] has quit [Client Quit] 05:05:55 annodomini [~lambda@c-76-23-156-75.hsd1.ma.comcast.net] has joined #scheme 05:05:55 -!- annodomini [~lambda@c-76-23-156-75.hsd1.ma.comcast.net] has quit [Changing host] 05:05:55 annodomini [~lambda@wikipedia/lambda] has joined #scheme 05:20:53 zRecursive [~czsq888@183.13.200.228] has joined #scheme 05:26:31 juxovec [~juxovec@ip-89-177-53-194.net.upcbroadband.cz] has joined #scheme 05:28:27 -!- truncate [~vishesh@103.30.140.37] has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 05:31:49 -!- juxovec [~juxovec@ip-89-177-53-194.net.upcbroadband.cz] has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 05:33:44 -!- kobain [~sambio@unaffiliated/kobain] has quit [] 05:42:08 juxovec [~juxovec@ip-89-177-53-194.net.upcbroadband.cz] has joined #scheme 05:43:32 -!- juxovec [~juxovec@ip-89-177-53-194.net.upcbroadband.cz] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 05:43:53 juxovec [~juxovec@ip-89-177-53-194.net.upcbroadband.cz] has joined #scheme 05:44:17 most questions like "can I do X in scheme" have the same answer: "it depends on the particular Scheme" 05:45:02 -!- juxovec [~juxovec@ip-89-177-53-194.net.upcbroadband.cz] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 05:45:18 truncate [~vishesh@103.30.140.37] has joined #scheme 05:45:29 juxovec [~juxovec@ip-89-177-53-194.net.upcbroadband.cz] has joined #scheme 05:47:11 it is hard for US to pick right Scheme impl. ? 05:47:26 yes. 05:49:38 -!- juxovec [~juxovec@ip-89-177-53-194.net.upcbroadband.cz] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 05:50:14 petite is fast but few people use it. 05:51:42 the newest Guile even cannot be built on my FreeBSD box 05:53:49 welcome to Scheme 05:53:56 racket is pretty nice; it's what I use. 05:55:57 offby1: racket seems too big and slow ? 05:56:08 not to me 05:56:25 I am written in Racket and I'm reasonably fast 05:57:01 rudybot: is it true? Are you really written in Racket? 05:57:02 *offby1: i've written two sorts of c++ proggies -- first I basically wrote like C, but used some c++ features; then I tried to change my style to be "c++-like", e.g. using references. the latter style seemed to _really_ reduce my bug count 05:57:16 rudybot: But that makes no sense! Please speak understandably. 05:57:16 *offby1: The R7RS-small working group is understandably reluctant to nail down the semantics of somethign that may not yet be fully understood. 05:57:32 rudybot: I'm starting to suspect that you're some kind of gibberish bot. 05:57:34 *offby1: It really is a problem with patents themselves. In most probability, HTC probably independently came to a similar mechanism than the gibberish that's written in that patent claim. The purpose of patents is to *disclose* secrets. If there was independent discovery, what secret needed to be disclosed (and now I'm learning that none of what I'm saying is applicable to design patents). 05:58:01 zRecursive: fast enough for you? 05:59:57 not clear 06:01:04 offby1: racket is not in my OS repa. 06:01:20 s/repa/repo/ 06:02:34 zRecursive: a) your OS sucks :-) b) it's easy to download 06:04:00 it is FreeBSD 06:05:54 -!- Rodya_ [~trav@c-69-242-48-55.hsd1.nj.comcast.net] has quit [Quit: Ex-Chat] 06:06:24 -!- mvbn324_ [~mvbn@95.211.169.45] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 06:07:10 offby1: To be fair, building Racket from scratch is rather painful, and there's no BSD version on the web site. 06:08:44 I don't recall it being hard to build from source ... 06:08:51 Slow, was what I meant. 06:08:53 ah 06:09:00 Though not as slow as Guile, which took me half a day. 06:09:03 it does spend an age or two building docs. 06:09:13 I gave up on Guile even on Linux 06:10:20 Anyway, I now have all my Schemes installed on an offsite computer, where hopefully I won't have to build them again. 06:11:15 building them on CoLinux was a pain, because I often had to reinstall the disk image due to corruption. 06:12:35 but since I can't run CoLinux on Win64, it was time to look elsewhere. 06:17:03 jcowan: was Ec2 an option? 06:17:27 It was, but the site I'm using is free to me, courtesy the sysadmin. 06:17:41 He even made me a sudoer, which makes installation far less painful. 06:22:06 mvbn324_ [~mvbn@95.211.138.27] has joined #scheme 06:29:59 -!- arubin [~textual@99-114-192-172.lightspeed.cicril.sbcglobal.net] has quit [Quit: Textual IRC Client: www.textualapp.com] 06:30:20 -!- jeapostrophe [~jay@racket/jeapostrophe] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 06:31:27 -!- jcowan [~John@earth.ccil.org] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 06:44:10 karswell [~user@239.54.125.91.dyn.plus.net] has joined #scheme 06:46:51 gravicappa [~gravicapp@ppp91-77-182-160.pppoe.mtu-net.ru] has joined #scheme 06:56:23 zRecursive: are 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not for 5 (an integer)? 12:11:33 i.e. gives #f for the latter 12:15:08 ebzzry [~ebzzry@112.204.31.237] has joined #scheme 12:15:41 how about (lambda (x) (and (rational? x) (not (integer? x)))) 12:18:31 SirDayBat: you need exact? as well 12:18:40 otherwise 3.0 passes 12:19:14 ohh right, didn't realize that. thanks 12:20:01 somehow i was under the impression that inexact and rational are mutually exclusive 12:21:19 nope :) afaiu inexact numbers are rational approximations of exact numbers 12:22:19 with the exception of strange things like nan and infinity 12:22:46 btw, i guess 3.0 still wouldn't pass, because it's also an integer :p but 0.5 would 12:23:38 without exact?, that is 12:23:44 ah, indeed 12:27:23 -!- alexei___ [~amgarchin@p4FD61450.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 12:27:33 alexei___ [~amgarchin@p4FD61450.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #scheme 12:41:27 -!- araujo [~araujo@gentoo/developer/araujo] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 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another Android IRC client - http://www.yaaic.org] 21:19:57 Nizumzen [~Nizumzen@cpc1-reig5-2-0-cust251.6-3.cable.virginm.net] has joined #scheme 21:25:18 -!- gravicappa [~gravicapp@ppp91-77-182-160.pppoe.mtu-net.ru] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 21:32:02 offby1: guile isn't difficult to build on debian wheezy 21:32:12 guile-2.0.* 21:33:16 I seem to recall having a remarkably hard time building it at one point, but it was probably on Ubuntu 12.04 21:35:36 I wish that zRecursive was here, I could help him get racket installed 21:36:34 zacts: how is your chicken-on-minix quest going btw? 21:37:00 -!- rajeshsr [~rajeshsr@106.51.43.4] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 21:37:00 defanor: hm.. I've been kind of busy with school stuff. I'll have to try more when I have more time. 21:38:22 also, I'm thinking I'll port chibi-scheme to minix pkgsrc first, since I got chibi-scheme-static to build out of the box without any errors 21:38:41 I don't like pkgsrc at all though. guix looks cool. 21:40:51 -!- araujo [~araujo@gentoo/developer/araujo] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 21:42:09 pkgsrc could have been cool, but the current situation kind of sucks. Linux packages fail to build, FreeBSD packages fail to build, ... 21:42:25 yeah, it does. i'd like to try it, but seems like there's almost no point in functional package manager if it'll be used together with another package manager, or even with manually installed packages. and making packages for everything and resolving dependencies manually will take too much time 21:42:40 I mean things like zsh and vim failt to build 21:43:28 defanor: are you referring to guix? 21:43:54 yep 21:44:41 yeah, I still need to learn more about it. 21:44:49 but it does look/sound cool 21:44:51 and about chibi on minix: is it possible to disable threads in chibi? that could be an issue 21:45:24 I'll have to double check, but I think so. 21:47:33 also, I'll have to talk with ASau as he is the chicken-scheme maintainer of pkgsrc. 21:48:46 -!- Nizumzen [~Nizumzen@cpc1-reig5-2-0-cust251.6-3.cable.virginm.net] has quit [Quit: KVIrc 4.2.0 Equilibrium http://www.kvirc.net/] 21:50:51 -!- civodul [~user@gateway/tor-sasl/civodul] has quit [Quit: ERC Version 5.3 (IRC client for Emacs)] 21:52:47 -!- hiroakip [~hiroaki@77-20-51-63-dynip.superkabel.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 22:00:35 nisstyre [~yours@oftn/member/Nisstyre] has joined #scheme 22:01:11 pecg [~pecg@unaffiliated/pecg] has joined #scheme 22:05:36 -!- weie [~weie@softbank221078042071.bbtec.net] has quit [Quit: Leaving...] 22:06:27 -!- wingo [~wingo@cha74-2-88-160-190-192.fbx.proxad.net] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 22:10:08 araujo [~araujo@gentoo/developer/araujo] has joined #scheme 22:11:58 hiroakip [~hiroaki@77-20-51-63-dynip.superkabel.de] has joined #scheme 22:12:47 yrdz [~p_adams@unaffiliated/p-adams/x-7117614] has joined #scheme 22:13:27 -!- araujo [~araujo@gentoo/developer/araujo] has quit [Client Quit] 22:14:41 Rodya_ [~trav@71.175.107.141] has joined #scheme 22:17:58 -!- hiroakip [~hiroaki@77-20-51-63-dynip.superkabel.de] has quit [Read error: Operation timed out] 22:20:39 -!- mrowe_away is now known as mrowe 22:24:33 hiroakip [~hiroaki@77-20-51-63-dynip.superkabel.de] has joined #scheme 22:29:41 -!- varioust [~varioust@76.84.8.145] has quit [] 22:31:39 araujo [~araujo@gentoo/developer/araujo] has joined #scheme 22:32:21 -!- juxovec [~juxovec@50.Red-2-139-196.staticIP.rima-tde.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 22:35:48 -!- pecg [~pecg@unaffiliated/pecg] has quit [Quit: WeeChat 0.4.2] 22:44:33 -!- truncate [~vishesh@103.30.140.37] has quit [Quit: WeeChat 0.4.2] 22:47:01 -!- jao [~jao@pdpc/supporter/professional/jao] has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 22:53:31 etenil [~user@46-65-68-203.zone16.bethere.co.uk] has joined #scheme 22:54:42 Hi there, I'm beginning with scheme. I'm looking for a procedure to replace all occurences of a string within a string, but I can only find some for characters. Is there a built-in way to do that? 22:56:17 there's STRING-REPLACE if you're using Racket 22:56:35 not sure if it's part of RxRS. 22:57:51 I'm using Guile, and it looks like it works only on characters 22:58:26 Hm. 22:59:11 etenil: regexp-substitute seems to be the function in Guile. 22:59:15 I'm no expert, though. 22:59:25 ah thanks, I'm looking 23:00:06 mmh, but then would that not make my code Guile-only? 23:00:51 Proably :) 23:01:00 sroabrobabr 23:01:09 -!- stepnem [~stepnem@internet2.cznet.cz] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 23:01:47 :-/ 23:03:14 juxovec [~juxovec@50.Red-2-139-196.staticIP.rima-tde.net] has joined #scheme 23:08:13 -!- juxovec [~juxovec@50.Red-2-139-196.staticIP.rima-tde.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 23:10:56 -!- add^_ [~user@m5-241-186-97.cust.tele2.se] has quit [Quit: ERC Version 5.3 (IRC client for Emacs)] 23:17:21 -!- araujo [~araujo@gentoo/developer/araujo] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 23:19:15 -!- FunkyDrummer [~RageOfTho@unaffiliated/rageofthou] has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 23:26:56 -!- annodomini [~lambda@wikipedia/lambda] has quit [Quit: annodomini] 23:30:11 araujo [~araujo@190.73.46.113] has joined #scheme 23:30:11 -!- araujo [~araujo@190.73.46.113] has quit [Changing host] 23:30:11 araujo [~araujo@gentoo/developer/araujo] has joined #scheme 23:32:49 -!- thevishy [~user@122.179.41.109] has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 23:33:43 juxovec [~juxovec@50.Red-2-139-196.staticIP.rima-tde.net] has joined #scheme 23:35:05 -!- araujo [~araujo@gentoo/developer/araujo] has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 23:37:25 -!- etenil [~user@46-65-68-203.zone16.bethere.co.uk] has quit [Quit: ERC Version 5.3 (IRC client for Emacs)] 23:37:37 -!- hiroakip [~hiroaki@77-20-51-63-dynip.superkabel.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 23:38:37 -!- juxovec [~juxovec@50.Red-2-139-196.staticIP.rima-tde.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 23:48:44 -!- tiksa [~tiksa@gateway/tor-sasl/tiksa] has quit [Quit: quit] 23:53:01 tiksa [~tiksa@gateway/tor-sasl/tiksa] has joined #scheme 23:58:44 zRecursive [~czsq888@183.12.92.204] has joined #scheme