00:05:35 lists don't have an index 00:11:23 przl [~przlrkt@p4FE6448B.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #scheme 00:14:53 groovy2shoes, apparently they do because list-ref exists 00:15:10 The function which passes the index is both implementable and usable. 00:15:51 TELawrence: maybe I should say, there's no pre-defined notion of an index for lists 00:16:03 list-ref takes a position, not an index 00:16:22 and "indices" for association lists can be non-numeric 00:16:45 THose are keys though, not indices. 00:16:57 index is always numeric 00:17:00 keys needn't be. 00:17:06 though I agree that I don't think vector-map should apply its argument to both the index and the value, and it's better placed into a separate function 00:17:07 Like, in a hash table the index also differs from the key 00:17:17 I agree with you agreeing with me 00:17:30 There's no reason why say map-index can't exist for lists and vector-map-index to do the same for vectors 00:17:44 well, I still don't agree that lists have indices 00:17:59 It is a travesty of naming conventions and whoever responsible must be exacted vengeance upon. 00:18:07 Well, what to call it is not relevant per se 00:18:16 index to me implies a constant-time lookup, whereas list-ref is linear-time 00:18:18 It'smore that map-index or however you want to call it is implementable and useful. 00:18:31 agreed 00:18:35 -!- przl [~przlrkt@p4FE6448B.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 00:18:45 I call it iter myself 00:18:49 map vs iter or iter-map 00:19:06 -!- amoe [~amoe@li195-121.members.linode.com] has quit [Quit: leaving] 00:19:07 iter makes a good name for it, methinks 00:19:17 Indeed 00:19:25 so, whom should be punish for this travesty of naming conventions? 00:19:36 amoe [~amoe@li195-121.members.linode.com] has joined #scheme 00:19:41 hatFolk [~hatFolk@ip68-100-228-234.dc.dc.cox.net] has joined #scheme 00:19:46 Taylor Campbell 00:19:51 says so right on srfi-43 00:20:01 -!- tenq is now known as tenq|away 00:20:36 -!- tenq|away is now known as tenq 00:20:59 gauche has map-with-index for all sequences 00:21:17 and lists are sequences 00:21:53 -!- tiksa [~tiksa@gateway/tor-sasl/tiksa] has quit [Quit: quit] 00:22:30 boycottg00gle, well I guess the thing is lists are given numerical keys via a mapping, but you can basically give any collection numerical keys and call it an index. 00:22:49 Also, I like strong typing 00:22:51 and justice 00:23:03 I am like Draco, strict, but just, like Vlad Tepes. 00:23:17 Vlad the impaler is the embodiment of justice 00:29:47 fridim_ [~fridim@24.114.83.121] has joined #scheme 00:33:36 es [~estevocas@118.Red-81-32-187.dynamicIP.rima-tde.net] has joined #scheme 00:33:36 -!- es is now known as estevocastro 00:34:09 -!- alexei_ [~amgarchin@p4FD6106E.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 00:35:49 alexei_ [~amgarchin@p4FD6106E.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #scheme 00:38:09 -!- fridim_ [~fridim@24.114.83.121] has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 00:43:56 joneshf-laptop [~joneshf@086.112-30-64.ftth.swbr.surewest.net] has joined #scheme 00:46:34 -!- Nizumzen [~Nizumzen@cpc1-reig5-2-0-cust251.6-3.cable.virginm.net] has quit [Quit: KVIrc 4.2.0 Equilibrium http://www.kvirc.net/] 00:51:36 Yeah .. I'm sure about that. 00:51:47 Would you like to talk about your childhood, TELawrence ? 01:13:53 przl [~przlrkt@p4FE6448B.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #scheme 01:19:11 -!- przl [~przlrkt@p4FE6448B.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 01:20:25 taylanub, hmm? 01:21:02 Just joking .. 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