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[~smuxi@227.Red-83-45-165.dynamicIP.rima-tde.net] has quit [Read error: Operation timed out] 08:12:53 Kneferilis: you mean scheme vs common *lisp* ? ;) 08:14:02 zacts, yes 08:19:42 -!- nisstyre [~yours@oftn/member/Nisstyre] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 08:24:43 hiyosi [~skip_it@247.94.30.125.dy.iij4u.or.jp] has joined #scheme 08:26:30 twem2 [~tristan@puma-aaisp.mxtelecom.com] has joined #scheme 08:29:31 -!- hiyosi [~skip_it@247.94.30.125.dy.iij4u.or.jp] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 08:36:17 Cromulent [~Cromulent@cpc1-reig5-2-0-cust251.6-3.cable.virginm.net] has joined #scheme 08:37:40 nisstyre [~yours@oftn/member/Nisstyre] has joined #scheme 08:40:52 oxum [~oxum@122.164.19.162] has joined #scheme 08:54:06 weie [~weie@softbank221078042071.bbtec.net] has joined #scheme 08:54:21 -!- ehaliewicz [~user@50-0-51-28.dsl.static.sonic.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 08:56:55 -!- haroldwu [~haroldwu@unaffiliated/haroldwu] has quit [Quit: leaving] 08:57:13 haroldwu 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Obviously this is a very vague thing to say. A list of precise technical differences could be found on 1) the Wikipedia pages for Scheme and CL, 2) the standards for Scheme and CL (RnRS, IEEE, CLHS, ANSI CL), 3) feature-lists of specific implementations of CL and Scheme, from their own 09:59:50 documentation. 10:00:45 TaylanUB, I see, thank you. 10:09:15 ogamita` [~t@tru75-h02-31-38-72-69.dsl.sta.abo.bbox.fr] has joined #scheme 10:17:50 vraid [c1b4bd9e@gateway/web/freenode/ip.193.180.189.158] has joined #scheme 10:17:55 -!- REPLeffect [~REPLeffec@69.54.115.254] has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 10:19:01 Kneferilis: common lisp is more usually feature rich, for example, a object system, the monster LOOP macro 10:19:50 I see. 10:20:04 REPLeffect [~REPLeffec@69.54.115.254] has joined #scheme 10:20:12 There was a doctor something scheme free interpreter is it still available? 10:20:56 Kneferilis: known as racket now 10:21:02 Kneferilis: If you mean DrRacket, It's become a scheme sub-branch now, called "Racket" 10:22:50 I see, so 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[~Adium@bas75-2-88-170-201-21.fbx.proxad.net] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 21:34:37 Is it possible to write a macro that returns a literal string at compile time? Want to redefine the include function in such a way: (include1 directory-as-string filename-as-string) instead of (include filename-as-string). Assignment should take place at compile time with result as inn (include (string-append prefix filename)) (explicit use of string-append itself at runtime is impossible 21:34:37 because include needs literal string as argument) 21:35:07 -!- kilimanjaro [~kilimanja@unaffiliated/kilimanjaro] has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 21:35:51 kilimanjaro [~kilimanja@unaffiliated/kilimanjaro] has joined #scheme 21:37:22 Riastradh [~riastradh@jupiter.mumble.net] has joined #scheme 21:41:35 zzach: it's possible with eval, not sure about plain syntax without it 21:42:09 http://lpaste.net/7303347408719577088 - like this 21:43:37 defanor_: thanks, will try the example. 21:45:17 That's not how EVAL or what is usually called INCLUDE works... 21:45:39 -!- langmartin [~langmarti@host-68-169-175-226.WISOLT2.epbfi.com] has quit [Quit: sleep] 21:48:55 -!- alexei [~amgarchin@p4FD619A1.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 21:49:36 groovy2shoes [~guv@cpe-071-077-065-019.nc.res.rr.com] has joined #scheme 21:49:44 -!- groovy2shoes [~guv@cpe-071-077-065-019.nc.res.rr.com] has quit [Changing host] 21:49:44 groovy2shoes [~guv@unaffiliated/groovebot] has joined #scheme 21:49:58 SYNTAX-RULES can't express this. You need the string concatenation to happen at macro-expand-time. If your Scheme system does SYNTAX-CASE, for example, then you might write (define-syntax include1 (lambda (stx) (syntax-case stx () ((include1 d f) (with-syntax ((p (datum->syntax (string-append (syntax->datum f "/" d))))) (syntax (include p] 21:50:01 sorry if it's not correct, maybe somebody will fix it 21:52:36 -!- nisstyre [~yours@oftn/member/Nisstyre] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 21:54:00 Riastradh: your note might have got cut short 21:54:57 Where? 21:56:11 (syntax (include p] 21:56:21 not sure how it ended with a ] 21:56:38 Means `close everything because I don't want to bother to count'. 21:57:01 picolisp actually allows that, hehe 21:57:19 -!- TaylanUB [tub@p4FD91A1F.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [Disconnected by services] 21:57:45 TaylanUB [tub@p4FD92619.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #scheme 21:57:59 :) 22:00:41 -!- TaylanUB [tub@p4FD92619.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [Client Quit] 22:03:20 nisstyre [~yours@oftn/member/Nisstyre] has joined #scheme 22:03:26 -!- gcartier [~gcartier@modemcable010.136-201-24.mc.videotron.ca] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 22:03:32 pnkfelix [~Adium@bas75-2-88-170-201-21.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #scheme 22:03:33 -!- wingo [~wingo@cha74-2-88-160-190-192.fbx.proxad.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 22:04:33 Riastradh: Got error message (in Guile) unknown location: reference to pattern variable outside syntax form in form f 22:05:13 Whoops, it did get truncated but not at the end. 22:05:15 ASau` [~user@p5083D665.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #scheme 22:05:25 -!- kilimanjaro [~kilimanja@unaffiliated/kilimanjaro] has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 22:05:27 Should have been (string-append (syntax->datum (syntax f)) "/" (syntax->datum (syntax d))). 22:05:54 kilimanjaro [~kilimanja@unaffiliated/kilimanjaro] has joined #scheme 22:06:28 -!- tenq is now known as tenq|away 22:06:37 hiroakip [~hiroaki@77-20-51-63-dynip.superkabel.de] has joined #scheme 22:08:37 -!- ASau [~user@p54AFFD70.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 22:10:26 -!- kilimanjaro [~kilimanja@unaffiliated/kilimanjaro] has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 22:10:55 kilimanjaro [~kilimanja@unaffiliated/kilimanjaro] has joined #scheme 22:11:10 -!- pnkfelix [~Adium@bas75-2-88-170-201-21.fbx.proxad.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 22:13:18 -!- Cromulent [~Cromulent@cpc1-reig5-2-0-cust251.6-3.cable.virginm.net] has quit [Quit: KVIrc 4.2.0 Equilibrium http://www.kvirc.net/] 22:16:08 TaylanUB [tub@p4FD92A73.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #scheme 22:16:19 -!- zacts [~zacts@unaffiliated/zacts] has quit [Quit: leaving] 22:17:07 -!- dsmith [~dsmith@cpe-184-56-129-232.neo.res.rr.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 22:17:12 zacts [~user@unaffiliated/zacts] has joined #scheme 22:22:17 -!- ASau` is now known as ASau 22:32:10 dsmith [~dsmith@cpe-184-56-129-232.neo.res.rr.com] has joined #scheme 22:34:19 -!- alexshendi [~alexshend@HSI-KBW-078-043-199-120.hsi4.kabel-badenwuerttemberg.de] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 22:34:27 -!- Riastradh [~riastradh@jupiter.mumble.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 22:36:02 duggiefresh [~duggiefre@c-66-30-11-90.hsd1.ma.comcast.net] has joined #scheme 22:36:41 -!- nisstyre [~yours@oftn/member/Nisstyre] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 22:40:00 -!- strobegen [~Adium@188.168.72.236] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 22:41:11 -!- przl [~przlrkt@p5DCA3ACA.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 22:43:20 -!- jao [~jao@pdpc/supporter/professional/jao] has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 22:47:33 kvda [~kvda@unaffiliated/kvda] has joined #scheme 22:49:02 -!- duggiefresh [~duggiefre@c-66-30-11-90.hsd1.ma.comcast.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 22:49:40 Sgeo [~quassel@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net] has joined #scheme 22:49:41 -!- juanfra [~juanfra@unaffiliated/juanfra] has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 22:55:42 juanfra [~juanfra@unaffiliated/juanfra] has joined #scheme 23:15:25 -!- civodul [~user@gateway/tor-sasl/civodul] has quit [Quit: ERC Version 5.3 (IRC client for Emacs)] 23:20:01 hiroaki [~hiroaki@77-20-51-63-dynip.superkabel.de] has joined #scheme 23:20:02 -!- hiroakip [~hiroaki@77-20-51-63-dynip.superkabel.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 23:28:23 duggiefresh [~duggiefre@c-66-30-11-90.hsd1.ma.comcast.net] has joined #scheme 23:29:48 -!- tenq|away is now known as tenq 23:31:31 -!- hiroaki [~hiroaki@77-20-51-63-dynip.superkabel.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds]