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I always assumed it was short for "Scheme 7", but the author disabused me of that notion 02:32:16 -!- effy [~quassel@123.122.68.209] has quit [Quit: No Ping reply in 180 seconds.] 02:34:04 *offby1* rolls eyes 02:34:48 hmm, according to https://encrypted.google.com/search?q=s7, it's more of a car or a plane 02:35:39 racycle [~racycle@75-25-129-128.lightspeed.sjcpca.sbcglobal.net] has joined #scheme 02:37:21 effy [~quassel@123.122.68.209] has joined #scheme 02:38:50 gzg [~user@75-132-28-10.dhcp.stls.mo.charter.com] has joined #scheme 02:39:18 offby1: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sunbeam_S7_and_S8 02:39:46 ah, old-school 02:39:52 *offby1* pictures Anthony Hopkins on 'em 02:42:27 Quite likely 02:42:41 Brit-flavored BMWs 02:46:13 jcowan: something tells me you haven't seen http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0412080/ 02:46:36 I have not. 02:46:48 I am fairly ignorant about motorcycles 02:47:12 me too 02:47:12 is there an offtopic channel for #scheme? 02:47:15 they have two wheels 02:47:20 not implying you're all being OT (though you are) 02:47:21 nisstyre: what, this isn't it? 02:47:23 but that would be fun 02:47:29 nisstyre: maybe #emacs :-) 02:47:39 I'm not into hand exercises 02:48:06 AFAIK our offtopic channel is #scheme 02:48:26 nisstyre: you seem to be under some sort of misapprehension that #emacs is a channel for emacs discussion 02:49:28 I have actually gone there to ask emacs questions, though 02:49:31 ijp: it's for hand exercising enthusiasts 02:49:33 right? 02:49:33 and gotten good answers, too 02:50:04 jcowan: of course, but we mostly discuss random crap 02:50:32 Plenty of that in every channel, though I admit there is quite a lot in #emacs from what I have seen. 02:50:36 I think maybe 10% of the questions I ask on there are emacs related 02:51:02 jcowan: I don't like channels that are too ontopic 02:51:07 any psychology enthusiasts here? 02:51:21 rudybot: can you believe they actually discuss haskell on #haskell! 02:51:22 ijp: If you want to discuss the elements of SYNTAX-CASE, then it's probably not very useful. 02:51:27 let's have a good argument on behaviorism vs. cognitive psych 02:51:48 or maybe argue whether trait theory is a good model for personality 02:52:33 TylerDurder [~sabayonus@unaffiliated/sheilong] has joined #scheme 02:54:13 -!- Tyler [~sabayonus@unaffiliated/sheilong] has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 02:54:41 rudybot: where do you stand on trait theory? 02:54:42 ijp: There is a genetic trait noted in ashkenazi for almost no alcohol tolerance. 02:56:27 rudybot: what do you think of behaviorism? 02:56:27 nisstyre: that's covered under behaviorism, reward often and early, then reduce frequency. which is the formal way of describing high expectations. 02:56:39 rudybot: are you watching the Liz/Dick thing with Dominic West? I am. 02:56:39 *offby1: e1f, no, I didn't know that about Dominic West. Also, the actor who played Stringer is british I think. and is in a show called Luthor 02:56:49 yeah, I knew that 02:57:28 also, I'm, offby1, not e1f. e1f is dead to us. 03:14:19 necroforest [47c0a3ad@gateway/web/freenode/ip.71.192.163.173] has joined #scheme 03:16:24 can you overload operators in scheme? Like if i want to be able to use (*) to multiply matrices that i have somehow appropriately defined 03:17:42 No. But you can redefine a name. 03:18:33 in scheme you can do anything you want, as long asyou implement it 03:19:53 Ripp__ [~textual@c-76-21-7-143.hsd1.ca.comcast.net] has joined #scheme 03:20:21 well, how would i redefine *? 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