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In SICP they mention the term "compound procedure", but I can't find a definition for it. (define ( ) ) is a compound procedure, right? 11:55:13 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Function_composition 11:55:34 -!- antoszka [~antoszka@unaffiliated/antoszka] has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 11:56:44 Ooh, so it's a compound procedure because you wrap some function inside of another function? 11:56:52 antoszka [~antoszka@unaffiliated/antoszka] has joined #scheme 11:56:56 that would be my guess, yes 11:56:56 function/functionality 11:57:28 (define ( ) ( ( ))) 11:57:33 vraid: Thanks! I am feeling tingling sensations in my fingers right now. 11:58:32 i probably messed up that syntax 12:02:48 vraid: I understood, thank you! 12:05:50 np 12:15:57 edw [~edw@cpe-67-250-41-96.nyc.res.rr.com] has joined #scheme 12:17:27 duggiefresh [~dug@66.30.11.90] has joined #scheme 12:20:28 -!- edw [~edw@cpe-67-250-41-96.nyc.res.rr.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 12:23:32 -!- duggiefresh [~dug@66.30.11.90] has quit [Quit: duggiefresh] 12:28:13 duggiefresh_ [~dug@c-66-30-11-90.hsd1.ma.comcast.net] has joined #scheme 12:34:26 -!- ASau [~user@p4FF9774A.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 12:36:10 -!- duggiefresh_ [~dug@c-66-30-11-90.hsd1.ma.comcast.net] has quit [Quit: duggiefresh_] 12:40:52 duggiefresh_ [~dug@c-66-30-11-90.hsd1.ma.comcast.net] has joined #scheme 12:41:08 ASau [~user@p4FF9774A.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #scheme 12:45:32 -!- duggiefresh_ [~dug@c-66-30-11-90.hsd1.ma.comcast.net] has quit [Client Quit] 12:47:53 -!- leppie [~lolcow@105-236-114-29.access.mtnbusiness.co.za] has quit [] 12:48:30 wingo [~wingo@cha74-2-88-160-190-192.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #scheme 12:49:15 leppie [~lolcow@105-236-114-29.access.mtnbusiness.co.za] has joined #scheme 12:51:08 haroldwu_irssi [~haroldwu@114-136-204-37.dynamic.hinet.net] has joined #scheme 13:06:50 Cromulent [~Cromulent@cpc1-reig5-2-0-cust251.6-3.cable.virginmedia.com] has joined #scheme 13:11:53 zett_zelett [~zett_zele@p5DE7BD2D.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #scheme 13:14:13 jrajav [~jrajav@66-188-183-116.dhcp.roch.mn.charter.com] has joined #scheme 13:15:16 Krungthep [Krungthep@58.64.48.124] has joined #scheme 13:22:40 duggiefresh_ [~dug@c-66-30-11-90.hsd1.ma.comcast.net] has joined #scheme 13:26:40 arubin [~arubin@99-114-192-172.lightspeed.cicril.sbcglobal.net] has joined #scheme 13:27:22 civodul [~user@gateway/tor-sasl/civodul] has joined #scheme 13:34:05 walter [~walter@c-24-218-217-69.hsd1.ma.comcast.net] has joined #scheme 13:43:48 alexei [~amgarchin@p4FD63DDF.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #scheme 13:47:59 -!- walter [~walter@c-24-218-217-69.hsd1.ma.comcast.net] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 13:48:56 walter [~walter@c-24-218-217-69.hsd1.ma.comcast.net] has joined #scheme 13:52:00 -!- tenq is now known as tenq|away 14:00:41 -!- hiroakip [~hiroaki@77-20-192-229-dynip.superkabel.de] has quit [Read error: Operation timed out] 14:01:41 hiroakip [~hiroaki@77-20-192-229-dynip.superkabel.de] has joined #scheme 14:03:22 zol: On what page does that term appear ? 14:04:29 -!- civodul [~user@gateway/tor-sasl/civodul] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 14:04:43 Ah OK, found it in the index. 14:06:16 quasiconf live stream: http://streaming.media.ccc.de/c116/ 14:06:36 felix winkelmann will present on scheme implementation techniques in ~25 mins 14:07:13 zol: vraid: Apparently SICP calls all self-defined procedures (in contrast to those that are built into the language implementation) "compound procedures". It has nothing to do with function composition. 14:07:38 BTW I didn't know of this "compound procedure" term and am not sure if it's used anywhere outside of SICP. 14:10:26 It seems to use the term again in section 4.1 (specifically 4.1.3) where it teaches how to implement a Scheme evaluator. 14:10:45 (Procedures are either "primitive" or "compound".) 14:11:39 annodomini [~lambda@c-76-23-156-75.hsd1.ma.comcast.net] has joined #scheme 14:11:39 -!- annodomini [~lambda@c-76-23-156-75.hsd1.ma.comcast.net] has quit [Changing host] 14:11:39 annodomini [~lambda@wikipedia/lambda] has joined #scheme 14:11:54 -!- duggiefresh_ [~dug@c-66-30-11-90.hsd1.ma.comcast.net] has quit [Quit: duggiefresh_] 14:14:02 -!- wingo [~wingo@cha74-2-88-160-190-192.fbx.proxad.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 14:15:14 -!- haroldwu_irssi [~haroldwu@114-136-204-37.dynamic.hinet.net] has quit [Quit: Lost terminal] 14:15:41 -!- bjz [~brendanza@125.253.99.68] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 14:17:19 duggiefresh_ [~dug@c-66-30-11-90.hsd1.ma.comcast.net] has joined #scheme 14:22:21 taylanub: well, that's.. intuitive :| 14:23:41 -!- Cromulent [~Cromulent@cpc1-reig5-2-0-cust251.6-3.cable.virginmedia.com] has quit [Quit: KVIrc 4.1.3 Equilibrium http://www.kvirc.net/] 14:25:43 bjz [~brendanza@125.253.99.68] has joined #scheme 14:26:38 -!- LAMMJohnson [~ja@user-5af430c6.broadband.tesco.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 14:26:42 scoofy [~scoofy@catv-89-135-71-167.catv.broadband.hu] has joined #scheme 14:31:06 -!- duggiefresh_ [~dug@c-66-30-11-90.hsd1.ma.comcast.net] has quit [Quit: duggiefresh_] 14:32:59 -!- scoofy [~scoofy@catv-89-135-71-167.catv.broadband.hu] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 14:58:55 -!- Krungthep [Krungthep@58.64.48.124] has left #scheme 14:59:43 haroldwu_irssi [~haroldwu@111-253-241-111.dynamic.hinet.net] has joined #scheme 15:04:49 -!- pnkfelix [~Adium@bas75-2-88-170-201-21.fbx.proxad.net] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 15:10:38 -!- haroldwu_irssi [~haroldwu@111-253-241-111.dynamic.hinet.net] has quit [Read error: No route to host] 15:18:41 racycle [~racycle@75-25-129-128.lightspeed.sjcpca.sbcglobal.net] has joined #scheme 15:21:13 pnkfelix [~Adium@bas75-2-88-170-201-21.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #scheme 15:28:53 -!- yacks [~py@103.6.158.106] has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 15:31:17 yacks [~py@103.6.158.106] has joined #scheme 15:40:59 scoofy [~scoofy@catv-89-135-71-167.catv.broadband.hu] has joined #scheme 15:43:06 -!- annodomini [~lambda@wikipedia/lambda] has quit [Quit: annodomini] 15:43:24 civodul [~user@gateway/tor-sasl/civodul] has joined #scheme 15:44:07 -!- zett_zelett [~zett_zele@p5DE7BD2D.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 15:44:17 Cromulent [~Cromulent@cpc1-reig5-2-0-cust251.6-3.cable.virginmedia.com] has joined #scheme 15:45:34 -!- jrajav [~jrajav@66-188-183-116.dhcp.roch.mn.charter.com] has quit [Quit: I tend to be neutral about apples] 15:47:18 annodomini [~lambda@wikipedia/lambda] has joined #scheme 15:47:26 -!- igotnolegs- [~igotnoleg@65-130-12-10.slkc.qwest.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 15:51:56 ericmathison [~ericmathi@172-15-249-133.lightspeed.irvnca.sbcglobal.net] has joined #scheme 15:53:16 igotnolegs- [~igotnoleg@65-130-25-95.slkc.qwest.net] has joined #scheme 15:58:58 -!- alexei [~amgarchin@p4FD63DDF.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [Quit: Konversation terminated!] 15:59:08 alexei [~amgarchin@p4FD63DDF.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #scheme 16:01:51 duggiefresh [~dug@c-66-30-11-90.hsd1.ma.comcast.net] has joined #scheme 16:01:56 theseb [~cs@74.194.237.26] has joined #scheme 16:03:52 jao [~jao@55.Red-79-148-157.dynamicIP.rima-tde.net] has joined #scheme 16:03:55 -!- jao [~jao@55.Red-79-148-157.dynamicIP.rima-tde.net] has quit [Changing host] 16:03:55 jao [~jao@pdpc/supporter/professional/jao] has joined #scheme 16:04:54 -!- annodomini [~lambda@wikipedia/lambda] has quit [Quit: annodomini] 16:07:52 -!- duggiefresh [~dug@c-66-30-11-90.hsd1.ma.comcast.net] has quit [Quit: duggiefresh] 16:07:54 Ripp__ [~textual@99-38-251-93.lightspeed.sntcca.sbcglobal.net] has joined #scheme 16:14:10 -!- pnkfelix [~Adium@bas75-2-88-170-201-21.fbx.proxad.net] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 16:15:35 -!- jewel [~jewel@105-236-76-4.access.mtnbusiness.co.za] has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 16:17:31 -!- alexei [~amgarchin@p4FD63DDF.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 16:19:57 the shortcut for quote (single ') seems hard to parse because parser needs to distinguish between string and single quote 16:20:30 e.g. ('a 'b c 'd) compared to ('a ' c 'd'), etc. that's just one example 16:21:48 -!- Ripp__ [~textual@99-38-251-93.lightspeed.sntcca.sbcglobal.net] has quit [Quit: Ripp__] 16:24:24 rudybot: (string? 'd') 16:24:24 fds: if that's in a string, check to see if you have your escaping right 16:24:39 rudybot: Fine, be like that. 16:24:39 fds: We've a couple of very fine roasters here. Yachil (Zapatista coffee) here, thnkyewvrymch. 16:26:12 Riastradh [~riastradh@fsf/member/riastradh] has joined #scheme 16:28:10 rudybot: (string? "d") 16:28:10 fds: ; Value: #t 16:28:19 offby1: Isn't that a bug? ^ 16:28:36 Why would that be a bug? 16:29:05 I think it evals (string? "a string") but not (string? 'notastring) 16:29:25 rudybot: (string? 'd) 16:29:25 Riastradh: your sandbox is ready 16:29:25 Riastradh: ; Value: #f 16:29:37 rudybot: (string? 'd') 16:29:37 fds: apply string 16:29:42 You wrote (string? 'd') earlier, not (string? 'd). 16:29:58 Yes, I see. But still, shouldn't that still be evaluated? 16:30:06 s/still//1 16:30:07 No. (string? 'd') is a syntax error. 16:30:08 rudybot: eval (string? 'd') 16:30:09 Riastradh: error: #:1:12: read: unexpected `)' 16:30:29 -!- civodul [~user@gateway/tor-sasl/civodul] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 16:30:31 Hm, it works in Guile. 16:30:45 Sounds like a bug in Guile to me. 16:31:18 It probably is then. Because ' isn't allowed in symbols? 16:31:59 (foo' x) should parse as (foo (quote x)). (foo') is nonsensical. 16:34:12 theseb: In case fds's answer wasn't clear, Lisps generally don't support single-quotes for strings. 'foo' is not a string, it's a syntax error. 16:34:39 taylanub: REALLY? awesome..I didn't know that!!!! 16:34:48 taylanub: that is soooo cool....that makes parsing 1000x easier 16:34:55 taylanub: thanks like...a lot 16:35:00 (Well, 'foo'bar is (quote foo)(quote bar). :P) 16:35:25 i'd imagine 'foo'bar would be a parsing error 16:35:35 since sexps need elements separated by spaces 16:36:03 If you treat ' as a separator, then things like 'foo'bar should work I think. 16:36:27 Also in Guile I'm getting 'foo' => foo' (the symbol "foo'") but that must surely be an extension. 16:36:37 -!- hive-mind [pranq@unaffiliated/contempt] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 16:45:28 LAMMJohnson [~ja@user-5af430c6.broadband.tesco.net] has joined #scheme 16:46:53 -!- Okasu [~1@unaffiliated/okasu] has quit [Quit: leaving] 16:47:11 Okasu [~1@unaffiliated/okasu] has joined #scheme 16:47:42 theseb: You might want to check the BNF of an RnRS. 16:48:21 hive-mind [pranq@unaffiliated/contempt] has joined #scheme 16:51:37 taylanub: good idea 16:52:18 -!- jao [~jao@pdpc/supporter/professional/jao] has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 16:52:38 ijp [~user@host81-147-190-75.range81-147.btcentralplus.com] has joined #scheme 17:03:07 riastradh: thanks for the succinct explanation! 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