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I think it would be more productive to learn an implementation, instead of the standard. Unless you want to create your own implementation, of course 02:34:26 Denommus: this is only to learn....still.....don't all the implementations adhere to specs pretty faithfully? 02:34:47 Denommus: yes I do want to create a little implementation 02:34:56 maybe not a FULL one but lots of it 02:35:20 RRS could be fine for learning basics 02:35:21 theseb_, I'm not sure the Scheme specs are the best place to start learning about the design of the language they aren't exactly written with learning in mind. 02:35:28 (though perhaps a book could be even better) 02:35:29 theseb_: more or less. Racket has some differences, for instance 02:36:10 theseb_: but learning from an implementation would be more useful, since normally an implementation will give you a path to go. If you really do want to learn "pure Scheme" though, I'd recommend you to start with SICP 02:36:11 I would suggest a book like PLAI for learning about implementing simple languages, it takes a ground-up approach and will go into more of what you need to understand how to use and implement a language. 02:36:16 carleastlund: lol :) 02:37:01 Denommus: yea...i remember a Racket guy kept saying it was NOT compatible with Scheme 02:37:09 Denommus: i thought that was odd 02:37:35 theseb_: if you want a compatible scheme, my personal favorite is Chicken Scheme. It has some nice libraries, and the code is translated to C :) 02:38:07 Racket has a few differences from Scheme, but unless your goal is specifically to write code that runs exactly the same on several different implementations, you can pick Racket just as easily as any other Scheme. 02:38:51 k 02:39:02 carleastlund: what does PLAI stand for? 02:39:20 Programming Languages: Application and Interpretation. It's a textbook. See it online at plai.org. 02:40:39 Good after texts like HtDP and SICP if you're going through either of those and want something to follow them up. I think you've been discussing those others, but enough people do on this channel I lose track of who's reading what. 02:40:42 carleastlund: lol...that domain is not up....looks like he's moving registrars unless it died 02:41:11 carleastlund: SICP is very good..i haven't touched HtDP yet but i have that one too 02:41:12 Hmm, maybe I was just mistaken entirely. Anyway, see: http://cs.brown.edu/~sk/Publications/Books/ProgLangs/ 02:41:12 theseb_: I really, really recommend SICP 02:42:29 Denommus: SICP is great for the theory 02:42:40 Denommus: really must be read at least once 02:42:52 to understand programming in general i agree 02:43:06 SICP : "The Structure and Interpretation of Computer Programs" (HTML), (Texinfo), (PDF), (Video lectures) 02:43:33 jerryzhou [~jerryzhou@58.245.253.218] has joined #scheme 02:43:51 -!- jerryzhou [~jerryzhou@58.245.253.218] has quit [Client Quit] 02:44:02 ski: videos too...nice 02:44:11 ok thanks all....must jet now 02:44:16 -!- theseb_ [d807e14e@gateway/web/freenode/ip.216.7.225.78] has quit [Quit: Page closed] 02:54:09 -!- trusktr_ [~trusktr@173-10-14-122-BusName-stockton.hfc.comcastbusiness.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 02:54:42 bsp [~bsp@50.9.41.59] has joined #scheme 02:55:50 -!- carleastlund [~carleastl@209-6-40-238.c3-0.smr-ubr1.sbo-smr.ma.cable.rcn.com] has quit [Quit: carleastlund] 02:56:15 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05:18:01 I wish my uni offered sicpish courses 05:18:46 zacts: Study SICP on your own. 05:18:56 zacts: MIT's lectures are available online. 05:19:24 racycle [~racycle@75-25-129-128.lightspeed.sjcpca.sbcglobal.net] has joined #scheme 05:21:19 yeah, I'm going to do that. 05:22:42 I'm just a bit unsure about starting at my uni. they focus on java and C for many of their bachelor's courses. not, that those are bad, but I'm concerned that they may be focusing more on the languages than general concepts that are important like sicp does. 05:23:28 -!- racycle [~racycle@75-25-129-128.lightspeed.sjcpca.sbcglobal.net] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 05:24:02 That is very possible. 05:24:04 racycle [~racycle@75-25-129-128.lightspeed.sjcpca.sbcglobal.net] has joined #scheme 05:24:12 Do not rely on your schooling for your education. 05:27:55 -!- kobain [~kobian@unaffiliated/kobain] has quit [Quit: El motor por excelencia http://www.europio.org/] 05:29:14 -!- wbooze_ 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C embedding. For Perl .. maybe if Perl has a C API ? 10:36:55 SIOD's also sorta-designed for C embedding, IIRC. 10:37:36 (And I suppose many more standalone-ish ones *can* be used like that.) 10:38:33 chicken does too 10:39:20 perldoc perlembed 10:39:28 taylanub: ^^ 10:39:35 perldoc perlapi 10:41:17 that would be so sweet, I guess I would have to have some glue code to make it work though. 10:41:32 BTW http://wingolog.org/archives/2008/07/10/how-to-choose-between-equivalent-options and http://wingolog.org/archives/2013/01/07/an-opinionated-guide-to-scheme-implementations 10:41:32 http://tinyurl.com/m3rg6w6 10:41:33 http://tinyurl.com/b3fjhzx 10:41:48 ah cool thanks 10:43:24 though thinking about it I don't know how possible this would be. 10:43:27 al 10:44:30 but definitely something I wouldn't mind looking into for a side project.. 10:44:51 but that's down the road for me. 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If you want to learn Programming Languages specifically, PLAI is a more thorough and modern text for that. 13:39:54 jewel [~jewel@105-237-9-188.access.mtnbusiness.co.za] has joined #scheme 13:40:10 SICP has more breadth, but it's a not really a textbook about PL. 13:41:13 deepspawn [~deepspawn@181.48.97.81] has joined #scheme 13:44:11 It's a textbook about SICP, heh 13:47:42 -!- walter [~walter@97-88-38-33.dhcp.roch.mn.charter.com] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 13:48:06 walter [~walter@97-88-38-33.dhcp.roch.mn.charter.com] has joined #scheme 13:52:43 racycle [~racycle@75-25-129-128.lightspeed.sjcpca.sbcglobal.net] has joined #scheme 13:52:54 jao [~jao@208.Red-193-153-230.dynamicIP.rima-tde.net] has joined #scheme 13:52:57 -!- jao [~jao@208.Red-193-153-230.dynamicIP.rima-tde.net] has quit [Changing host] 13:52:57 jao [~jao@pdpc/supporter/professional/jao] has joined #scheme 13:55:31 -!- LAMMJohn1on [~ja@user-5af43cb5.broadband.tesco.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 13:55:36 LAMMJohnson [~ja@user-5af43e18.broadband.tesco.net] has joined #scheme 13:56:58 -!- ccorn [~ccorn@oosteinde.castasoftware.com] has quit [Quit: ccorn] 13:57:56 -!- jewel [~jewel@105-237-9-188.access.mtnbusiness.co.za] has quit [Read error: Connection timed out] 13:58:07 gravicappa [~gravicapp@ppp91-77-177-146.pppoe.mtu-net.ru] has joined #scheme 13:58:36 jewel [~jewel@105-237-9-188.access.mtnbusiness.co.za] has joined #scheme 14:01:18 -!- add^_ [~user@m176-70-3-33.cust.tele2.se] has quit [Quit: ERC Version 5.3 (IRC client for Emacs)] 14:12:02 BW^- [~Miranda@5-15-171-163.residential.rdsnet.ro] has joined #scheme 14:12:12 riastradth: ahhh, right, i heard your name before :))) 14:12:16 re email 5min ago :)) 14:13:03 Hi. 14:19:25 riastradh: i'm very glad to make this connection now - now, i'm not into focusing on this in a strong way right now, however now that i raised it to conversation now - 14:19:44 riastradh: basically i'm looking to understand how to expand macros - syntax-rules primarily, and the syntactic closures secondarily, in a quite mechanistic way 14:20:19 riastradh: i'm not too interested in studying any philosophical aspects but more like an A-B-C kind of stepping through it would be like the most awesome thing :) 14:20:39 riastradh: i didn't see anything like that til now, and, people keep referencing your expander as like a very good, reference-quality expander 14:21:27 theseb [~cs@74.194.237.26] has joined #scheme 14:21:39 riastradh: so i just thought I should ask you for what resources you know that describe this, and, 14:21:47 riastradh: how your implementation can be used to 'get' these things 14:22:19 riastradh: i give attention to it at all, as i'm intererested in probably at some point reimplementing the Black Hole module system for Gambit. 14:22:33 newbie functional programming question.....how would you implement *time varying quantities* without state? ....e.g. population growth, bank account balances, etc.? 14:22:51 The pattern matching stuff is largely orthogonal to hygiene. It's all in synrules.scm. 14:22:55 theseb: just make new structures or closures that contain the result of your new computation 14:23:50 BW^-: hmmm so you have to keep creating a new function to hold the new values? 14:24:37 Someone adapted riaxpander to Gambit a while ago. Doesn't seem to have made its way to mumble.net. Maybe I can dig it up. 14:25:03 BW^-: iterative programming saves on memory by being able to overwrite old values.....not sure in functional land you are allowed to overwrite an old "function" ...unless garbage collection saves the day 14:25:52 riastradh: yeah i'm aware someone ported it. 14:25:55 riastradh: it was announced on its ML 14:26:11 Garbage collection gets rid of the memory for data that won't be used any more. 14:26:14 theseb: Scheme is "almost-functional", meaning that you have mutators too. 14:26:28 theseb: you sound like you're describing something that *has state*, so for that, feel free to mutate! 14:26:59 theseb: the functional stuff gives the blessing of referencial transparency during computation processes and the like, the point with those is not that you should try to not keep state when you are in a situation that absolutely calls for it. 14:27:19 theseb: note also that object allocation in many Schemes is *extremely fast*, as in, without overhead 14:27:32 theseb: so you're talking more or less the same speed as it would have been for you to do an assignment in C. 14:27:59 riastradh: i'd like to understand like, how this implementation process of making an expander like yours, works/is done 14:28:10 riastradh: in an absolutely-non exotic way - the more basic the better :))) 14:28:23 riastradh: if your expander was absolutely full of comments, that would do :)) 14:29:53 Did you read Jonathan Rees's and Alan Bawden's articles? 14:30:28 riastradh: i'll do this. 14:31:01 theseb : "creating a new function to hold the new values" -- or simply just call an existing function with the new values (e.g. calling it recursively (mutually or not)) 14:31:14 riastradh: something that made me think this could bring lots of theory issues was that, after Per worked with Black Hole for like a year or so, 14:31:40 theseb : in case the function is tail-recursive, this will often compile to the same code that an imperative loop that assigned to local mutable variables would 14:31:46 riastradh: he said something like that, "it too me quite a while to understand that " - and then he mentioned some things in syntactic closures terminology, about identifier equality or something - 14:32:10 riastradh: and it made it appear to me like that implementing SC would require of me to read the papers *and* think for a year 14:33:17 ski: ah yes..tail recursion 14:33:20 riastradh: very well, i should have a look at the papers. 14:33:38 ski: thanks 14:33:43 theseb: note also that when you create a new function etc., the compiler could (at least theoretically) internally optimize this so that it becomes a mutation 14:33:57 BW^-: beautiful.... 14:34:02 i like it 14:34:54 riastradh: which paper/articles are for syntax-rules , and which for syntactic closures? 14:36:26 The Lisp Pointers article is about the quickest and simplest way to get hygiene, explicit renaming. The Bawden/Rees article is about a generalization, syntactic closures. I didn't point at any articles about syntax-rules, which is just a pattern matching mechanism and doesn't have anything to do with hygiene. 14:37:10 kobain [~kobian@unaffiliated/kobain] has joined #scheme 14:40:30 theseb : often, what you might initially think (assuming you're used to imperative programming with gratuitous mutation) requires mutation (or at least requires it, to be legible) can actually be written nicely and clearly without mutation 14:41:36 stamourv [~user@racket/stamourv] has joined #scheme 14:42:38 -!- stamourv [~user@racket/stamourv] has quit [Client Quit] 14:43:25 -!- stamourv` is now known as stamourv 14:43:39 -!- stamourv [~user@ahuntsic.ccs.neu.edu] has quit [Changing host] 14:43:39 stamourv [~user@racket/stamourv] has joined #scheme 14:43:53 riastradh: where could I find like a simple guide to syntax-rules and how to expand it? 14:45:28 -!- andrei [~user@c-98-222-203-85.hsd1.in.comcast.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 14:45:37 andrei [~user@c-98-222-203-85.hsd1.in.comcast.net] has joined #scheme 14:46:25 ski: so ever apps that seem to scream for state like a database app can still be elegantly done in functional land? 14:46:43 -!- wingo [~wingo@cha74-2-88-160-190-192.fbx.proxad.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 14:46:49 ski: s/ever/even 14:47:58 well, a database is supposed to track changes in an external time, coming from multiple concurrent sources 14:48:28 (but perhaps even that could be done with uniqueness, i'm not sure) 14:49:20 but i was mostly thinking about cases where there is no state in the problem domain, but where there may or may not be mutation in the implementing algorithm 14:49:36 -!- andrei [~user@c-98-222-203-85.hsd1.in.comcast.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 14:49:49 andrei` [~user@98.222.203.85] has joined #scheme 14:49:50 BW^-, synrules.scm in riaxpander will do it. 14:58:56 riastradh: aha nice. what input and output formats does your expander use, just sexp? 14:59:44 Input, S-expressions (with syntactic closures). 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