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(cdr v) 'a) 03:49:26 *offby1: Done. 03:49:29 rudybot: v 03:49:29 *offby1: ; Value: (mcons (mcons 'ignored) (mcons 'a)) 03:49:33 *offby1* rubs chin 03:49:55 (ignore the "mcons"; that's racket's odd way of saying OMG A Mutable Konz) 03:50:37 teleScope: can you paste the complete code that created that list? 03:54:21 -!- Triclops256 is now known as Triclops256|away 03:54:51 -!- Triclops256|away is now known as Triclops256 03:58:14 adiii [~adityavit@c-76-117-52-187.hsd1.nj.comcast.net] has joined #scheme 04:02:45 -!- jlongster [~user@pool-96-238-181-209.rcmdva.fios.verizon.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 04:06:32 offby1: http://paste.lisp.org/display/137519 04:07:42 ah. q has two pointers to _the same cons cell_. 04:07:54 So when you mutate that cell, both pointers naturally point to the new contents. 04:08:09 rudybot: (define end (cons 'ignored '())) 04:08:10 *offby1: Done. 04:08:13 rudybot: (define q (cons end end)) 04:08:13 *offby1: Done. 04:08:16 rudybot: (define v 'a) 04:08:16 *offby1: Done. 04:08:20 rudybot: (set-car! (cdr q) v) 04:08:20 *offby1: Done. 04:08:26 rudybot: q 04:08:27 *offby1: ; Value: (mcons #0=(mcons 'a) #0#) 04:08:36 heh 04:08:55 that's another odd format, but it's saying "this cons cell holds two copies of the same value" 04:09:54 -!- Triclops256 is now known as Triclops256|away 04:10:05 tenkyuu [~tenqnewse@ip68-100-228-234.dc.dc.cox.net] has joined #scheme 04:10:47 jlongster [~user@pool-96-238-181-209.rcmdva.fios.verizon.net] has joined #scheme 04:13:15 -!- tenq [~tenqnewse@ip68-100-228-234.dc.dc.cox.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 04:16:42 -!- jlongster [~user@pool-96-238-181-209.rcmdva.fios.verizon.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 04:17:07 offby1: thx, but what is the concept pointer, i'm new to lisp 04:17:51 -!- tenkyuu is now known as tenq 04:18:15 -!- tenq [~tenqnewse@ip68-100-228-234.dc.dc.cox.net] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 04:18:33 tenq [~tenqnewse@ip68-100-228-234.dc.dc.cox.net] has joined #scheme 04:21:04 -!- Triclops256|away is now known as 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http://www.eecs.berkeley.edu/~bh/downloads/simply/ 21:59:56 yeah 21:59:58 thanks 22:00:05 use guile-2.0 also 22:00:20 shit i have the old one 22:00:23 it breaks racket for some reason 22:00:33 well you can try it with guile-1.8, but I haven't tested it 22:00:57 damn 22:00:59 i just installed 2.0 22:01:05 ah ok 22:01:12 and removed 1.6 22:01:12 2.0 will work for sure 22:01:21 plus 2.0 is better anyway 22:01:29 how do i load that code? 22:02:12 man guile 22:02:15 k 22:02:17 you can do -l simply.scm 22:02:25 or there are other ways to do it 22:02:29 cool 22:02:42 in the REPL you can do (load "/path/to/simply.scm") iirc 22:02:52 got it working 22:02:56 awesome! 22:04:39 this is awesome 22:05:01 you aren't just computing numbers, you are computing ideas and concepts 22:05:58 yep 22:11:12 -!- jao [~jao@pdpc/supporter/professional/jao] has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 22:17:01 -!- civodul [~user@reverse-83.fdn.fr] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 22:17:21 eni 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