00:00:44 -!- aranhoide [~smuxi@104.Red-81-32-187.dynamicIP.rima-tde.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 00:02:26 adu, did you found the info pages? 00:02:45 no, not for MIT scheme 00:03:15 they don't seem to be installed with the mac binary download 00:03:44 I'm just trying to play around with cells and propagators 00:04:11 maybe this could help, http://www.gnu.org/software/mit-scheme/ 00:04:25 see Documentation section, are html 00:04:44 and seems to be pdf too 00:05:40 this is what i was talking about, http://www.gnu.org/software/mit-scheme/documentation/mit-scheme-user/GNU-Emacs-Interface.html#GNU-Emacs-Interface 00:05:41 http://tinyurl.com/3htgg8 00:06:35 rszeno: oh know I've been looking at it, I usually read the info pages online anyways 00:07:00 I have no trouble finding the documentation online 00:07:03 me too, :) 00:07:17 ok 00:07:29 anyways, it's all working now, I just have to figure out Alexey Radul's magic 00:08:05 -!- miql [~miql@ip72-201-117-127.ph.ph.cox.net] has 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just get in there? 01:46:34 Yes, what of it? 01:46:44 The deadline is noon May 21 UTC. 01:47:04 im looking in my hitchikers guide to the galaxy and i believe this is what they refer to as.. 'humor' 01:47:34 And this is what they refer to as "ironical obtuseness" 02:00:48 -!- trusktr [~trusktr@130.86.99.179] has quit [Read error: Operation timed out] 02:36:01 hi jcowan 02:36:07 hey ho 02:36:14 go and vote 02:36:20 :) 02:36:38 so I voted, unless there was another draft 02:37:08 Nope, only one draft. 02:37:11 also, can I make an editorial change to my vote? 02:37:16 Sure. 02:37:30 Just send another email with the edit in it 02:38:07 jcowan: ah ok 02:38:22 I would like to remove the words "and hashtables" 02:38:30 that's all 02:38:41 everything else is correct 02:38:56 from http://lists.scheme-reports.org/pipermail/scheme-reports/2013-April/003323.html 02:38:57 http://tinyurl.com/ak63tah 02:39:12 Unfortunately I can't edit the archive in place 02:39:16 right 02:39:24 -!- jonrafkind [~jon@racket/jonrafkind] has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 02:39:45 But I added those words to PlebisciteIndex 02:41:37 adu: I just posted a very preliminary hash-table proposal (messy, un-detailed, but shows all the procedures). Wanna take a quick look and tell me what you think? 02:41:46 http://trac.sacrideo.us/wg/wiki/HashTablesCowan 02:41:47 sure 02:45:55 -!- Fare [~fare@173-9-65-97-NewEngland.hfc.comcastbusiness.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 02:46:18 -!- dsmith [~dsmith@cpe-184-56-129-232.neo.res.rr.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 02:49:05 jcowan: http://lists.scheme-reports.org/pipermail/scheme-reports/2013-May/003456.html 02:49:05 http://tinyurl.com/bgwnpqq 02:49:13 jcowan: on http://trac.sacrideo.us/wg/wiki/InputDocket, what does "External representation of records" refer to? something like Python's repr? 02:51:09 Possibly, but it might be just a fixed format like CL's #S(key value key value) 02:51:21 ah, ok 02:51:47 Currently, there is just no way to I/O a record in Scheme 02:51:48 -!- MrFahrenheit [~RageOfTho@77.221.25.95] has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 02:51:55 jcowan, is not a bad idea to add 'key' where it operate with keys? for example (hash-table-exists? table key) to be (hash-table-key-exists? table key) or something like that 02:52:37 is a detail in fact, :) 02:52:44 It's a standard SRFI 69 name. I try not to change those unless they are obviously random 02:52:54 Of course the hash table exists! That name is silly. 02:53:03 oops, :) 02:53:50 in the end is a name, who is using it will now what it mean 02:55:11 jcowan: on first glance, I would say that it's would be pretty easy to make your own constructors, such as (define (alist->eqv-string-hash-table . args) (apply alist->hash-table eqv? string-hash args)) 02:55:59 or s/eqv/equal/ whatever 02:57:05 You just have to be careful not to violate the hash-function invariant. 02:58:38 jcowan: would a less offensive notation for bytevectors-as-string-like-thingies be a suitable proposal for R7RS-large? something equivalent to Python's b"ascii-or-\xFF" 02:58:45 other thing i often need is to get a pair key value, accesor 02:59:11 dpk: Offhand, I'd say yes. 02:59:27 rszeno: I don't understand. 02:59:28 Fare [fare@nat/google/x-uwoxzyhczhdjsbfl] has joined #scheme 03:00:27 String hash tables are easy and generally a bad idea over balanced binary trees or radix trees. How about ephemeral object hash tables? 03:00:39 (hash-table-ref table key) return the value for the key 03:00:42 Ephemerons are out of scope 03:00:53 rszeno: I have that. 03:01:01 Why? 03:01:14 Not biting off more than I can chew at once. 03:01:29 dsmith [~dsmith@cpe-184-56-129-232.neo.res.rr.com] has joined #scheme 03:01:33 This will be the "intermediate" hash table proposal, where SRFI 69 and R6RS count as "basic". 03:01:38 ofcourse i already know the key so i can build a pair after that but i liked to have both, :) 03:01:50 I think the whole R7RS thing has bitten off more than it can chew...might as well make something nontrivially useful of it. 03:03:28 or ability to pass a custom way to retrive results 03:04:08 jcowan: are any of those hashtable arguments optional? 03:04:50 dpk: I'm a big fan of Racket's #"hello" 03:05:16 weie [~eie@softbank221078042071.bbtec.net] has joined #scheme 03:05:39 *dpk* was indeed considering something like that 03:05:43 preflex_ [~preflex@unaffiliated/mauke/bot/preflex] has joined #scheme 03:06:23 -!- preflex [~preflex@unaffiliated/mauke/bot/preflex] has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 03:06:28 -!- preflex_ is now known as preflex 03:06:37 jcowan: and how hard would it be to call hash-table-ref's failure if it's a procedure with no arguments, and simply return "failure" if it's not a procedure 03:07:11 or (const x) for a procedure that always returns x 03:07:17 How do you distinguish whether the caller wants to return a procedure or call a procedure? 03:07:45 Such conditionals make APIs painful to reason about and use reliably. 03:07:50 jcowan: that would get rid of hash-table-ref/default 03:09:15 *dpk* agrees with adu in principle, but agrees with Riastradh on the trickiness of that 03:09:30 jeapostrophe [~jay@69.169.141.110.provo.static.broadweavenetworks.net] has joined #scheme 03:09:30 -!- jeapostrophe [~jay@69.169.141.110.provo.static.broadweavenetworks.net] has quit [Changing host] 03:09:30 jeapostrophe [~jay@racket/jeapostrophe] has joined #scheme 03:10:09 In practice, you usually want either a default value or a pair of continuations. 03:13:14 Racket actually does that overloading, but it's safe there, because procedures don't have identity. 03:13:32 So there can't be a procedure in a hash table. 03:14:05 ? 03:14:10 poo, how about (hash-table-ref hash-table key default? failure? success?) that way when failure is given, default becomes it's first argument 03:14:21 s/poo/oo/ 03:15:36 I'm actually using hash tables in my scheme2go compiler, so I could try using that interface and see how it feels 03:17:32 jcowan: I agree that procedures can't be keys, but I think they can be values, except for hash-table=? which requires value= 03:18:05 Yeah, brain fart on my part. 03:18:07 -!- permagreen [~donovan@204.195.27.175] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 03:18:16 R7RS-small is reverting to R5RS semantics with procedure identity. 03:18:31 yayyyyyy  03:18:32 what? 03:19:18 also, I can see lots of people using hash tables to represent methods 03:19:21 dnolen` [~user@cpe-72-225-195-108.nyc.res.rr.com] has joined #scheme 03:19:35 Yes, what Racket does just isn't right. 03:19:51 how does Racket do it? 03:19:52 permagreen [~donovan@204-195-27-175.wavecable.com] has joined #scheme 03:19:54 But we found a whole list of standard Scheme things that R6RS semantics breaks. 03:20:09 Failure argument is a default if not a procedure, which means the default can't be a procedure. 03:21:10 but if there was a const procedure or a thunk syntax, then that could be written (const x) or (thunk x) 03:21:36 True, and in fact that's how SRFI 69 defines the /default functions 03:22:04 and if it's that simple, then do we really need /default? 03:22:40 i suppose if it's in R7RS-large, then we definitely need it 03:23:04 -large is about "the working programmer", who's always in a hurry. 03:23:08 all of this would be solved with keywords 03:24:26 If he's in a hurry he won't be waiting for the R7RS; he'll use any of a zillion tools that is already implemented and works... 03:25:39 I'm dancing as fast as I can. 03:26:28 lol 03:29:33 -!- jao [~jao@pdpc/supporter/professional/jao] has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 03:30:48 -!- Myk267 [~myk@unaffiliated/myk267] has quit [Quit: Ack! 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13:58:52 stamourv``: or are all integers interned, given (eq? 1000000 1000000) => #t 14:01:51 -!- snowylike [~sn@91-67-171-156-dynip.superkabel.de] has quit [Quit: Nettalk6 - www.ntalk.de] 14:05:45 -!- wbooze [~wbooze@xdsl-78-35-175-226.netcologne.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 14:07:02 leppie: `hash' uses `equal?'. 14:07:14 There's also `hasheq' and `hasheqv'. 14:07:25 stamourv: thanks :) 14:07:31 IMO, this should have been `hash' + a keyword argument. 14:07:42 *stamourv* <3 keyword arguments. 14:08:10 Does the wg1 draft have them? 14:08:33 stamourv: not that i recall 14:09:10 there wasn't a hope in hell of that happening 14:09:19 -!- adiii [~adityavit@c-76-117-52-187.hsd1.nj.comcast.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 14:09:20 *stamourv* facepalms. 14:09:37 Did they add anything at all? 14:09:50 stamourv: list-copy ;p 14:09:51 IIRC, there aren't any procedural macros either. 14:10:18 leppie: Meh. Pairs should be immutable anyway. 14:10:18 modules+exceptions (not r6rs compatible) 14:10:34 Modules without phases, right? 14:10:42 right 14:10:51 *stamourv* facepalms again. 14:11:32 -!- rszeno [~rszeno@79.114.100.153] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 14:12:25 leppie: string-map too :) 14:12:45 I think I've used that a grand total of 1 time 14:12:46 wingo: I can see much use for that 14:12:55 wingo: Really? 14:13:04 stamourv: :) 14:13:14 how about that controversial 'filter' procedure? 14:13:34 *wingo* tries really hard not to snark, fails 14:13:48 the wg1 draft is a better r5rs. i still think that. 14:13:50 stamourv: and (map values '(1 2 3)) may or may not return a copy of the list... 14:14:01 wingo: Maybe, but the question is, do we need that? 14:14:22 stamourv: for me, the answer is unequivocally no; but that's not what the draft has. 14:14:48 Fare [~fare@173-9-65-97-NewEngland.hfc.comcastbusiness.net] has joined #scheme 14:15:45 *stamourv* shrugs and goes back to hacking in Racket. 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