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This is something that happens to me very often when reading such code. I presume it's normal, since the code is intentionally obscure, but does anyone have tips for how to overcome this ? 11:14:59 fringe simulates a generator 11:15:57 at least, I think it does 11:20:20 taylanub: I suggest playing around with it for a while e.g. try turning fringen into a function of 3 arguments, instead of a function of two, that return a function of 1 11:23:31 judicious use of ` and , can also be useful when dealing with higher order functions 11:24:02 for example 11:24:07 rudybot: (require srfi/1) 11:24:08 ijp: your sandbox is ready 11:24:09 ijp: Done. 11:24:29 rudybot: (fold-right (lambda (a b) `(f ,a ,b)) 'x '(1 2 3)) 11:24:29 ijp: ; Value: '(f 1 (f 2 (f 3 x))) 11:25:05 i.e. you can get it to "unroll" the execution for you 11:30:04 amgarchIn9 [~amgarchin@p4FD612EE.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #scheme 11:33:53 rudybot: (define gen (fringe '(a (b . c) d . e))) 11:33:53 ijp: Done. 11:33:57 rudybot: (gen list) 11:33:58 ijp: ; Value: '(a #) 11:34:18 rudybot: ((cadr (gen list)) list) 11:34:18 ijp: ; Value: '(b #) 11:34:31 (define (gen->list var next) (if (equal? var '(exhausted)) '() (cons var (next gen->list)))) 11:34:35 rudybot: (define (gen->list var next) (if (equal? var '(exhausted)) '() (cons var (next gen->list)))) 11:34:36 ijp: Done. 11:34:42 (gen gen->list) 11:34:46 rudybot: (gen gen->list) 11:34:46 ijp: ; Value: '(a b c d e) 11:35:56 taylanub: here, the trick is that the generator is not returning two values as modern schemes do 11:36:07 it instead returns a procedure, that you call to get the values 11:36:23 OK 11:36:59 Ah, thinking of it like that makes things clearer already. 11:38:04 -!- tali713 [~tali713@2001:0:53aa:64c:1896:64db:b3ee:137e] has quit [Quit: ZNC - http://znc.in] 11:38:26 tali713 [~tali713@2001:0:53aa:64c:1896:64db:b3ee:137e] has joined #scheme 11:42:27 -!- amgarchIn9 [~amgarchin@p4FD612EE.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 11:47:44 noam__ [~noam@213.57.201.130] has joined #scheme 11:50:49 -!- noam_ [~noam@213.57.201.130] has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 11:55:51 -!- bjz [~brendanza@125.253.99.68] has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 11:56:12 ski [~na@t-2020-07.studat.chalmers.se] has joined #scheme 11:56:53 -!- wbooze [~wbooze@xdsl-78-35-186-70.netcologne.de] has quit [Quit: none] 11:58:21 -!- tali713 [~tali713@2001:0:53aa:64c:1896:64db:b3ee:137e] has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 11:59:48 groovy2shoes [~guv@unaffiliated/groovebot] has joined #scheme 12:00:27 -!- trusktr [~trusktr@c-71-193-54-200.hsd1.ca.comcast.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 12:04:56 tali713 [~tali713@2001:0:53aa:64c:1896:64db:b3ee:137e] has joined #scheme 12:09:36 -!- tali713 [~tali713@2001:0:53aa:64c:1896:64db:b3ee:137e] has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 12:14:51 -!- przl [~przlrkt@p5B29829F.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 12:18:51 eni [~eni@gob75-5-82-230-88-217.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #scheme 12:37:19 agumonkey [~agu@97.217.72.86.rev.sfr.net] has joined #scheme 12:40:51 Riastradh [~riastradh@fsf/member/riastradh] has joined #scheme 12:40:59 przl [~przlrkt@p5B29829F.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #scheme 12:48:11 garjola [~user@139.202.68.86.rev.sfr.net] has joined #scheme 12:49:53 taylanub: the trick is: not minding 12:50:56 rudybot: Excuse me ? 12:50:57 taylanub: or it's still an excuse to play? 12:51:09 Lawrence? 12:51:39 Riastradh: very good sir 12:51:57 *taylanub* looks around confused. 12:52:11 Although I tend to think of Robert Redford in "All the President's Men", quoting G. Gordon Liddy, who himself was quoting "Lawrence of Arabia" 12:52:40 rudybot: botsnack 12:52:41 yay! 12:52:58 taylanub: what you don't know is that it's 5:30 AM, my semi-insane neighbourcat has woken me up; I don't trust him not to poop on the rug, so I'm semi-awake keeping an eye on him. 12:53:11 Naturally I amuse myself by trolling innocents in #scheme 12:53:15 I mean, wouldn't you? 12:53:18 I would 12:53:51 I'd probably be using rudybot to do it as well 12:54:00 wbooze [~wbooze@xdsl-78-35-186-70.netcologne.de] has joined #scheme 12:54:17 yes, you probably would 12:54:21 Hahaha. 12:54:37 we need a sock-puppet in East Asia, to round out the time-zone coverage. 12:54:55 I should move to Japan. 12:55:21 Where's foof when you need him to make obscure quotations from David Lean epics? 12:55:25 hmm, foof could, but I'm not sure he is much into the sock-puppeting ircbots thing 12:55:32 rudybot: seen foof 12:55:32 ijp: foof was seen joining in #scheme ten weeks ago, and then foof was seen quitting in li126-140.members.linode.com ten weeks ago, saying "Quit: ERC Version 5.3 (IRC client for Emacs)" 12:55:50 .. Is that where the name "foof-loop" comes from ? 12:56:46 I assume it was called that because riastradh-loop was too verbose 12:56:49 -!- wbooze [~wbooze@xdsl-78-35-186-70.netcologne.de] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 12:57:08 doesn't have the same marketing appeal 12:57:24 Eh ? Did they co-author it, or what ?.. 12:57:35 wbooze [~wbooze@xdsl-78-35-186-70.netcologne.de] has joined #scheme 12:57:36 Yes, taylanub. foof designed the crux of it, and then I took that crux and reimplemented it, and didn't think of a better name before `foof-loop' stuck. 12:57:45 Ah, OK. 12:57:56 foof's implementation is not called foof-loop. I think he called it loopy-loop or something. 12:58:07 I've been trying to figure out what "foof" might stand for, always forgetting to ask. :P 12:58:36 pentium F00F bug, I think 12:58:40 Do people use the identifier `foof-loop' in code, or is there another preference ? 12:59:11 loop 12:59:31 OK, nice. 12:59:49 -!- wbooze [~wbooze@xdsl-78-35-186-70.netcologne.de] has quit [Client Quit] 13:00:56 Well, that's awfully disappointing. The only quote the IMDb lists for _Hobson's Choice_ is `By gum.'. 13:03:16 -!- Euthy [~euthy@unaffiliated/euthydemus] has quit [Read error: Operation timed out] 13:07:52 Hrm, on page 25 of R7RS-small draft 9, is the "" in the template "(rename ( ) ...)" a mistake ? Because all other templates just use "". 13:07:54 wbooze [~wbooze@xdsl-78-35-186-70.netcologne.de] has joined #scheme 13:08:25 (And I see no or anything.) 13:08:43 Sounds like a typo to me. 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Some Schemes provide a letrec* which is similar to let*, in that it goes in order 16:33:25 ok, so letrec and define provide the same logics then - neat! 16:33:31 rudybot: eval (letrec ((one (lambda () two)) (two 2)) (one)) 16:33:31 Riastradh: your sandbox is ready 16:33:31 Riastradh: ; Value: 2 16:33:36 BW^-: that isn't quite correct 16:33:49 ijp: in what respect? 16:34:35 (letrec ((one two) (two 2)) one) 16:34:50 rudybot: (letrec ((one two) (two 2)) one) 16:34:50 BW^-: your sandbox is ready 16:34:51 BW^-: ; Value: # 16:34:54 right. 16:35:03 ihp: well that's quite exactly what define does isn't it? 16:35:13 I forget how the r5rs words it, but in general, inner defines are done in left-to-right order 16:35:23 i mean, a facility for making zero or more defines (when you make a sequence of them) with no guaranteed evaluation order 16:35:39 ijp: i don't think so? 16:35:39 rudybot: eval (let () (define one two) (define two 2) one) 16:35:39 ski: your sandbox is ready 16:35:40 ski: ; Value: # 16:35:55 at least what i learned is that defines in local scopes *not* are in left to right order necessarily 16:35:58 In the R5RS, LETREC and internal definitions are equivalent. 16:35:58 while in the global scope they are 16:36:12 riastradh: neat! yep got it 16:36:19 okay, so riastradh confirms. From the r5rs point of view they are equivalent 16:36:29 but from r6rs onwards they are not 16:36:30 right 16:36:36 i guess this coincides with R7RS too, no? 16:36:40 Top-level definitions are evaluated and initialized sequentially. 16:36:46 and of course, schemes are not known for paying close attention to the standard 16:36:48 ijp: how are they different in R7RS? 16:37:01 letrec* vs letrec 16:39:08 ijp: what do you mean? 16:39:19 BW^-: in r6rs and r7rs, I can rely on left-to-right execution for internal defines 16:39:21 ijp: so, internal defines and letrec have undefined evaluation order in R5RS. 16:39:27 aha 16:39:30 hm 16:39:56 ijp: but in R7RS, letrec keeps the same behavior as in R5RS? 16:40:12 indeed 16:40:30 aha noted. very well, sounds like it makes good sense. 16:40:30 the difference it that internal defines are no longer equivalent to letrec, but letrec* 16:40:38 right 16:41:07 what are the other key difference about R7RS vs R5RS like this? i mean, other than like, removing |transcript-on| 16:41:17 and introducing some kind of module form 16:41:27 I don't know, and frankly I stopped caring at the fourth draft 16:41:42 k 16:44:01 -!- groovy2shoes [~guv@unaffiliated/groovebot] has quit [Quit: groovy2shoes] 16:57:11 -!- zacts [~blueberry@unaffiliated/zacts] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 16:57:58 zacts [~blueberry@174-28-168-9.albq.qwest.net] has joined #scheme 16:58:59 -!- wbooze [~wbooze@xdsl-78-35-186-70.netcologne.de] has quit [Quit: none] 16:59:35 wbooze [~wbooze@xdsl-78-35-186-70.netcologne.de] has joined #scheme 17:04:10 -!- przl [~przlrkt@p5B29829F.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 17:13:49 kilimanjaro [~kilimanja@unaffiliated/kilimanjaro] has joined #scheme 17:16:18 -!- wbooze [~wbooze@xdsl-78-35-186-70.netcologne.de] has quit [Quit: none] 17:17:14 -!- BW^- [~Miranda@5-15-168-245.residential.rdsnet.ro] has quit [Quit: Miranda IM! Smaller, Faster, Easier. http://miranda-im.org] 17:18:50 wbooze [~wbooze@xdsl-78-35-186-70.netcologne.de] has joined #scheme 17:19:44 -!- wbooze [~wbooze@xdsl-78-35-186-70.netcologne.de] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 17:21:08 -!- zacts [~blueberry@174-28-168-9.albq.qwest.net] has quit [Changing host] 17:21:08 zacts [~blueberry@unaffiliated/zacts] has joined #scheme 17:21:59 wbooze [~wbooze@xdsl-78-35-186-70.netcologne.de] has joined #scheme 17:32:07 przl [~przlrkt@p5B29829F.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #scheme 17:32:27 Euthy [~euthy@unaffiliated/euthydemus] has joined #scheme 17:32:56 -!- Regis__ is now known as GOMADWarrior 17:35:26 -!- snowylike [~sn@91-67-171-156-dynip.superkabel.de] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 17:38:39 Could one change the primitives of some implementation into Esperanto and still meet the standard? I just started writing an introductory text in Esperanto and I've found it a bit awkward that all the implementations I can find have commands in English, especially since the reason I wanted to learn Esperanto to start is that there was "no" cultural bias. :-P 17:40:16 amgarchIn9 [~amgarchin@p4FD612EE.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #scheme 17:46:31 why change the implementation? you have modules, this is a simple library that does renaming. 17:47:15 Nisstyre-laptop [~yours@oftn/member/Nisstyre] has joined #scheme 17:48:11 dane [~dane@178-223-62-196.dynamic.isp.telekom.rs] has joined #scheme 17:49:08 this is one of the advantages of not having reserved keywords 17:49:10 ijp: More-so that I see it being more problematic to take an existing implementation and too keep it up to date, compatible, and give easy instructions how to obtain and/or enable such a thing, than writing a tiny implementation just for this singular purpose? That being said, my thought process may be entirely off, but as it stands now, it still kind-of goes against the idealistic fashion in-which I choose to learn Esperanto. 17:49:43 writing a new implementation is easier than writing a list of (*english-id* *esperanto-id*) ? 17:49:45 Is your idealism OK with a eurocentric Scheme? 17:50:05 I know writing a scheme isn't considered a challenge, but I think this is an overoptimistic assessment 17:51:13 -!- BossKonaSegwaY [~Michael@cpe-75-187-45-52.columbus.res.rr.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 17:51:14 BossKonaSegwaY1 [~Michael@cpe-75-187-45-52.columbus.res.rr.com] has joined #scheme 17:52:00 ijp: I'm guessing more-so it's not technically easier, as-much as I'm not sure how to do it without exposing the native language of that implementation and not having a complete beginner have the semi-large problem of having to compile a certain branch and/or apply a patch themselves. :-P 17:53:30 Regis__ [~Regis@189.34.44.144] has joined #scheme 17:54:08 do whatever you like, but I think you are being silly 17:54:30 wingo [~wingo@cha74-2-88-160-190-192.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #scheme 17:54:59 youlysses: that kind of thing can be done with a library, no need to patch the base system 17:55:21 -!- BossKonaSegwaY1 [~Michael@cpe-75-187-45-52.columbus.res.rr.com] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 17:55:59 BossKonaSegwaY [~Michael@cpe-75-187-45-52.columbus.res.rr.com] has joined #scheme 17:56:17 -!- GOMADWarrior [~Regis@189.34.44.144] has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 17:56:56 DerGuteMoritz: Yeah I get ya, but my issue is not how one can do-so though, it's not exposing the user to any English pretense before hand to get there. Which, like ijp said, it might be a bit silly, and/or overidealistic, but hey. :-P 17:57:12 gravicappa [~gravicapp@ppp91-77-184-161.pppoe.mtu-net.ru] has joined #scheme 17:59:07 youlysses: what English pretense would be required do you think? 18:00:40 -!- wbooze [~wbooze@xdsl-78-35-186-70.netcologne.de] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 18:00:44 DerGuteMoritz: It's not huge, by any means, but how would one go about enabling it as a new-user in a manner, without having to go though and be exposed to the english-primitives and/or commands beforehand? 18:01:06 -!- rrradical [~rrradical@209-6-197-118.c3-0.smr-ubr2.sbo-smr.ma.cable.rcn.com] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 18:02:14 *through 18:02:26 wbooze [~wbooze@xdsl-78-35-186-70.netcologne.de] has joined #scheme 18:02:27 youlysses: well you will have to use some non-Esperanto program to obtain, build and install the Scheme system beforehand, of course 18:03:30 DerGuteMoritz: Yes, and in my current (admittedly over-idealistic) thought processes, this is the limiting factor in going this route. :-P 18:03:31 same for obtaining and installing the library 18:03:42 -!- wbooze [~wbooze@xdsl-78-35-186-70.netcologne.de] has quit [Client Quit] 18:03:46 toekutr [~user@32.sub-174-253-225.myvzw.com] has joined #scheme 18:04:00 youlysses: write one script, that 1) runs $scheme 2) loads your (esperanto) library 18:04:42 the only other thing is to use gettext to translate the program strings 18:05:00 ijp: That's actually a fairly decent, simple, solution. 18:05:15 -!- toekutr [~user@32.sub-174-253-225.myvzw.com] has left #scheme 18:09:22 wbooze [~wbooze@xdsl-78-35-186-70.netcologne.de] has joined #scheme 18:09:52 -!- walter|rtn [~walter@c-24-218-217-69.hsd1.ma.comcast.net] has quit [Quit: This computer has gone to sleep] 18:11:31 -!- wbooze [~wbooze@xdsl-78-35-186-70.netcologne.de] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 18:11:55 so is data really just defined by the functions that use the data, which themselves implement said behaviors? 18:12:22 meaning - data is meaningless without the operations that use the data. 18:12:45 ijp: I'll definitely take that into consideration, but you haven't swayed me yet... :-) 18:13:48 wbooze [~wbooze@xdsl-78-35-186-70.netcologne.de] has joined #scheme 18:13:56 I can also offer you a wide range of aggressive-toned responses or a range of slyly derogatory remarks, if you'd prefer that method of convincing 18:14:48 zacts: uninterpreted data is wasted data 18:15:07 Every datum's interpreted; every datum's great. If a datum's wasted, God gets quite irate! 18:15:23 -!- Regis__ is now known as GOMADWarrior 18:15:34 I'm sorry, I didn't prepare for a musical number 18:16:18 *ijp* tap dances in a feeble but distracting manner 18:16:44 ijp: I'm good. As it stands, it's going to be more-or-less a last minute change, before the release. All the examples should stay the same, any way I approach it. :-P 18:20:58 -!- dane [~dane@178-223-62-196.dynamic.isp.telekom.rs] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 18:21:01 -!- wbooze [~wbooze@xdsl-78-35-186-70.netcologne.de] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 18:21:37 wbooze [~wbooze@xdsl-78-35-186-70.netcologne.de] has joined #scheme 18:23:46 dane [~dane@178-223-62-196.dynamic.isp.telekom.rs] has joined #scheme 18:23:56 -!- wbooze [~wbooze@xdsl-78-35-186-70.netcologne.de] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 18:24:51 wbooze [~wbooze@xdsl-78-35-186-70.netcologne.de] has joined #scheme 18:27:39 walter [~walter@c-24-218-217-69.hsd1.ma.comcast.net] has joined #scheme 18:27:39 -!- Nisstyre-laptop [~yours@oftn/member/Nisstyre] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 18:28:19 Nisstyre-laptop [~yours@oftn/member/Nisstyre] has joined #scheme 18:28:33 -!- jonrafkind [~jon@racket/jonrafkind] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 18:28:40 -!- amgarchIn9 [~amgarchin@p4FD612EE.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 18:33:48 -!- wbooze [~wbooze@xdsl-78-35-186-70.netcologne.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 18:35:29 trusktr [~trusktr@c-71-193-54-200.hsd1.ca.comcast.net] has joined #scheme 18:37:17 -!- GOMADWarrior [~Regis@189.34.44.144] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 18:39:29 gabnet [~gabnet@ACaen-652-1-194-14.w83-115.abo.wanadoo.fr] has joined #scheme 18:41:46 wbooze [~wbooze@xdsl-78-35-186-70.netcologne.de] has joined #scheme 18:42:30 -!- wbooze [~wbooze@xdsl-78-35-186-70.netcologne.de] has quit [Client Quit] 18:43:12 wbooze [~wbooze@xdsl-78-35-186-70.netcologne.de] has joined #scheme 18:44:00 -!- wbooze [~wbooze@xdsl-78-35-186-70.netcologne.de] has quit [Client Quit] 18:50:54 -!- Triclops256|away is now known as Triclops256 18:58:17 -!- gabnet [~gabnet@ACaen-652-1-194-14.w83-115.abo.wanadoo.fr] has quit [Quit: Ex-Chat] 18:58:23 -!- acedia [~rage@unaffiliated/ffs] has quit [Quit: And when I disappear into the night and out of the fear] 18:59:47 dionmarcill [~maden@dsl-66-36-130-105.mtl.aei.ca] has joined #scheme 19:00:00 wbooze [~wbooze@xdsl-78-35-186-70.netcologne.de] has joined #scheme 19:01:01 civodul [~user@reverse-83.fdn.fr] has joined #scheme 19:01:47 youlysses: If the point is to have no cultural bias, I'm afraid Esperanto is the wrong choice, since it's basically a European language. 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