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Thanks :) 00:10:58 juxovec [~juxovec@94-74-228-90.client.rionet.cz] has joined #scheme 00:15:43 -!- juxovec [~juxovec@94-74-228-90.client.rionet.cz] has quit [Ping timeout: 258 seconds] 00:19:17 adu_ [~ajr@pool-173-66-11-197.washdc.fios.verizon.net] has joined #scheme 00:20:42 -!- SgeoOnLessDenseW is now known as Sgeo 00:21:18 walter [~walter@ip-64-134-101-130.public.wayport.net] has joined #scheme 00:21:26 -!- walter|r [~walter@ip-64-134-101-130.public.wayport.net] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 00:28:44 cinolt, are few problems, variables names, substitution and reduction 00:29:57 rszeno: understand do not, english please proper 00:30:05 if you can't use the tree structure of the expression for some particular cases for the general case is complicated 00:30:40 sorry my english is as it is, :) 00:33:50 -!- walter [~walter@ip-64-134-101-130.public.wayport.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 00:37:43 walter [~walter@c-24-218-217-69.hsd1.ma.comcast.net] has joined #scheme 00:41:04 what is eval for? 00:41:20 evaluation, :) 00:42:28 so to eval files? 00:42:58 no, eval works on individual expressions, encoded as (nested) lists of symbols 00:43:19 rudybot: (eval '(+ (+ 1 2) 3) (interaction-environment)) 00:43:19 ijp: error: interaction-environment: undefined; cannot reference an identifier before its definition in module: 'program 00:43:20 just add a begin 00:43:53 rudybot: (eval '(+ (+ 1 2) 3)) 00:43:54 GOMADWarrior: your sandbox is ready 00:43:54 GOMADWarrior: ; Value: 6 00:44:05 oh yeah, racket makes the environment optional 00:45:19 -!- jrajav [~jrajav@71-82-124-223.dhcp.roch.mn.charter.com] has quit [Quit: I tend to be neutral about apples] 00:46:31 rudybot: x 00:46:31 GOMADWarrior: error: x: undefined; cannot reference an identifier before its definition in module: 'program 00:46:44 rudybot: (define x 1) x 00:46:45 GOMADWarrior: > (define (define x) 1) 00:46:58 wut 00:47:29 rudybot: (begin (define x 1) x) 00:47:29 GOMADWarrior: ; Value: 1 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custom servers? 14:43:02 BossKonaSegwaY [~Michael@cpe-75-187-45-52.columbus.res.rr.com] has joined #scheme 14:48:12 GOMADWarrior [~Regis@189.34.44.144] has joined #scheme 14:49:22 hkBst: mod_lisp for Apache, if that's the kind of thing you're after 14:49:30 like http://www.nongnu.org/guile-www/doc/modlisp.html 14:50:08 civodul: no, I am looking for zero server-side lisp support 14:50:39 Er... 14:50:40 basically only use sexps as a better syntax than html, javascript, css 14:50:56 plus maybe a little more 14:50:57 Surely whatever languge you're using, the server has to support it somehow or other 14:51:27 LeoNerd: not if you compile it 14:51:47 Wellsure.. that's still "supporting it", somehow 14:51:49 Maybe FastCGI? 14:51:56 Or reverse proxy 14:52:15 LeoNerd: the idea is that I can compile it, then give the generated html, css javascript to others 14:52:51 Oh I see. A static site generator. Yah, that's another fun way to do ti 14:52:52 it 14:52:57 wbooze [~wbooze@xdsl-78-35-155-38.netcologne.de] has joined #scheme 14:53:13 maybe I should rephrase. What do other people here do when they have to write a web app using 14:53:48 -!- the-sun [542859de@gateway/web/freenode/ip.84.40.89.222] has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 14:54:24 LeoNerd: hmm I thought static meant html-only. Is that no longer the case? 14:54:47 Hrm? (generator (static site)) 14:55:00 -!- BossKonaSegwaY [~Michael@cpe-75-187-45-52.columbus.res.rr.com] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 14:55:00 hkBst: there is http://wiki.call-cc.org/eggref/4/hyde 14:55:06 Meaning: the output files it creates are static. Fixed. 14:55:14 The content of those files could be whatever 14:55:35 BossKonaSegwaY [~Michael@cpe-75-187-45-52.columbus.res.rr.com] has joined #scheme 14:55:39 LeoNerd: yes, in that sense, definitely yes 14:58:42 right, so a static website, and I need it to use some web GUI library. 14:59:00 any recommends there? 14:59:15 HTML 14:59:57 -!- BossKonaSegwaY [~Michael@cpe-75-187-45-52.columbus.res.rr.com] has quit [Client Quit] 15:00:07 -!- permagreen [~donovan@204-195-27-175.wavecable.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 15:00:24 -!- edw [~edw@207.239.61.34] has quit [Ping timeout: 258 seconds] 15:00:31 DerGuteMoritz: so, you're saying things like jquery UI are a waste of time? 15:01:17 BossKonaSegwaY [~Michael@cpe-75-187-45-52.columbus.res.rr.com] has joined #scheme 15:01:38 hkBst: not sure, you haven't said anything about your use case 15:03:02 DerGuteMoritz: I need some spreadsheet-like tables, maybe some visualizations. 15:04:49 tables with sorting etc.? 15:05:05 for visualizations I've used highcharts in the past which was quite nice 15:05:17 I'm no expert though 15:05:23 DerGuteMoritz: sorting I don;t think so 15:05:39 then maybe regular HTML tables are sufficient? 15:05:56 giveupandusetables.com 15:06:32 adiii [~adityavit@c-76-117-52-187.hsd1.nj.comcast.net] has joined #scheme 15:07:07 heh well tables for tabular data are not even EVIL 15:08:43 juxovec [~juxovec@94-74-228-90.client.rionet.cz] has joined #scheme 15:10:08 -!- jao [~jao@pdpc/supporter/professional/jao] has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 15:13:26 -!- juxovec [~juxovec@94-74-228-90.client.rionet.cz] has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 15:13:32 permagreen [~donovan@204-195-27-175.wavecable.com] has joined #scheme 15:21:43 Sambio [~sambio@unaffiliated/sambio] has joined #scheme 15:22:48 -!- Riastradh [~riastradh@fsf/member/riastradh] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 15:26:34 jao [~jao@48.Red-88-17-131.dynamicIP.rima-tde.net] has joined #scheme 15:26:38 -!- jao [~jao@48.Red-88-17-131.dynamicIP.rima-tde.net] has quit [Changing host] 15:26:38 jao [~jao@pdpc/supporter/professional/jao] has joined #scheme 15:31:18 -!- Tsyesika [~jessica@gilman.megworld.co.uk] has left #scheme 15:41:25 DerGuteMoritz: hyde doesn't seem to handle javascript though, or? 15:42:14 you want to write JS in sexprs, too? 15:42:49 DerGuteMoritz: yeah, if possible 15:43:28 you can add custom "translators" to hyde so it is possible 15:43:30 just not out of the box 15:43:48 an (incomplete) list of options is here: http://ceaude.twoticketsplease.de/js-lisps.html 15:46:36 ah, lisp implementations in js. I'm more interested in writing my static website using nothing but schemey technologies and compiling it all to html/js/css. Anyway, gotta go now, be back tomorrow. 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