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#scheme 13:20:27 preflex [~preflex@unaffiliated/mauke/bot/preflex] has joined #scheme 13:20:35 -!- fractastical [~jdietz@p5DDC036B.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [Quit: fractastical] 13:23:39 preflex_ [~preflex@unaffiliated/mauke/bot/preflex] has joined #scheme 13:23:54 what exactly do functions as input abstract? hm.. 13:25:04 and what exactly do functions as return values abstract? 13:25:08 -!- preflex [~preflex@unaffiliated/mauke/bot/preflex] has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 13:25:17 fractastical [~jdietz@p5DDC036B.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #scheme 13:28:53 -!- preflex_ [~preflex@unaffiliated/mauke/bot/preflex] has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 13:29:20 I want to really understand this, so I can apply it to everyday code. 13:30:13 -!- taylanub is now known as anonub 13:31:14 -!- anonub is now known as taylanub 13:34:28 Can you be more specific? 13:35:54 wbooze [~wbooze@xdsl-87-79-251-222.netcologne.de] has joined #scheme 13:36:22 I'm just trying to really understand higher order functions. 13:36:56 and how when I should use which technique in what kinds of situations in everyday code. 13:37:45 gleag [~gleag@71.175.broadband2.iol.cz] has joined #scheme 13:38:01 b4283 [~b4283@1-172-86-126.dynamic.hinet.net] has joined #scheme 13:45:37 Riastradh: in what way do you want me to be more specific? 13:45:50 GOMADWarrior [~Regis@187.65.193.132] has joined #scheme 13:50:12 zacts: you mean: when is it useful to have functions take function arguments and when is it useful to have function return functions? Well, think about transforming every element of a container. You don't want to hardwire the function you apply to each element... At the same time it now becomes useful to be able to construct functions to pass to your transformer function. 13:51:29 langmartin [~user@host-68-169-154-130.WISOLT2.epbfi.com] has joined #scheme 13:54:09 I understand summation, for example. and how to accept functions as input, instead of having particular functions such as, pi_summation / natural_summation, etc... 13:54:14 agumonkey [~agu@8.158.70.86.rev.sfr.net] has joined #scheme 13:54:28 but how would that apply to an everyday situation in another language? hm.. 13:54:35 -!- agumonkey is now known as agumoronkey 13:54:57 I'm trying to apply scheme and sicp to everyday programming. 13:55:21 BossKonaSegwaY [~Michael@cpe-75-187-45-52.columbus.res.rr.com] has joined #scheme 13:55:24 I just need to think about it for a while.. 13:55:30 -!- copumpkin [~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 13:56:14 like I feel like I can say simple things, but they aren't relevant to everyday things. similar to learning a foreign language. 13:56:19 preflex [~preflex@unaffiliated/mauke/bot/preflex] has joined #scheme 13:57:02 copumpkin [~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin] has joined #scheme 13:59:09 so I guess If I'm going to have a function that does something on some data, taking in a function abstracts the operation that is being done on the data. 14:01:06 -!- preflex [~preflex@unaffiliated/mauke/bot/preflex] has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 14:01:15 preflex_ [~preflex@unaffiliated/mauke/bot/preflex] has joined #scheme 14:01:59 -!- preflex_ is now known as preflex 14:03:41 ok, I need to get some sleep. thanks hkBst 14:07:31 -!- preflex [~preflex@unaffiliated/mauke/bot/preflex] has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 14:07:42 -!- wbooze [~wbooze@xdsl-87-79-251-222.netcologne.de] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 14:08:31 wbooze [~wbooze@xdsl-87-79-251-222.netcologne.de] has joined #scheme 14:09:56 -!- Arafangion [~Arafangio@101.117.77.235] has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 14:11:15 kib0 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expressions, but these sub-expressions now have something in common 14:24:46 A Clippy would appear and say: "I seems that you need an auxiliary procedure." :) 14:24:52 It seems. 14:24:56 preflex [~preflex@unaffiliated/mauke/bot/preflex] has joined #scheme 14:25:02 so, you abstract out the common parts into a function, and pass the differing parts as arguments 14:25:19 Is anyone working on a Scheme impl. with a JS backend? 14:25:27 except the differing parts in this case is a "sub-expression with a hole in it" -- iow, you abstract that as a function 14:25:48 so, instead of 14:25:57 (foo (bar-0 (baz))) 14:25:58 and 14:26:00 If yes, you might be interested in http://asmjs.org/spec/latest/ 14:26:01 (foo (bar-1 (baz))) 14:26:08 you say 14:26:14 (foo-baz bar-0) 14:26:15 and 14:26:17 (foo-baz bar-1) 14:26:21 with 14:26:31 (define (foo-baz bar) 14:26:40 (foo (bar (baz)))) 14:26:45 -!- Fare [~fare@173-9-65-97-NewEngland.hfc.comcastbusiness.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 14:27:12 and 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[fare@nat/google/x-wcugwjavkfubfxtf] has joined #scheme 18:04:54 preflex [~preflex@unaffiliated/mauke/bot/preflex] has joined #scheme 18:05:21 jrajav [~jrajav@198.179.137.211] has joined #scheme 18:07:29 -!- garjola [~user@139.202.68.86.rev.sfr.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 18:07:46 garjola [~user@139.202.68.86.rev.sfr.net] has joined #scheme 18:11:36 -!- hiroakip [~hiroaki@ip-5-147-122-136.unitymediagroup.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 18:13:58 -!- taylanub [tub@p4FD93D06.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Disconnected by services] 18:14:15 taylanub [tub@p4FD939BD.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #scheme 18:14:19 Riastradh, cky, taylanub: Ping... 18:15:36 OKi guys - figured it out. The Java objects are in Scheme space as Java objects. They have to be mapped to a Lisp object (import oo) and then java-wrap/java-unwrap. This is tedious and error prone, but doable. 18:15:41 Yes? (Best to just ask your question; anyone who is here can answer, and anyone who is not can read the log.) 18:16:06 I will publish the write up in the next day or so, will get traffic around Tue (PR guys will push for it elsewhere). 18:16:18 -!- garjola [~user@139.202.68.86.rev.sfr.net] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 18:16:20 -!- preflex [~preflex@unaffiliated/mauke/bot/preflex] has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 18:16:43 If you would like me to credit you, please tell me how you'd like your name/nick to appear in the Acknowledgemnts
by email to: author AT eugeneciurana.com :) 18:17:20 If you want to credit me, `Riastradh' works as well as anything. 18:17:27 Riastradh: OKi, thanks :) 18:17:42 garjola [~user@139.202.68.86.rev.sfr.net] has joined #scheme 18:18:19 You could also broadly credit the #scheme IRC channel. 18:19:15 credit me! 18:19:18 i like credit! 18:19:25 (i have no idea what you are doing) 18:19:28 Most of the time I publish through some editorial group (Apress, TechTarget, IDG, etc.) but Zed Shaw convinced me to just publish myself; the peeps whose tech I describe, if they have a PR flak, promote stuff for me. 18:19:38 Riastradh: That was a given ;) 18:20:15 -!- garjola [~user@139.202.68.86.rev.sfr.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 18:20:16 Normally I credit, "Thanks to Riastradh, ozzloy, blah, bluh, and the rest of the #scheme IRC channel on Freenode." 18:20:29 lulz 18:20:33 irc://irc.freenode.net/#scheme linked, of course. 18:20:38 garjola [~user@139.202.68.86.rev.sfr.net] has joined #scheme 18:23:17 bipt [~bpt@cpe-071-070-253-241.nc.res.rr.com] has joined #scheme 18:24:29 preflex [~preflex@unaffiliated/mauke/bot/preflex] has joined #scheme 18:26:30 hiroakip [~hiroaki@5.147.122.136] has joined #scheme 18:31:18 -!- dessos [~dessos@c-174-60-176-249.hsd1.pa.comcast.net] has left #scheme 18:33:47 MichaelRaskin [~MichaelRa@195.91.224.225] has joined #scheme 18:35:07 -!- kib0 [~kib0@201.132.108.138] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 18:40:31 -!- przl [~przlrkt@p54BF8C41.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [Quit: leaving] 18:40:57 tupi [~user@186.205.69.180] has joined #scheme 18:41:31 -!- Myk267 [~myk@adsl-71-149-249-241.dsl.mtry01.sbcglobal.net] has quit [Quit: Ack! 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It's semi-embargoed until Monday or Tuesday, when we'll post the content to my own blog(s) and which MuleSoft will promote. 20:02:05 cdidd [~cdidd@95-27-217-155.broadband.corbina.ru] has joined #scheme 20:02:09 Let me know if you guys would like any changes. 20:03:20 civodul [~user@reverse-83.fdn.fr] has joined #scheme 20:03:46 -!- toekutr [~user@50-0-51-11.dsl.static.sonic.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 20:04:35 -!- juxovec [~juxovec@88.103.13.78] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 20:04:57 toekutr [~user@50-0-51-11.dsl.static.sonic.net] has joined #scheme 20:09:23 juxovec [~juxovec@88.103.13.78] has joined #scheme 20:10:14 -!- preflex [~preflex@unaffiliated/mauke/bot/preflex] has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 20:11:13 preflex [~preflex@unaffiliated/mauke/bot/preflex] has joined #scheme 20:12:39 -!- juxovec [~juxovec@88.103.13.78] has quit [Read error: Operation timed out] 20:13:02 -!- pothos [~pothos@114-25-192-202.dynamic.hinet.net] has quit [Read error: Operation timed out] 20:13:29 pothos [~pothos@114-25-201-90.dynamic.hinet.net] has joined #scheme 20:17:00 -!- preflex [~preflex@unaffiliated/mauke/bot/preflex] has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 20:20:11 -!- alexei is now known as amgarchIn9 20:20:28 Er... let me know by email because I'm leaving now. This will be posted over the weekend, we'll do a PR push after Tuesday. 20:20:45 author AT eugeneciurana.com 20:20:47 *pr3d4t0r* left. 20:23:04 preflex [~preflex@unaffiliated/mauke/bot/preflex] has joined #scheme 20:29:44 -!- preflex [~preflex@unaffiliated/mauke/bot/preflex] has quit [Read error: Operation timed out] 20:30:44 carleastlund [~cce@209-6-40-238.c3-0.smr-ubr1.sbo-smr.ma.cable.rcn.com] has joined #scheme 20:32:05 preflex [~preflex@unaffiliated/mauke/bot/preflex] has joined #scheme 20:34:33 -!- wbooze [~wbooze@xdsl-87-79-251-222.netcologne.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 20:35:13 juxovec [~juxovec@88.103.13.78] has joined #scheme 20:35:50 -!- jrajav [~jrajav@198.179.137.211] has quit [Quit: I tend to be neutral about apples] 20:36:56 -!- preflex [~preflex@unaffiliated/mauke/bot/preflex] has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 20:37:00 preflex_ [~preflex@unaffiliated/mauke/bot/preflex] has joined #scheme 20:37:44 -!- preflex_ is now known as preflex 20:40:59 wbooze [~wbooze@xdsl-78-35-159-2.netcologne.de] has joined #scheme 20:42:28 -!- preflex [~preflex@unaffiliated/mauke/bot/preflex] has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 20:44:03 -!- juxovec [~juxovec@88.103.13.78] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 20:44:50 juxovec [~juxovec@88.103.13.78] has joined #scheme 20:47:04 -!- hiroakip [~hiroaki@5.147.122.136] has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 20:47:21 hiroakip [~hiroaki@ip-5-147-122-136.unitymediagroup.de] has joined #scheme 20:51:45 sambio [~sambio@190.57.227.109] has joined #scheme 20:55:25 edw [~edw@207.239.61.34] has joined #scheme 20:55:33 snearch [~snearch@brln-4dba249d.pool.mediaWays.net] has joined #scheme 20:55:45 preflex [~preflex@unaffiliated/mauke/bot/preflex] has joined #scheme 21:01:08 The article at http://cl.ly/NmEQ does not seem to be a contiguous piece of text. 21:01:26 I can't help it but the pages somehow don't match. 21:03:26 -!- preflex [~preflex@unaffiliated/mauke/bot/preflex] has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 21:04:01 -!- snearch [~snearch@brln-4dba249d.pool.mediaWays.net] has quit [Quit: Verlassend] 21:06:14 preflex [~preflex@unaffiliated/mauke/bot/preflex] has joined #scheme 21:10:28 -!- Hermit [~hermit@unaffiliated/grpala] has left #scheme 21:12:15 *drewc* reads "Hands On: Enabling Scheme", sees Clojure (which is not scheme at all) and does not see ABCL (which is CL), and decides to stop right there. 21:12:39 -!- preflex [~preflex@unaffiliated/mauke/bot/preflex] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 21:17:45 -!- edw [~edw@207.239.61.34] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 21:18:15 -!- garjola [~user@139.202.68.86.rev.sfr.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 21:20:04 preflex_ [~preflex@unaffiliated/mauke/bot/preflex] has joined #scheme 21:21:09 -!- preflex_ is now known as preflex 21:25:00 -!- b4283 [~b4283@1-172-86-126.dynamic.hinet.net] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 21:27:05 -!- githogori [~githogori@c-50-156-57-127.hsd1.ca.comcast.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 21:32:55 -!- preflex [~preflex@unaffiliated/mauke/bot/preflex] has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 21:33:32 -!- gleag_ is now known as gleag 21:37:17 preflex [~preflex@unaffiliated/mauke/bot/preflex] has joined #scheme 21:42:25 -!- juxovec [~juxovec@88.103.13.78] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 21:43:13 -!- preflex [~preflex@unaffiliated/mauke/bot/preflex] has quit [Ping timeout: 258 seconds] 21:47:49 preflex [~preflex@unaffiliated/mauke/bot/preflex] has joined #scheme 21:53:18 ccorn [~ccorn@i52104.upc-i.chello.nl] has joined #scheme 21:56:30 Nisstyre-laptop [~yours@oftn/member/Nisstyre] has joined #scheme 22:00:02 cinolt [4247579e@gateway/web/freenode/ip.66.71.87.158] has joined #scheme 22:01:18 What is the good, my fellow homie G skillet dawggies? I wrote an algorithm for the n-queens problem, and I'm trying to revise it for maximum conceptual clarity. Can somebody provide some feedback? =D http://paste.lisp.org/display/136238 22:02:00 -!- gleag [~gleag@71.175.broadband2.iol.cz] has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 22:02:12 Whoops, forgot to include some procedures. 22:02:57 Hmm, I missed the 2^17th lisppaste. Must've happened a few months ago. 22:03:44 Revision: http://paste.lisp.org/display/136239 22:04:23 People remember powers of 2 past 16? I must be weird. 22:04:56 -!- gravicappa [~gravicapp@ppp91-77-160-180.pppoe.mtu-net.ru] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 22:08:04 gleag [~gleag@71.175.broadband2.iol.cz] has joined #scheme 22:16:10 dnolen [~user@rrcs-208-105-4-254.nyc.biz.rr.com] has joined #scheme 22:17:28 -!- langmartin [~user@host-68-169-175-226.WISOLT2.epbfi.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 22:17:35 It's 131xyz, anyway. 22:18:18 -!- jeapostr1phe [~jay@69.169.141.110.provo.static.broadweavenetworks.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 22:19:25 Consider using ANY and EVERY rather than OR o MAP and AND o MAP. 22:20:19 What is ANY and EVERY? 22:22:11 More or less OR o MAP and AND o MAP, but with short-circuiting. 22:22:14 -!- cdidd [~cdidd@95-27-217-155.broadband.corbina.ru] has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 22:22:32 (any f (list x0 ... xn)) = (or (f x0) ... (f xn)) 22:22:38 (every f (list x0 ... xn)) = (and (f x0) ... (f xn)) 22:23:07 (define (first) (car conf)) makes the code longer without enhancing legibility much, I think. 22:23:41 Well, it makes it explicit that (car conf) "means" the first element of conf. 22:24:01 Just to make it more clear ;o 22:24:55 Personally, a single symbol is much more legible than a combination, no matter how simple the combination may be. 22:31:54 -!- pcl [~squip@cpe-68-174-132-160.nyc.res.rr.com] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 22:32:20 -!- bjz [~brendanza@125.253.99.68] has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 22:32:44 bjz [~brendanza@125.253.99.68] has joined #scheme 22:34:44 -!- hiroakip [~hiroaki@ip-5-147-122-136.unitymediagroup.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 22:38:02 -!- bjz [~brendanza@125.253.99.68] has quit [Ping timeout: 258 seconds] 22:41:29 bjz [~brendanza@125.253.99.68] has joined #scheme 22:46:40 -!- bjz [~brendanza@125.253.99.68] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 22:48:34 -!- civodul [~user@reverse-83.fdn.fr] has quit [Quit: ERC Version 5.3 (IRC client for Emacs)] 22:51:20 -!- agumonkey [~agu@8.158.70.86.rev.sfr.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 22:53:03 juxovec [~juxovec@88.103.13.78] has joined #scheme 22:56:07 -!- juxovec [~juxovec@88.103.13.78] has quit [Read error: Operation timed out] 22:57:16 hiroakip [~hiroaki@ip-5-147-122-136.unitymediagroup.de] has joined #scheme 23:01:47 cinolt: This abbreviates as "I don't like design patterns" to me, which is indeed a lispy approach. :) 23:05:17 131072. :-) 23:05:25 cinolt: I know powers of 2 up to 25. 23:06:00 Though 2^22 is harder for me to remember than the rest of them for some reason. 23:06:47 -!- Nisstyre-laptop [~yours@oftn/member/Nisstyre] has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 23:09:46 bjz [~brendanza@ppp221-117.static.internode.on.net] has joined #scheme 23:12:44 -!- adiii [~adityavit@NYUFGA-WLESSAUTHCLIENTS-04.NATPOOL.NYU.EDU] has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 23:18:39 gleag_ [~gleag@71.175.broadband2.iol.cz] has joined #scheme 23:21:21 -!- gleag [~gleag@71.175.broadband2.iol.cz] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 23:23:19 -!- copumpkin [~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin] has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 23:23:48 copumpkin [~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin] has joined #scheme 23:25:03 kib0 [~kibo@201.132.108.138] has joined #scheme 23:30:50 -!- hiroakip [~hiroaki@ip-5-147-122-136.unitymediagroup.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 23:38:13 -!- ccorn [~ccorn@i52104.upc-i.chello.nl] has quit [Quit: ccorn] 23:42:38 -!- fractastical [~jdietz@ds80-237-216-40.dedicated.hosteurope.de] has quit [Quit: fractastical] 23:46:45 -!- joneshf-laptop [~joneshf@mail.concordusapps.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 23:49:19 -!- dnolen [~user@rrcs-208-105-4-254.nyc.biz.rr.com] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 23:50:26 dnolen [~user@rrcs-208-105-4-254.nyc.biz.rr.com] has joined #scheme 23:52:54 -!- amgarchIn9 [~amgarchin@p4FD609A4.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 23:54:37 -!- bjz [~brendanza@ppp221-117.static.internode.on.net] has quit [Quit: Leaving...] 23:54:46 -!- zacts [~user@unaffiliated/zacts] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 23:56:56 zacts [~user@unaffiliated/zacts] has joined #scheme 23:57:23 bjz [~brendanza@ppp221-117.static.internode.on.net] has joined #scheme 23:58:03 jeapostrophe [~jay@racket/jeapostrophe] has joined #scheme 23:58:25 -!- Fare [fare@nat/google/x-wcugwjavkfubfxtf] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 23:59:47 b4283 [~b4283@1-173-97-156.dynamic.hinet.net] has joined #scheme