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That is all. 12:23:24 -!- Jalumar [~hlj@h235n2-vn-a12.ias.bredband.telia.com] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 12:26:22 framling: great to hear this! 12:26:41 what are you using Scheme for? 12:36:49 znode [~znode@59.108.118.101] has joined #scheme 12:42:13 -!- znode [~znode@59.108.118.101] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 12:46:31 framling: Be warned. You're standing on the edge of a very deep rabbit hole. You'll fall in soon. 12:46:40 -!- Icarot [~Icarot@c-98-210-95-103.hsd1.ca.comcast.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 12:46:43 Just studying SICP. I haven't gotten very far yet. 12:47:02 It's just so satisfying to solve even a basic problem. 12:55:28 SICP is nice 12:58:46 relation [~relation@ip58-112-cust.sprintel.cz] has joined #scheme 12:59:29 hi! is there a way to define recursive macro (which references itself in its definition) using "define-macro" in DrScheme? thank you 13:00:14 a macro can expand into another macro usage 13:03:32 rudybot: (define-syntax test (syntax-rules () ((test) 'lol) ((test a b ...) `(lol recursion ,(test b ...))))) 13:03:33 ijp: your sandbox is ready 13:03:33 ijp: Done. 13:03:41 rudybot: (test foo bar baz) 13:03:41 ijp: ; Value: (lol recursion (lol recursion (lol recursion lol))) 13:04:03 ok, thank you, I've just realised that I unquoted the referencing part and I shouldn't 13:04:17 relation: this isn't quite the same as what you are after, but it'll probably do 13:04:48 if I (mis)understand the question right 13:05:28 relation: also lots of us are anti-define-macro, but I'm not in the mood to proselytize 13:06:29 ijp: that's fine, it's just to understand the define-macro better.. 13:06:47 ijp: it's not to be used in production :) 13:10:10 LAMMJohnson [~ja@user-5AF43BAB.broadband.tesco.net] has joined #scheme 13:13:38 BossKonaSegwaY1 [~Michael@cpe-75-187-45-52.columbus.res.rr.com] has joined #scheme 13:13:46 -!- BossKonaSegwaY [~Michael@cpe-75-187-45-52.columbus.res.rr.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 13:30:33 b4283 [~b4283@1-172-85-179.dynamic.hinet.net] has joined #scheme 13:31:18 Fare [~fare@173-9-65-97-NewEngland.hfc.comcastbusiness.net] has joined #scheme 13:32:39 annodomini [~lambda@wikipedia/lambda] has joined #scheme 13:46:39 juxovec [~juxovec@88.103.13.78] has joined #scheme 13:47:38 dEPy [~matjazCod@46-150-62-58.cable.teleing.net] has joined #scheme 13:49:28 -!- annodomini [~lambda@wikipedia/lambda] has quit [Quit: annodomini] 14:00:04 -!- agumonkey is now known as agumonbike 14:01:50 carado_ [~user4539@2a01:e35:8b61:e430:6ef0:49ff:fe73:1fd0] has joined #scheme 14:01:55 -!- yacks [~yacks@180.151.36.169] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 14:03:57 -!- lazyden [~lazyden@58.185.121.38] has quit [Quit: lazyden] 14:08:03 langmartin [~langmarti@host-68-169-175-226.WISOLT2.epbfi.com] has joined #scheme 14:08:08 -!- carado_ [~user4539@2a01:e35:8b61:e430:6ef0:49ff:fe73:1fd0] has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 14:09:56 -!- BossKonaSegwaY1 [~Michael@cpe-75-187-45-52.columbus.res.rr.com] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 14:10:08 dnolen [~user@206.48.23.226] has joined #scheme 14:11:54 what is the easiest resource for following r7rs development? 14:12:13 BossKonaSegwaY [~Michael@cpe-75-187-45-52.columbus.res.rr.com] has joined #scheme 14:12:29 not academic progress, rather more blog like with new things explained 14:13:08 -!- langmartin [~langmarti@host-68-169-175-226.WISOLT2.epbfi.com] has quit [Quit: gone] 14:14:11 langmartin [~langmarti@host-68-169-175-226.WISOLT2.epbfi.com] has joined #scheme 14:23:46 -!- langmartin [~langmarti@host-68-169-175-226.WISOLT2.epbfi.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 14:24:24 langmartin [~langmarti@host-68-169-175-226.WISOLT2.epbfi.com] has joined #scheme 14:24:38 hiroakip [~hiroaki@ip-5-147-122-136.unitymediagroup.de] has joined #scheme 14:33:56 carado_ [~user4539@2a01:e35:8b61:e430:6ef0:49ff:fe73:1fd0] has joined #scheme 14:34:35 -!- carado_ [~user4539@2a01:e35:8b61:e430:6ef0:49ff:fe73:1fd0] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 14:37:53 -!- langmartin [~langmarti@host-68-169-175-226.WISOLT2.epbfi.com] has quit [Quit: sleep] 14:38:41 wbooze [~wbooze@xdsl-78-35-158-2.netcologne.de] has joined #scheme 14:43:46 marcin [~marcin@178-36-216-199.adsl.inetia.pl] has joined #scheme 14:44:05 -!- marcin [~marcin@178-36-216-199.adsl.inetia.pl] has left #scheme 14:46:30 BossKonaSegwaY1 [~Michael@cpe-75-187-45-52.columbus.res.rr.com] has joined #scheme 14:47:14 -!- BossKonaSegwaY [~Michael@cpe-75-187-45-52.columbus.res.rr.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 14:47:44 -!- agumonbike is now known as agumonkeat 14:49:25 BossKonaSegwaY [~Michael@cpe-75-187-45-52.columbus.res.rr.com] has joined #scheme 14:49:55 Be back later. 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17:24:45 *civodul* wonders if he misses a functional pattern 17:25:07 Giomancer [~gio@107.201.206.230] has joined #scheme 17:28:40 -!- przl [~przlrkt@46.231.183.162] has quit [Quit: leaving] 17:30:12 -!- b4283 [~b4283@1-172-85-179.dynamic.hinet.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 17:30:13 *LeoNerd* wonders if he misses the question 17:30:35 jonrafkind [~jon@racket/jonrafkind] has joined #scheme 17:31:11 civodul: I guess you are asking how one could implement generic functions? 17:31:21 or what more is there to generic functions? 17:32:44 -!- amgarchIn9 [~amgarchin@theo1.theochem.tu-muenchen.de] has quit [Read error: Operation timed out] 17:33:23 DerGuteMoritz: i'm asking whether there's a functional pattern not involving generic functions as found in CLOS to achieve extensible match/case code 17:34:13 CLOS just provides one implementation of generic functions 17:34:48 and if you don't want to use that you can roll your own, yeah 17:35:00 yeah 17:35:06 but then you'll still be using generic functions, no? 17:35:17 yes 17:36:04 ok so what you need is some kind of lookup table that can be modified 17:36:29 one lookup table per function 17:36:44 carado [~user4539@2a01:e35:8b61:e430:6ef0:49ff:fe73:1fd0] has joined #scheme 17:37:33 yeah, then you're basically reimplementing GFs 17:37:34 hmm 17:38:56 lusory [~lusory@42.60.25.228] has joined #scheme 17:41:13 MehLaptop [~MehLaptop@209.129.115.31] has joined #scheme 17:43:14 -!- hiroakip [~hiroaki@ip-5-147-122-136.unitymediagroup.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 17:43:20 juxovec [~juxovec@88.103.13.78] has joined #scheme 17:52:40 nomous [~nomous@78.209.173.133] has joined #scheme 17:54:06 civodul: right, that's what you were asking for AFAUI :-) 17:54:23 -!- dnolen [~user@206.48.23.226] has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 17:54:48 maybe you don't want some other property of generic functions which I'm not aware of or something 17:55:30 I don't claim authority on generic functions 17:57:38 i guess i'm just thinking out loud ;-) 17:57:42 -!- William_ [~William@108.85.16.151] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 17:59:54 -!- MehLaptop [~MehLaptop@209.129.115.31] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 18:00:03 me too hehe 18:11:46 -!- langmartin [~langmarti@host-68-169-175-226.WISOLT2.epbfi.com] has quit [Quit: sleep] 18:14:06 langmartin [~langmarti@host-68-169-175-226.WISOLT2.epbfi.com] has joined #scheme 18:14:22 MichaelRaskin [~MichaelRa@195.91.224.225] has joined #scheme 18:18:32 -!- bjz [~brendanza@125.253.99.68] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 18:19:37 ASau [~user@46.115.76.71] has joined #scheme 18:20:20 -!- basdirks [~basdirks@5352A1E5.cm-6-3c.dynamic.ziggo.nl] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 18:27:35 *drewc* can recommend at this point reading "The art of the metaobject protocol" to civodul ... 18:29:22 ... and if you have questions about GF's, do not be afraid to ask me personally. I happen to be friends with one of the authors of that book, and the CL standard for objects (CLOS) is based on that. 18:31:01 amgarchIn9 [~amgarchin@p4FD607C0.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #scheme 18:38:08 -!- sambio [~sambio@190.57.227.109] has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 18:40:00 -!- PuercoPop [~user@190.222.252.106] has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 18:41:24 i actually know CLOS (and Guile's GOOPS) quite well 18:41:36 but i've come to dislike various aspects of the coding style it encourages 18:46:15 Generic functions are nice 18:46:23 To the point that Perl6 decided it wanted them :) 18:48:24 PuercoPop [~user@190.222.252.106] has joined #scheme 18:48:44 -!- PuercoPop is now known as Guest60442 18:50:01 FRSHPRNCFBLR [noone@CPEbcc81001de0a-CMbcc81001de07.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com] has joined #scheme 18:50:02 -!- juxovec [~juxovec@88.103.13.78] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 18:50:36 -!- FRSHPRNCFBLR [noone@CPEbcc81001de0a-CMbcc81001de07.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com] has quit [Client Quit] 18:51:03 -!- carado [~user4539@2a01:e35:8b61:e430:6ef0:49ff:fe73:1fd0] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 18:52:01 -!- Guest60442 is now known as PuercoPop` 18:52:05 civodul: what coding style does it encourage for you? 18:52:21 juxovec [~juxovec@88.103.13.78] has joined #scheme 18:52:25 -!- PuercoPop` is now known as PuercoPop 18:54:13 imperative programming (sometimes), and objects instead of functions and combinators 18:54:28 that's a broad statement, and i'm sure we could argue over it for ages 18:55:48 Of course, given that objects <=> closures. 18:56:40 not with CLOS 18:57:00 Just a tad more complex closures. :-) 18:57:11 Could we say that closures offer a better generalized concept over the "encapsulation" provided by some OOP systems ? 18:57:36 civodul: well, ok ... you are not experienced with CLOS then? I may be a tad too experienced because that is not what I know and not who I work with. 18:57:43 taylanub: http://people.csail.mit.edu/gregs/ll1-discuss-archive-html/msg03277.html 18:59:14 jao [~jao@c-24-22-80-19.hsd1.or.comcast.net] has joined #scheme 18:59:16 *drewc* states that functions ARE objects, all objects have classes, and imperative vs functional has little to do with the choice of CLOS :) 18:59:17 -!- jao [~jao@c-24-22-80-19.hsd1.or.comcast.net] has quit [Changing host] 18:59:17 jao [~jao@pdpc/supporter/professional/jao] has joined #scheme 18:59:20 hiroakip [~hiroaki@ip-5-147-122-136.unitymediagroup.de] has joined #scheme 19:00:42 *stamourv* agrees with drewc. 19:00:54 -!- cdidd [~cdidd@95-24-115-121.broadband.corbina.ru] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 19:01:19 Thanks for the link, didn't know of the "objects vs. closures" war. :) 19:01:41 drewc: Except for the "all objects have classes" part. 19:02:00 taylanub: War? 19:02:06 FSVO "war" 19:03:07 stamourv: why do you disagree? 19:03:35 Prototypes. 19:03:42 cdidd [~cdidd@95-26-62-119.broadband.corbina.ru] has joined #scheme 19:03:57 Schemers should know it, it was discovered by Sussman, when he implemented closures in scheme. He was working on actors at the time (actors are a kind of objects), and when he implemented closures, he realized that the code to implement actors was identical to the code to implement closures. 19:04:00 Though I was actually thinking of encapsulation/lexical-scope as isolated features. Instance methods can be implemented as "generic functions," but CLOS doesn't offer encapsulation per-se, does it ? (All slots are public.) 19:04:30 stamourv: so, (= instance class) ... not a lack of classes 19:04:37 pjb: Wasn't that Steele? 19:04:58 -!- nomous [~nomous@78.209.173.133] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 19:05:09 http://c2.com/cgi/wiki?ClosuresAndObjectsAreEquivalent 19:05:16 drewc: Maybe. I'm not an expert on OO, so I won't argue. 19:06:00 stamourv: perhaps, I have a doubt. Let's find the sources. 19:06:38 While working with Objective-C and Apple's frameworks, I often hate it how I have to make a whole sub-class (which conventoinally means a whole new file in the project) simply to overwrite a method or non-public property of a class. Therefore I began to think that encapsulation is often being done wrong. 19:06:45 pjb: I'll let you dig it up. I really should be working. :) 19:08:03 stamourv: well, Smalltalk and CL have 'proper' OO IMO, but like the guy who 'invented' the term, I think the modern 'meaning' is so much 'false' that, well, I will have to argue with myself :) 19:08:07 Wikipedial says Sussman & Steele: Sussman and Steele decided to try to model Actors in the lambda calculus. They called their modeling system Schemer, eventually changing it to Scheme to fit the six-character limit on the ITS file system on their DEC PDP-10. They soon concluded Actors were essentially closures that never return but instead invoke a continuation, and thus they decided that the closure and the Actor were, for the purpose 19:08:07 of their investigation, essentially identical concepts. 19:08:14 s/dial/dia/ 19:08:35 Mmm.. nice bit of history there ;) 19:08:47 Presumably also explains Scheme's love of TCE 19:10:10 It does; TCO is necessary for closures to be truly equivalent to actors. (AFAIK it was only after they implemented TCO, that they realized they were the same.) 19:14:08 -!- langmartin [~langmarti@host-68-169-175-226.WISOLT2.epbfi.com] has quit [Quit: sleep] 19:14:53 toekutr [~user@50-0-51-11.dsl.static.sonic.net] has joined #scheme 19:18:53 langmartin [~langmarti@host-68-169-175-226.WISOLT2.epbfi.com] has joined #scheme 19:22:37 Kruppe [~user@j2petkovich.uwaterloo.ca] has joined #scheme 19:23:12 how would one go about adding macros to the explicit control evaluator from sicp? 19:24:06 -!- Nshag [user@chl45-1-88-123-84-8.fbx.proxad.net] has quit [Quit: Quitte] 19:24:17 Nshag [user@chl45-1-88-123-84-8.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #scheme 19:24:17 i guess i would just pass the un-evaluated operands to the macro body and evaluate the result 19:27:26 basdirks [~basdirks@5352A1E5.cm-6-3c.dynamic.ziggo.nl] has joined #scheme 19:30:58 -!- mmc1 [~michal@178.85.58.190] has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 19:32:08 -!- basdirks 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