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[~amgarchin@p4FD60AB0.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #scheme 18:24:57 jao [~jao@c-24-22-80-19.hsd1.or.comcast.net] has joined #scheme 18:25:00 -!- jao [~jao@c-24-22-80-19.hsd1.or.comcast.net] has quit [Changing host] 18:25:00 jao [~jao@pdpc/supporter/professional/jao] has joined #scheme 18:33:06 if I want to do filter some list and then sum the result together, how do I dump the content of the list to + instead of list 18:33:45 ow wait, I suddenly know this 18:33:56 apply 18:34:25 yeah, thanks :) 18:34:44 new to scheme, little victories here and there 18:35:50 bipt [~bpt@cpe-071-070-253-241.nc.res.rr.com] has joined #scheme 18:37:41 zacts [~lcc@unaffiliated/zacts] has joined #scheme 18:38:34 rudybot: eval (require srfi/1) 18:38:35 ski_: Done. 18:38:44 rudybot: eval (filter odd? (list 0 1 1 2 3 5 8 13 21 34)) 18:38:44 ski_: ; Value: (1 1 3 5 13 21) 18:38:52 rudybot: eval (apply + (filter odd? (list 0 1 1 2 3 5 8 13 21 34))) 18:38:53 ski_: ; Value: 44 18:38:54 -!- basdirks [~basdirks@5352A1E5.cm-6-3c.dynamic.ziggo.nl] has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 18:39:25 thanks ski_, already got it :) 18:39:37 then again, I didn't know I would need srfi1 18:39:43 guile handled that automatically 18:40:18 rudybot: eval (fold + 0 (filter odd? (list 0 1 1 2 3 5 8 13 21 34))) 18:40:18 ski_: ; Value: 44 18:41:10 some Scheme implementations may have restrictions on how long argument lists can be passed (here via `apply') 18:42:02 I see 18:42:17 (but in the `fold' case, there is no long argument list passed, just one argument which may be a long list) 18:42:18 I'd guess I'd just have to cut them in parts and do it that way 18:42:26 ah 18:43:00 (apply + (list 0 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9)) 18:43:02 will call 18:43:11 (+ 0 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9) 18:43:57 so, the longer list is passes as last argument to `apply', the more arguments is passed to the first argument of the `apply' call 18:44:41 rudybot: eval (apply list 0 1 2 (list 3 4)) 18:44:41 ski_: ; Value: (0 1 2 3 4) 18:44:45 rudybot: eval (apply + 0 1 2 (list 3 4)) 18:44:46 ski_: ; Value: 10 18:59:03 -!- kk` [~kk@unaffiliated/kk/x-5380134] has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 19:00:44 peterhil` [~peterhil@gatekeeper.brainalliance.com] has joined #scheme 19:01:21 dioxirane [~laciodrom@unaffiliated/dioxirane] has joined #scheme 19:05:20 -!- peterhil` [~peterhil@gatekeeper.brainalliance.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 19:07:41 so, I come from python so can you explain to me what let is used for 19:07:58 to me it seems like it defines an environment where some variables hold 19:08:04 and I can do things there 19:08:27 William [~William@108-85-16-151.lightspeed.gnvlsc.sbcglobal.net] has joined #scheme 19:08:51 -!- William is now known as Guest10917 19:10:28 annodomini [~lambda@173-14-129-9-NewEngland.hfc.comcastbusiness.net] has joined #scheme 19:10:29 -!- annodomini [~lambda@173-14-129-9-NewEngland.hfc.comcastbusiness.net] has quit [Changing host] 19:10:29 annodomini [~lambda@wikipedia/lambda] has joined #scheme 19:11:08 -!- Guest10917 is now known as tert3l 19:11:14 peterhil` [~peterhil@gatekeeper.brainalliance.com] has joined #scheme 19:11:36 Aperculum, said environment is only in scope lexically, that is, within the physical let form 19:13:15 but what do I use it for 19:13:35 there's nothing like that in other languages, or atleast I cannot compare anything 19:14:09 There are other languages that have let, but possibly not ones you've used 19:14:30 probably not 19:14:44 I've used python and C mostly 19:15:00 being some what proficient in python 19:19:12 `let' is for binding variables in a lexical scope 19:19:28 annodomini_ [~lambda@173-14-129-9-newengland.hfc.comcastbusiness.net] has joined #scheme 19:19:28 -!- annodomini_ [~lambda@173-14-129-9-newengland.hfc.comcastbusiness.net] has quit [Changing host] 19:19:28 annodomini_ [~lambda@wikipedia/lambda] has joined #scheme 19:19:39 it is similar to `{ int x = 42; ..x.. }' in C 19:20:43 rudybot: eval (let ((x 42) (y 3)) (* x y)) 19:20:43 ski_: ; Value: 126 19:21:19 (note that assignment and binding are different things. both C and Scheme happen to bind the variable `x' to a mutable location, though) 19:21:57 (.. or at least, that's the zeroeth approximation) 19:21:57 ah, I think I understand 19:22:23 `let' introduces local variables 19:23:13 rudybot: eval (let ((x 42) (y 3)) (set! x 1) (* x y)) 19:23:14 ski_: ; Value: 3 19:23:32 araujo [~araujo@190.73.45.171] has joined #scheme 19:23:32 -!- araujo [~araujo@190.73.45.171] has quit [Changing host] 19:23:32 araujo [~araujo@gentoo/developer/araujo] has joined #scheme 19:23:42 -!- annodomini [~lambda@wikipedia/lambda] has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 19:23:43 -!- annodomini_ is now known as annodomini 19:24:16 (Aperculum : btw, i was here assuming you know at least a little C -- do you ?) 19:24:36 yes I do 19:25:14 thanks for the explanation 19:25:27 sometimes you'd use `let' to get mutable locations which you can change (say in a loop) 19:25:32 -!- Nisstyre [~yours@oftn/member/Nisstyre] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 19:25:43 often you use it just to get a name for the value of some expression, though 19:26:13 -!- dioxirane [~laciodrom@unaffiliated/dioxirane] has quit [Quit: leaving] 19:27:03 I see 19:27:35 rudybot: eval (do ((n 7 (- n 1)) (f 1 (* f n))) ((= n 0) f)) 19:27:36 ski_: ; Value: 5040 19:27:46 that's a loop without any mutation 19:27:58 properly indented, it would look something like 19:28:12 (do ((n 7 (- n 1)) 19:28:24 (f 1 (* f n))) 19:28:32 ((= n 0) 19:28:47 f)) 19:29:11 (sorry, one space too much in the `(= n 0)' line) 19:29:35 -!- juxovec [~juxovec@88.103.13.78] has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 19:29:52 `n' is initially `7', and each time we start anew, the next `n' becomes the value of `(- n 1)' 19:30:09 `f' is initially `1', and each time we start anew, the next `f' becomes the value of `(* f n)' 19:30:39 when `(= n 0)' is true, we stop the loop, and the value of the whole expression is the value of the final `f' 19:31:37 (so this computes the factorial of `7') 19:33:08 Arafangion [~Arafangio@101.114.0.230] has joined #scheme 19:35:27 Aperculum : if you haven't seen it before, you might find "Riastradh's Lisp Style Rules" by Taylor R. 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