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numerals work and how to convert them into real numbers. 17:26:40 MichaelRaskin [~MichaelRa@195.91.224.225] has joined #scheme 17:29:16 dEPy: see http://pl.barzilay.org/lec11.txt for an alternative explanation 17:29:22 rudybot: (define zero (lambda (f) (lambda (x) x))) 17:29:22 ijp: Done. 17:29:28 rudybot: (define one (lambda (f) (lambda (x) (f x)))) 17:29:28 ijp: Done. 17:29:33 rudybot: (define two (lambda (f) (lambda (x) (f (f x))))) 17:29:34 ijp: Done. 17:29:35 -!- amgarchIn9 [~amgarchin@theo1.theochem.tu-muenchen.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 17:29:53 rudybot: (define (church->nat c) ((c add1) 0)) 17:29:53 ijp: Done. 17:30:04 rudybot: (map church->nat (list zero one two)) 17:30:04 ijp: ; Value: (0 1 2) 17:30:33 Sorry but, what's -> :) 17:30:41 threading? 17:30:43 it's part of the function's name 17:30:47 oh 17:30:48 ok 17:31:28 variable+can-have-<>all!sorts?of&wierd$characters~in/them 17:32:05 (legitimate variable name) 17:32:30 Thanks :) I just started with SICP 17:36:46 of course, the real craziness begins if you use unicode 17:42:11 Unicode is useful. It lets me take some messy asymmetric code that works on rectangles using top/bottom/left/right and instead rewrite it using equilateral variable names norş/souş/east/west 17:44:09 rudybot: (eats?  ) 17:44:10 ijp: ; Value: #t 17:44:19 totally readable 17:52:22 andres-v [~user@centraltelefonica.fruno.com] has joined #scheme 18:02:32 sambio [~sambio@190.57.227.109] has joined #scheme 18:03:38 -!- hopfrog [~quassel@pool-96-236-222-96.pitbpa.fios.verizon.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 18:03:56 hopfrog [~quassel@pool-96-236-222-96.pitbpa.fios.verizon.net] has joined #scheme 18:04:03 amgarchIn9 [~amgarchin@p4FD60741.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #scheme 18:12:46 znode [~znode@14.117.30.55] has joined #scheme 18:15:05 exodus [d4c14d3c@gateway/web/freenode/ip.212.193.77.60] has joined #scheme 18:15:09 hi 18:16:03 why in code (define a (list '+ 2 1)) display (eval a) is not working 18:16:10 but in console working 18:17:51 -!- znode [~znode@14.117.30.55] has quit [Ping 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