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Maybe not as well-used as parenscript, but I have no idea how widely used parenscript is these days. 18:28:48 -!- kunsel [~kunsel@ip-2-203-244-52.web.vodafone.de] has quit [Read error: Connection timed out] 18:29:44 kunsel [~kunsel@ip-2-203-244-52.web.vodafone.de] has joined #scheme 18:29:45 Clojure script is pretty popular right now 18:30:31 ASau [~user@176.4.17.213] has joined #scheme 18:33:45 Riastradh [~riastradh@fsf/member/riastradh] has joined #scheme 18:34:23 -!- adiii [~adityavit@NYUFGA-WLESSAUTHCLIENTS-01.NATPOOL.NYU.EDU] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 18:38:31 levi: check my survey of js lisp implementations for an overview: http://ceaude.twoticketsplease.de/js-lisps.html 18:38:39 there are quite a few Schemes 18:38:54 and the table is not even complete anymore 18:42:03 -!- Triclops256|away is now known as Triclops256 18:43:59 -!- tupi [~user@186.205.40.203] has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 18:44:11 mmc2 [~michal@178-85-64-28.dynamic.upc.nl] has joined #scheme 18:47:07 zeroish [~zeroish@135.207.174.50] has joined #scheme 18:48:04 -!- zeroish [~zeroish@135.207.174.50] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 18:48:32 zeroish [~zeroish@135.207.174.50] has joined #scheme 18:49:46 -!- yacks [~yacks@180.151.36.169] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 18:53:41 -!- amgarchIn9 [~amgarchin@p4FD60724.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [Quit: Konversation terminated!] 18:59:21 amgarchIn9 [~amgarchin@p4FD60724.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #scheme 18:59:59 tupi [~user@186.205.40.203] has joined #scheme 19:02:16 -!- Triclops256 is now known as Triclops256|away 19:02:29 jrapdx0 [~jra@c-76-115-235-187.hsd1.wa.comcast.net] has joined #scheme 19:03:40 -!- jrapdx0 [~jra@c-76-115-235-187.hsd1.wa.comcast.net] has quit [Client Quit] 19:04:13 rbarraud__ [~rbarraud@125-239-32-133.jetstream.xtra.co.nz] has joined #scheme 19:05:51 -!- jrapdx [~jra@c-76-115-235-187.hsd1.wa.comcast.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 19:07:38 jrapdx [~jra@c-76-115-235-187.hsd1.wa.comcast.net] has joined #scheme 19:07:51 kilimanjaro [~kilimanja@unaffiliated/kilimanjaro] has joined #scheme 19:11:04 -!- amgarchIn9 [~amgarchin@p4FD60724.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [Quit: Konversation terminated!] 19:20:45 arcfide [~arcfide@2001:18e8:2:10f4:ea03:9aff:fe9a:68f0] has joined #scheme 19:22:29 jao [~jao@232.Red-83-32-71.dynamicIP.rima-tde.net] has joined #scheme 19:22:33 -!- jao [~jao@232.Red-83-32-71.dynamicIP.rima-tde.net] has quit [Changing host] 19:22:33 jao [~jao@pdpc/supporter/professional/jao] has joined #scheme 19:24:32 adiii [~adityavit@NYUFGA-WLESSAUTHCLIENTS-04.NATPOOL.NYU.EDU] has joined #scheme 19:28:32 amgarchIn9 [~amgarchin@p4FD60724.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #scheme 19:32:17 toekutr [~user@50-0-51-11.dsl.static.sonic.net] has joined #scheme 19:41:01 HG` [~HG@wprt-5d834930.pool.mediaWays.net] has joined #scheme 19:43:05 DerGuteMoritz: thanks, very interesting list! 19:43:17 i was mainly looking for a compiler so that i can write javascript in an s-expression syntax :) 19:45:38 -!- kilimanjaro [~kilimanja@unaffiliated/kilimanjaro] has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 19:51:23 ecraven: I know the feeling 19:51:31 I can recommend ClojureScript from personal experience 19:51:37 ecraven: parenscript? 19:52:04 I have been using it for about 7 years or so ... but it is CL, not scheme. 19:54:22 -!- sirdancealot [~sirdancea@98.82.broadband5.iol.cz] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 19:54:33 -!- eataix [eataix@unaffiliated/eataix] has quit [Quit: ZNC - http://znc.in] 19:56:22 ASau` [~user@46.115.114.82] has joined #scheme 19:57:39 drewc: that's the problem.. I'm writing my web stuff in MIT/GNU Scheme, and that would mean I have to run a CL too 19:57:46 and it seems non-trivial to port it :) 19:58:20 -!- ASau [~user@176.4.17.213] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 20:05:12 -!- add^_ [~add^_@m37-3-22-251.cust.tele2.se] has quit [Quit: The Garbage Collector got me...] 20:05:42 -!- answer_42 [~answer_42@gateway/tor-sasl/answer42/x-66983568] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 20:06:06 sirdancealot [~sirdancea@98.82.broadband5.iol.cz] has joined #scheme 20:06:56 -!- ASau` is now known as ASau 20:07:06 -!- mmc2 [~michal@178-85-64-28.dynamic.upc.nl] has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 20:09:50 szablica [~karol@89-67-52-124.dynamic.chello.pl] has joined #scheme 20:10:24 ecraven: well, in that case, best of luck :). I am, unfortunatly, A pro web dev that uses CL, so cannot help you if you want to use a GPL'd version of an ancient scheme. Why not PLT (Racket) ? 20:12:10 drewc: historical reasons, it's the Scheme I know best. I've considered switching, but things seem to work ok so far 20:12:19 drewc: do you use weblocks? 20:12:46 no .. hells no.. because I prefer things that are not developed by a newbie :P 20:13:25 hehe, it looked interesting last time I checked.. so hunchentoot, cl-who and parenscript? 20:13:31 and elefant? 20:13:50 yes, no, no, no. 20:14:33 UCW is what I used to use, and have a 10 year old app that I still develop, support, and make my living on that using UCW and a web server that I wrote 20:14:43 nice ;) 20:14:52 but these days, use something similar to FTW 20:14:57 https://github.com/drewc/ftw 20:15:41 only the monads are based on my new monadic library rather than this: https://github.com/drewc/ftw/blob/master/dispatcher/monads.lisp 20:16:10 and the new monadic library : http://drewc.org/interface/monads.html 20:16:34 and of course, continuations : http://drewc.org/interface/monads.html#sec-6 20:17:32 answer_42 [~answer_42@gateway/tor-sasl/answer42/x-66983568] has joined #scheme 20:17:52 kilimanjaro [~kilimanja@unaffiliated/kilimanjaro] has joined #scheme 20:18:53 thanks for that link, looks interesting! 20:20:15 oh oh oh! the first time I (re)discovered monads is/was : https://github.com/drewc/smug/blob/master/smug.org 20:20:35 barryfm [~barryfm@fl-71-52-209-5.dhcp.embarqhsd.net] has joined #scheme 20:21:24 and, over the last 4 years or so, learned to love monadic types etc, and so the new interface lib has a re-implementation of SMUG as a test 20:21:33 http://drewc.org/interface/monads.html#sec-5 20:22:29 so, if you happen to have time to look/see and maybe understand etc, do not hesitate to contact me with questions/comments/hate etc :) 20:26:51 -!- kilimanjaro [~kilimanja@unaffiliated/kilimanjaro] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 20:28:05 civodul [~user@reverse-83.fdn.fr] has joined #scheme 20:33:34 przl [~przlrkt@84.191.151.169] has joined #scheme 20:38:02 Nisstyre [~yours@oftn/member/Nisstyre] has joined #scheme 20:39:13 -!- cdidd [~cdidd@176.14.158.121] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 20:39:41 -!- jonrafkind [~jon@racket/jonrafkind] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 20:41:00 drewc: i believe there's a problem in the description of ITEM (there seems to be a bit of code missing) 20:43:10 ecraven: which one? 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22:34:37 i believe it applies only to the thing directly before it 22:37:54 Hrm .. I don't see how that answers my question ? E.g.: (let-syntax ((test (syntax-rules () ((_ ignore ... (x) ...) 'x)))) (test a (b))) => () in Guile. 22:38:21 Err, sorry: (let-syntax ((test (syntax-rules () ((_ ignore ... (x) ...) (list 'x ...))))) (test a (b))) 22:40:19 I wonder how I could most cleanly guarantee non-greedy matching .. 22:43:07 -!- gravicappa [~gravicapp@ppp91-77-170-197.pppoe.mtu-net.ru] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 22:46:40 jonrafkind [~jon@racket/jonrafkind] has joined #scheme 22:47:37 -!- kuribas [~user@94-227-88-230.access.telenet.be] has quit [Quit: ERC Version 5.3 (IRC client for Emacs)] 22:52:24 -!- arcfide [~arcfide@2001:18e8:2:10f4:ea03:9aff:fe9a:68f0] has quit [Quit: Konversation terminated!] 22:54:30 -!- C-Keen [cckeen@pestilenz.org] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 22:54:52 -!- fgudin [fgudin@odin.sdf-eu.org] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 22:54:53 bipt [~bpt@cpe-071-070-253-241.nc.res.rr.com] has joined #scheme 22:55:02 fgudin [fgudin@odin.sdf-eu.org] has joined #scheme 22:55:31 C-Keen [cckeen@pestilenz.org] has joined #scheme 22:58:09 -!- huseby [~huseby@gateway/tor-sasl/huseby] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 22:59:44 snits [~snits@inet-hqmc01-o.oracle.com] has joined #scheme 23:00:04 -!- rins [~aaron@75-149-129-85-Connecticut.hfc.comcastbusiness.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 23:00:54 -!- toekutr [~user@50-0-51-11.dsl.static.sonic.net] has left #scheme 23:04:54 toekutr [~user@50-0-51-11.dsl.static.sonic.net] has joined #scheme 23:05:01 -!- civodul [~user@reverse-83.fdn.fr] has quit [Quit: ERC Version 5.3 (IRC client for Emacs)] 23:05:01 -!- snorble_ [~snorble@213.101.209.229] has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 23:10:02 -!- toekutr [~user@50-0-51-11.dsl.static.sonic.net] has left #scheme 23:19:13 przl [~przlrkt@p54BF97A9.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #scheme 23:22:31 -!- jao [~jao@pdpc/supporter/professional/jao] has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 23:23:26 -!- przl [~przlrkt@p54BF97A9.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 23:26:54 Riastradh [~riastradh@fsf/member/riastradh] has joined #scheme 23:39:56 -!- Giomancer [~gio@107.201.206.230] has quit [Quit: Ex-Chat] 23:43:08 -!- kilimanjaro [~kilimanja@unaffiliated/kilimanjaro] has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 23:48:59 -!- sirdancealot [~sirdancea@98.82.broadband5.iol.cz] has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 23:50:29 -!- francisl [~flavoie@199.84.164.114] has quit [Quit: francisl]