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http://www.postimg.com/image/97000/z1-96507.jpg 18:05:40 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=erHp3r6PbJk 18:05:50 parts 45-50 18:06:05 NNshag [user@chl45-1-88-123-84-8.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #scheme 18:06:13 -!- Nshag [user@chl45-1-88-123-84-8.fbx.proxad.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 18:06:13 another part of the code is (define dx 0.0001) 18:06:26 shouldn't it be (define dx (* x 0.0001) 18:10:45 chitofan: see the ``differential of a function'' : http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Differential_of_a_function 18:10:57 chitofan: (* x dx) 18:11:03 dx is a small x. 18:11:06 yes 18:11:13 but the lecturer wrote it as (define dx 0.0001)? 18:11:19 small x, so multiply that number by x? 18:11:23 This is good, while x is big enough. 18:11:27 chitofan: (define dx 0.0001) is just like making a name for 0.0001 18:11:38 Well, numerical algorithm usually use a fixed dx. 18:11:56 im sory i dont understand 18:12:01 in the picture 18:12:04 chitofan: dx generally means "change in x" 18:12:05 For example in a function (integral f 0 10) you could take (define dx (/ (- max min) 10000)) 18:12:11 the function takes x as an argument 18:12:12 chitofan: and it is usually a small value 18:12:24 but it doesnt apply that x to dx 18:12:24 So dx is not exactly a function of x, but a function of the range of interest of x. 18:12:29 chitofan: do you know calculus? 18:12:34 yes i know.. 18:12:41 the code isnt clicking for me sorry 18:12:48 i cant see how it works 18:13:01 chitofan: do you know c? 18:13:05 nope 18:13:14 only scheme and common lisp 18:13:16 chitofan: if so think of that line as float dx = 0.0001 ; 18:13:25 chitofan: :/ 18:13:29 dx is an infinitesimal. stop. 18:13:42 pnpuff: in his program it isn't 18:13:50 not my program 18:13:54 pnpuff: it is small, so the program can approximate 18:13:54 it comes from a lecture 18:14:02 what if x is big? 18:14:17 then its more appropriate to use (define dx (* x 0.0001))? 18:14:21 since dx is a function of x? 18:14:28 protist: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Infinitesimal 18:14:38 pnpuff: i know what you mean 18:14:51 pnpuff: i am talking about the dx in this context 18:15:12 wait, so am i just confusing myself with the maths, because any value of 0.00001 is good enough? 18:15:34 but if you have a big number, then wouldnt it be inefficient? because the program has to do the computation much more times 18:15:39 before it hits the required tolerance 18:15:49 chitofan: your teacher is just approximating by using a vary small dx he defined 18:15:52 since you make such small changes in the vlaue with each iteration 18:16:14 chitofan: you could use some ratio or fancy math for different `x'es...but your prof doesn't seem to care 18:16:32 but you guys understand whats bothering me.. right? 18:16:40 it isnt even fancy maths.. just make dx a function of x :( 18:16:41 chitofan: if your teacher defined dx that way...he should be fine with the tolerance it provides 18:17:21 chitofan: it is fancier than you think...that function may not be any better...depending on what function you were originally working with 18:17:27 -!- cdidd [~cdidd@176.14.127.97] has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 18:17:37 chitofan: the tolerance is not defined as K * dx/x 18:17:47 -!- pnpuff [~Eternit9a@unaffiliated/pnpuff] has left #scheme 18:17:52 chitofan: tolerance is a shitfest of propogation of error 18:18:11 chitofan: unless you have a simple linear equation or somthing 18:18:13 something* 18:18:36 I'm tired...goodnight #scheme 18:18:39 oh, okay 18:18:41 thanks :) 18:18:50 chitofan: you are welcome :)...good luck 18:19:47 -!- protist [~protist@125-237-130-19.jetstream.xtra.co.nz] has quit [Quit: leaving] 18:28:09 amgarchIn9 [~amgarchin@p4FD6070A.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #scheme 18:35:07 pnpuff [~Eternit9a@unaffiliated/pnpuff] has joined #scheme 18:40:11 -!- amgarchIn9 [~amgarchin@p4FD6070A.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 18:40:30 amgarchIn9 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[~user@46.115.108.110] has joined #scheme 20:39:28 I have been looking for a way to compose an email with hyperlinks in it. I found how to make a website but I need to do it through outlook or an email friendly way. Anyone have any idea how to do this? 20:42:04 http://docs.racket-lang.org/net/sendmail.html?q=sendmail&q=email 20:42:45 safekeeping__ [~safekeepi@c-68-36-167-104.hsd1.nj.comcast.net] has joined #scheme 20:42:53 -!- safekeeping [~safekeepi@c-68-36-167-104.hsd1.nj.comcast.net] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 20:43:08 pjb: Thank you, I think I looked at that and it didn't do what i needed. I will re look at it. 20:43:52 So, something like: (let ((email (send-mail-message/port "from@example.com" "a subject" '("to@example.com") '() '() ""))) (display "http://www.google.com" email) (newline email) (close email)) 20:44:48 shakes808: if you want to send something else than raw text email, you will have to pass extra headers to specify a mime encoding and a content-type, and to write the something else (eg. HTML). There are libraries to generate HTML or stuff. 20:45:08 s/close/close-output-port/ above. 20:45:08 thank you. I will try this out 20:45:46 Notice that most email MUA nowadays will transform any URL in raw text messages into an hyperlink anyways. 20:48:12 carleastlund [~cce@37.sub-174-255-96.myvzw.com] has joined #scheme 20:49:08 On the same page, there's also a send-mail-message where you pass a list of body lines. 20:53:52 Nisstyre [~yours@oftn/member/Nisstyre] has joined #scheme 20:56:11 -!- carleastlund [~cce@37.sub-174-255-96.myvzw.com] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 20:56:15 carleastlund_ [~cce@37.sub-174-255-96.myvzw.com] has joined #scheme 21:05:18 -!- noam [~noam@213.57.201.130] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 21:05:47 noam [~noam@213.57.201.130] has joined #scheme 21:19:09 -!- pessoa [~pessoa@188-195-211-39-dynip.superkabel.de] has quit [Quit: Started wasting time elsewhere] 21:22:38 stilluntrusted [~user@stgt-5f71b4bb.pool.mediaWays.net] has joined #scheme 21:27:57 -!- carleastlund_ [~cce@37.sub-174-255-96.myvzw.com] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 21:28:04 carleastlund [~cce@c-98-223-186-213.hsd1.in.comcast.net] has joined #scheme 21:28:14 -!- carleastlund [~cce@c-98-223-186-213.hsd1.in.comcast.net] has quit [Client Quit] 21:28:18 -!- adiii [~adityavit@c-76-117-52-187.hsd1.nj.comcast.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 21:31:18 escapade [~v@75-137-112-123.dhcp.gnvl.sc.charter.com] has joined #scheme 21:32:58 -!- shakes808 [42eeaac2@gateway/web/freenode/ip.66.238.170.194] has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 21:42:06 -!- Belaf [~campedel@net-93-147-57-152.cust.dsl.teletu.it] has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 21:44:56 -!- stilluntrusted [~user@stgt-5f71b4bb.pool.mediaWays.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 21:45:20 -!- masm [~masm@bl18-63-15.dsl.telepac.pt] has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 21:48:46 -!- snits [~snits@inet-hqmc02-o.oracle.com] has quit [Quit: leaving] 21:49:05 -!- gravicappa [~gravicapp@ppp91-77-176-54.pppoe.mtu-net.ru] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 21:49:49 masm [~masm@bl18-63-15.dsl.telepac.pt] has joined #scheme 21:54:28 -!- masm [~masm@bl18-63-15.dsl.telepac.pt] has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 21:56:19 Belaf [~campedel@net-93-144-29-243.cust.dsl.teletu.it] has joined #scheme 21:57:46 masm [~masm@bl18-63-15.dsl.telepac.pt] has joined #scheme 22:03:35 -!- wingo [~wingo@cha74-2-88-160-190-192.fbx.proxad.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 22:03:49 masm1 [~masm@bl18-63-15.dsl.telepac.pt] has joined #scheme 22:04:36 -!- masm [~masm@bl18-63-15.dsl.telepac.pt] has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 22:15:11 -!- masm1 [~masm@bl18-63-15.dsl.telepac.pt] has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 22:15:40 Following the R7RS mailing list, I see John Cowan mention "The Pure language, which doesn't have historical baggage" in a recent mail about the imaginary part of real numbers. What exactly is meant ? 22:16:42 masm [~masm@bl18-63-15.dsl.telepac.pt] has joined #scheme 22:21:23 -!- jrajav [~jrajav@167.68.114.6] has quit [Quit: I tend to be neutral about apples] 22:24:30 -!- tessier_ is now known as tessier 22:26:41 -!- Natch [~Natch@c-a9cfe155.25-4-64736c10.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se] has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 22:26:57 ASau` [~user@46.115.105.68] has joined #scheme 22:29:40 -!- masm [~masm@bl18-63-15.dsl.telepac.pt] has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 22:30:12 -!- ASau [~user@46.115.108.110] has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 22:33:11 Natch [~Natch@c-a9cfe155.25-4-64736c10.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se] has joined #scheme 22:34:36 -!- peterhil` [~peterhil@gatekeeper.brainalliance.com] has quit [Quit: Must not waste too much time here...] 22:38:18 masm [~masm@bl18-63-15.dsl.telepac.pt] has joined #scheme 22:38:35 -!- karswell [~coat@93-97-29-243.zone5.bethere.co.uk] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 22:39:24 huseby [~huseby@gateway/tor-sasl/huseby] has joined #scheme 22:41:20 turbofail [~user@199.27.105.215] has joined #scheme 22:42:11 Onionnion|Eee [~ryan@adsl-68-254-160-140.dsl.milwwi.ameritech.net] has joined #scheme 22:42:48 -!- masm [~masm@bl18-63-15.dsl.telepac.pt] has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 22:45:20 Oh, I see there's a programming language called "Pure". But I can't be sure how relevant it is: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pure_(programming_language) 22:48:52 karswell [~coat@93-97-29-243.zone5.bethere.co.uk] has joined #scheme 22:52:09 -!- kuribas [~user@94-227-88-230.access.telenet.be] has quit [Quit: ERC Version 5.3 (IRC client for Emacs)] 22:53:56 -!- jonrafkind [~jon@racket/jonrafkind] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 22:54:15 -!- escapade [~v@75-137-112-123.dhcp.gnvl.sc.charter.com] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 23:04:35 masm [~masm@bl18-63-15.dsl.telepac.pt] has joined #scheme 23:07:43 Gmind [~TheTrung@113.190.205.150] has joined #scheme 23:14:01 -!- civodul [~user@reverse-83.fdn.fr] has quit [Quit: ERC Version 5.3 (IRC client for Emacs)] 23:17:26 -!- klutomet1s [~klutometi@klutometis.wikitex.org] has quit [Changing host] 23:17:26 klutomet1s [~klutometi@pdpc/supporter/professional/klutometis] has joined #scheme 23:17:32 -!- klutomet1s is now known as klutometis 23:25:49 -!- Onionnion|Eee [~ryan@adsl-68-254-160-140.dsl.milwwi.ameritech.net] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 23:28:21 jonrafkind [~jon@racket/jonrafkind] has joined #scheme 23:32:15 -!- ASau` [~user@46.115.105.68] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 23:35:23 taylanub: it's not that language, but a new one the jcowan has made up recently 23:35:31 -!- samth is now known as samth_away 23:35:56 Interesting. 23:43:36 -!- add^_ [~add^_@m90-141-22-155.cust.tele2.se] has quit [Quit: The Garbage Collector got me...] 23:50:13 -!- karswell [~coat@93-97-29-243.zone5.bethere.co.uk] has quit [Remote host closed the connection]