00:09:27 -!- copumpkin [~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin] has quit [] 00:16:10 -!- ineiros [~itniemin@li271-145.members.linode.com] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 00:18:26 -!- jonrafkind [~jon@racket/jonrafkind] has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 00:25:20 -!- Blkt [~user@62.10.10.99] has quit [Quit: good night people!] 00:31:18 -!- masm [~masm@bl18-34-111.dsl.telepac.pt] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 00:31:54 copumpkin [~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin] has joined #scheme 00:33:37 -!- gffa [~unknown@unaffiliated/gffa] has quit [Quit: sleep] 00:36:37 -!- mmc [~michal@178-85-56-58.dynamic.upc.nl] has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 00:39:36 bjz [~brendanza@101.162.214.115] has joined #scheme 00:43:07 jonrafkind [~jon@racket/jonrafkind] has joined #scheme 00:44:32 aezx [~aez@68-190-58-253.dhcp.mtgm.al.charter.com] has joined #scheme 00:48:59 masm [~masm@bl18-34-111.dsl.telepac.pt] has joined #scheme 00:59:39 bipt [~bpt@cpe-071-070-253-241.nc.res.rr.com] has joined #scheme 01:12:49 -!- Natch [~Natch@c-eccde155.25-4-64736c10.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 01:55:57 -!- aezx is now known as aezx|afk 02:00:24 adiii [~adityavit@c-76-117-52-187.hsd1.nj.comcast.net] has joined #scheme 02:06:46 -!- adiii [~adityavit@c-76-117-52-187.hsd1.nj.comcast.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 02:06:56 -!- frater_sx [~maladomin@unaffiliated/frater-sx/x-2382018] has quit [Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.89 [SeaMonkey 2.10.1/20120615050225]] 02:08:53 -!- Fare [fare@nat/google/x-cbnvqhyituplkiwg] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 02:11:19 -!- aezx|afk is now known as aezx 02:11:24 adiii [~adityavit@c-76-117-52-187.hsd1.nj.comcast.net] has joined #scheme 02:24:01 Fare [~fare@173-9-65-97-NewEngland.hfc.comcastbusiness.net] has joined #scheme 02:27:12 dnolen [~user@cpe-74-64-61-245.nyc.res.rr.com] has joined #scheme 02:49:36 -!- dnolen [~user@cpe-74-64-61-245.nyc.res.rr.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 02:49:49 masm1 [~masm@bl18-53-16.dsl.telepac.pt] has joined #scheme 02:50:50 -!- masm [~masm@bl18-34-111.dsl.telepac.pt] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 02:52:17 -!- masm1 [~masm@bl18-53-16.dsl.telepac.pt] has quit [Client Quit] 03:01:52 -!- Sorella [~quildreen@oftn/member/Sorella] has quit [Quit: (quit :reason 'sleep)] 03:14:46 -!- amgarchIn9 [~amgarchin@p4FD61ACB.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [Quit: Konversation terminated!] 03:16:03 JuanDaugherty [~Ren@cpe-72-228-190-243.buffalo.res.rr.com] has joined #scheme 03:20:13 jcowan [~John@mail.digitalkingdom.org] has joined #scheme 03:21:06 -!- MrFahrenheit [~RageOfTho@77.221.31.207] has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 03:23:06 hoi 03:23:14 -!- kilimanjaro [~kilimanja@unaffiliated/kilimanjaro] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 03:39:59 -!- spiderweb [~lcc@unaffiliated/lcc] has quit [Quit: leaving] 03:44:19 -!- mjonsson [~mjonsson@38.109.95.133] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 03:45:30 dsmith [~dsmith@cpe-184-56-129-232.neo.res.rr.com] has joined #scheme 03:54:13 Aethaeryn [~Michael@wesnoth/umc-dev/developer/aethaeryn] has joined #scheme 03:54:29 z1 [~z3@60.7.33.89] has joined #scheme 03:54:57 kilimanjaro [~kilimanja@unaffiliated/kilimanjaro] has joined #scheme 03:56:25 ijp: I have a little bit less of a toy than http://tinyurl.com/ad86fqv now. :-) 03:56:27 https://github.com/Aethaeryn/Orange/blob/5521f97b208085e5878709c404ee1f5eae52cdf2/translate.scm 03:56:28 http://tinyurl.com/cxs9dc3 03:57:22 It's probably nowhere near ideal, but, hey, I'm learning Scheme by writing a Scheme. 03:59:01 I'm probably a day away from having a workable subset of JavaScript, and then I'll get to the real work. I guess this is taking longer than Scheme 48 took. 04:04:23 ijp: Your criticisms and encouragements to quit have been very inspiring. 04:04:54 I never told you to quit, I told you not to start :) 04:06:12 Oh, this is an incredibly foolish project. I'm taking one of the most syntactically beautiful languages in the world and compiling it to one of the most syntactically ugly languages. 04:06:55 With lots of upcoming, difficult issues that will lead this to take probably a few years of my life to get usable. 04:07:24 but, I've lodged my disagreement, and if you still want to go ahead, then do so 04:09:57 b4283 [~b4283@1-172-80-47.dynamic.hinet.net] has joined #scheme 04:10:58 -!- b4283 [~b4283@1-172-80-47.dynamic.hinet.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 04:14:25 I hope one day to have it working enough to wind up on http://ceaude.twoticketsplease.de/js-lisps.html 04:14:28 :-P 04:14:41 b4283 [~b4283@1-172-80-47.dynamic.hinet.net] has joined #scheme 04:21:40 -!- jao [~jao@pdpc/supporter/professional/jao] has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 04:24:20 A language is the libraries, though. 04:26:17 a box of libraries? 04:31:28 -!- Fare [~fare@173-9-65-97-NewEngland.hfc.comcastbusiness.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 04:33:11 hm, suggests "a stack of librarians". not sure about "libraries" 04:38:35 I just hope that r7rs-large gets standardized, finalized, and implemented at some point in the future. It would help with portable code between all r7rs implementations, especially for r7rs-large libraries that could be written in r7rs-small. 04:39:54 lol 04:40:09 Well, if you like Scheme (at least R[67]RS) is *all* libraries. 04:40:35 I mean, there are constants, function call, variable reference, and -- identifiers in libraries. 04:45:48 s/like/like, 04:46:16 -!- aezx [~aez@68-190-58-253.dhcp.mtgm.al.charter.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 04:46:42 aezx [~aez@68-190-58-253.dhcp.mtgm.al.charter.com] has joined #scheme 04:48:55 jcowan: Do you mean that all libraries are writable in Scheme? 04:49:24 not a chance 04:49:27 No, I just mean that most languages have a fixed syntax and libraries for procedure abstraction. 04:49:40 Scheme libraries can and do contain both syntax and procedure abstraction. 04:52:06 Without importing a library of some sort, all you have is constants. 05:10:26 -!- jcowan [~John@mail.digitalkingdom.org] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 05:14:31 -!- adiii [~adityavit@c-76-117-52-187.hsd1.nj.comcast.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 05:14:47 -!- fantazo_ [~fantazo@91-119-192-149.dynamic.xdsl-line.inode.at] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 05:32:32 yours_truly [~yours@c-208-90-102-250.netflash.net] has joined #scheme 05:34:47 -!- yours_truly [~yours@c-208-90-102-250.netflash.net] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 05:42:09 covi [~covi@wasp.dreamhost.com] has joined #scheme 05:42:21 Does cons-stream take a value and a promise? 05:44:24 Looks like it takes two values, and delays the second 05:58:55 Stacky [84aa2def@gateway/web/freenode/ip.132.170.45.239] has joined #scheme 05:59:20 Hey everyone 05:59:38 Hey Stacky! 05:59:44 *offby1* suddenly thinks of pancackes 06:00:10 .oO(pancakes) 06:00:15 quick scheme question; my friend needs to know if there's an implementation-independent way to list the files in a directory 06:00:19 e.g. call ls 06:00:57 of course not, it's scheme 06:01:05 ahaha 06:02:07 yeah :-| 06:02:18 there's pretty much _no_ implementation-independent way to do anything useful 06:03:03 well thanks anyway lol 06:04:05 I wouldn't suppose there's a function to figure out what implementation it is :D 06:04:12 hmm, spells wraps six, that's probably the best you can do 06:04:43 Stacky: not a function, but you might be able to get away with cond-expand 06:05:38 Stacky: _if_ the Scheme follows the R6RS standard, I think there's something in there that helps your program figure out which implementation it's running under. 06:05:58 But I don't think it's useful to write a portable scheme program. Instead, pick an implementation that you like, and just use it. 06:06:32 offby1: not quite, there is a convention for naming files with .impl.sls if it contains implementations specific code, and implementations are to pick the right one 06:06:58 which is roughly the same purpose of cond-expand 06:07:54 it's kinda eh, but it's often good enough 06:08:22 Yeah, the problem is that he's in a sort of contest, and one of the things he's gotta do includes running ls or something similar 06:08:43 and he doesn't know which scheme the server or whatever is running 06:09:02 if this is similar to the guy on #guile earlier try (banner) 06:09:03 crazy 06:09:21 the answer he got was racket 5.2 06:10:20 alright I'll tell him to check it out 06:10:58 which, made sense to me, since racket has a decent sandbox 06:14:31 rudybot: have you cleaned your sandbox recently? 06:14:33 *offby1: and cleaned. 06:14:37 good boy 06:15:48 z2 [~z3@60.7.36.253] has joined #scheme 06:16:10 -!- Onionnion|Eee [~ryan@adsl-68-254-160-100.dsl.milwwi.ameritech.net] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 06:18:12 sw2wolf [~user@118.112.157.228] has joined #scheme 06:19:32 -!- z1 [~z3@60.7.33.89] has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 06:21:11 -!- sw2wolf [~user@118.112.157.228] has quit [Client Quit] 06:22:23 -!- jonrafkind [~jon@racket/jonrafkind] has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 06:24:49 Cool, turns out it's racket 5.2 06:24:57 I guess the guy on #guile is doing the same thing 06:25:11 right, a security contest or some such 06:25:38 yep 06:27:32 *offby1* feels more secure already 06:28:04 rudybot: lock down the doors, this is a magenta alert. I repeat, magenta. 06:28:05 ijp: You may also try: (progn (set-background-color "yellow") (set-foreground-color "magenta")) 06:30:09 fantazo_ [~fantazo@91-119-192-149.dynamic.xdsl-line.inode.at] has joined #scheme 06:30:51 answer_42 [~user@ip82-139-81-70.lijbrandt.net] has joined #scheme 06:32:48 joekarma [~joekarma@70-36-57-169.dyn.novuscom.net] has joined #scheme 06:56:12 -!- kilimanjaro [~kilimanja@unaffiliated/kilimanjaro] has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 07:01:11 -!- sonstwo [~garland@unaffiliated/ffs] has quit [Quit: Wheels within wheels In a spiral array] 07:02:55 Well, thanks for your help everyone 07:03:12 we've managed it after learning a little bit of Racket 07:03:19 it's appreciated :D 07:05:07 cross [cross@spitfire.i.gajendra.net] has joined #scheme 07:11:40 nejucomo [~nejucomo@gateway/tor-sasl/nejucomo] has joined #scheme 07:13:39 -!- nejucomo [~nejucomo@gateway/tor-sasl/nejucomo] has quit [Quit: leaving] 07:26:21 -!- joekarma [~joekarma@70-36-57-169.dyn.novuscom.net] has left #scheme 07:30:27 gravicappa [~gravicapp@ppp91-77-163-123.pppoe.mtu-net.ru] has joined #scheme 07:33:06 nejucomo [~nejucomo@gateway/tor-sasl/nejucomo] has joined #scheme 08:10:05 -!- Aethaeryn [~Michael@wesnoth/umc-dev/developer/aethaeryn] has left #scheme 08:12:28 -!- Nisstyre-laptop [~yours@oftn/member/Nisstyre] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 08:20:50 -!- cdidd [~cdidd@176.14.146.148] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 08:22:24 cdidd [~cdidd@95-26-120-76.broadband.corbina.ru] has joined #scheme 08:31:17 -!- Stacky [84aa2def@gateway/web/freenode/ip.132.170.45.239] has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 08:34:07 Someone should fix the font on http://www.r6rs.org/final/html/r6rs/r6rs-Z-H-7.html#node_chap_4 for the literal characters. 08:34:38 I had to type expressions into a repl to figure out which single quotes were which. :-( 08:34:56 Do any of the r6rs.org folks hang out here? 08:53:51 -!- fantazo_ [~fantazo@91-119-192-149.dynamic.xdsl-line.inode.at] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 08:59:56 mmc [~michal@178-85-56-58.dynamic.upc.nl] has joined #scheme 09:04:01 kilon [~kilon@unaffiliated/thekilon] has joined #scheme 09:34:47 -!- kilon [~kilon@unaffiliated/thekilon] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 09:38:03 kilon [~kilon@unaffiliated/thekilon] has joined #scheme 09:46:03 -!- nejucomo [~nejucomo@gateway/tor-sasl/nejucomo] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 09:59:54 spiderweb [~lcc@unaffiliated/lcc] has joined #scheme 10:08:17 -!- taylanub [tub@p4FD93686.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Disconnected by services] 10:08:28 taylanub [tub@p4FD93880.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #scheme 10:24:58 gffa [~unknown@unaffiliated/gffa] has joined #scheme 10:41:06 -!- spiderweb [~lcc@unaffiliated/lcc] has quit [Quit: leaving] 10:45:57 amgarchIn9 [~amgarchin@p4FD619D5.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #scheme 10:59:17 -!- amgarchIn9 [~amgarchin@p4FD619D5.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [Quit: Konversation terminated!] 11:00:10 MrFahrenheit [~RageOfTho@77.221.31.207] has joined #scheme 11:07:36 masm [~masm@bl18-53-16.dsl.telepac.pt] has joined #scheme 11:26:08 Natch [~Natch@c-eccde155.25-4-64736c10.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se] has joined #scheme 11:27:26 Sorella [~quildreen@oftn/member/Sorella] has joined #scheme 11:40:37 ffs [~garland@unaffiliated/ffs] has joined #scheme 11:51:47 -!- copumpkin [~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin] has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 11:52:17 copumpkin [~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin] has joined #scheme 11:58:17 Blkt [~user@62.10.10.99] has joined #scheme 12:02:01 -!- hiroaki [~hiroaki@77-20-78-82-dynip.superkabel.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 12:05:07 dzhus [~dzhus@95-31-27-234.broadband.corbina.ru] has joined #scheme 12:13:17 hiroaki [~hiroaki@p5B04A0CF.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #scheme 13:04:02 -!- Sorella [~quildreen@oftn/member/Sorella] has quit [Quit: (quit :reason 'sleep)] 13:06:00 mjonsson [~mjonsson@38.109.95.133] has joined #scheme 13:10:46 fantazo [~fantazo@91-119-192-149.dynamic.xdsl-line.inode.at] has joined #scheme 13:18:08 neworder [~chatzilla@137.132.29.58] has joined #scheme 13:18:22 Hi guys 13:18:30 I'm reading the little schemer 13:18:44 I came across S-expressions 13:18:48 I googled them 13:18:53 and wikipedia said this 13:19:19 an atom, or an expression of the form (x . y) where x and y are s-expressions 13:19:32 what does the . in (x.y) mean 13:19:34 ? 13:22:19 just notation for (cons x y) 13:23:25 Sorella [~quildreen@oftn/member/Sorella] has joined #scheme 13:24:24 ventonegro [~alex@20-126.199-178.cust.bluewin.ch] has joined #scheme 13:39:06 -!- z2 [~z3@60.7.36.253] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 13:42:01 -!- neworder [~chatzilla@137.132.29.58] has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 13:45:15 -!- Sorella [~quildreen@oftn/member/Sorella] has quit [Quit: (quit :reason 'sleep)] 13:49:49 -!- mmc [~michal@178-85-56-58.dynamic.upc.nl] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 13:50:01 neworder [~chatzilla@137.132.29.58] has joined #scheme 13:51:13 hmm 13:51:36 If x and y are s-expressions 13:51:51 then where is the operator in between them? 13:52:00 Ehh, sorry, quite confused 13:52:04 For example, 13:52:19 (2+3) + (4+5) 13:52:32 ? 13:52:45 (+ (+ 2 3) (+ 4 5)) 13:52:56 Hmm 13:53:36 That is in the form (x.y) right 13:54:32 -!- ijp [~user@host86-183-34-11.range86-183.btcentralplus.com] has quit [Read error: Operation timed out] 13:54:50 what's your question? 13:56:31 Look at something like: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cons#Lists 13:59:08 Although, note that the empty list is written '() in Scheme and isn't called nil. 13:59:51 ok 14:00:01 For this expression, (+ (+ 2 3) (+ 4 5)) 14:00:11 I know it's a s-expression 14:00:26 if I were to break it in the form (x.y) 14:00:30 How would I break it? 14:01:40 (+ . ((+ 2 3) (+ 4 5))) 14:01:58 Ah! 14:02:00 haha 14:02:03 Gosh 14:02:25 Where the y is itself an s-expression which can be recursively broken down. 14:02:26 a bit easier: (+ 1 2) -> (cons + (cons 1 (cons 2 '()))) 14:02:56 Hmm I see 14:05:14 thanks 14:05:32 I always read S-expressions as Scheme expressions 14:05:46 It's supposed to symbolic expressions right 14:06:26 Yes. They're older than Scheme and used in other Lisps too. 14:06:46 hmm ok 14:07:49 -!- ventonegro [~alex@20-126.199-178.cust.bluewin.ch] has quit [Quit: ventonegro] 14:08:56 It's all just pairs! (and nil) 14:10:22 youlysses [~user@75-132-17-145.dhcp.stls.mo.charter.com] has joined #scheme 14:10:46 Fare [~fare@173-9-65-97-NewEngland.hfc.comcastbusiness.net] has joined #scheme 14:17:11 youlysse` [~user@75-132-17-145.dhcp.stls.mo.charter.com] has joined #scheme 14:17:34 -!- youlysse` [~user@75-132-17-145.dhcp.stls.mo.charter.com] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 14:17:34 -!- youlysses [~user@75-132-17-145.dhcp.stls.mo.charter.com] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 14:17:58 ventonegro [~alex@20-126.199-178.cust.bluewin.ch] has joined #scheme 14:21:59 Alright 14:22:04 I have another question 14:22:30 In the book, it says (n+3) is an S-expression 14:22:38 where? 14:22:41 And therefore it can serve as an argument 14:23:03 which page are you on? 14:23:04 "The Little schemer" pg 98 14:23:56 ah 14:23:58 can you give an example pls 14:24:03 of what? 14:24:21 Example of (n+3) being used as an argument to a function 14:24:59 (n + 3) may be a valid s-expression it is not valid scheme 14:25:17 and the example would be (2 + (n + 3)) 14:25:23 n+3 is a valid Scheme symbol though 14:25:35 DerGuteMoritz: the book writes it with spaces 14:25:40 ah ok 14:25:44 don't have it at hand right now 14:25:51 neworder: be sure to type out spaces, they matter 14:26:10 oh ok 14:26:19 it is just used to do some kind of transition from arithmetic expression towards s-expressions 14:26:48 youlysse` [~user@75-132-17-145.dhcp.stls.mo.charter.com] has joined #scheme 14:27:23 neworder: what the book shows you there is not valid scheme syntax 14:27:41 neworder: scheme uses prefix notation 14:27:42 I see 14:27:55 (+ 2 3) 14:27:59 Like this right 14:28:00 yes 14:28:11 likewise (+ n 3) 14:28:41 -!- youlysse` [~user@75-132-17-145.dhcp.stls.mo.charter.com] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 14:28:46 and then you can use it as an argument to further functions 14:28:53 mmc [~michal@178-85-56-58.dynamic.upc.nl] has joined #scheme 14:28:56 (- 5 (+ n 3)) 14:29:01 for example 14:29:09 Hmm ok 14:31:40 -!- samth_away is now known as samth 14:44:58 dodo__ [~dodo@199.119.201.138] has joined #scheme 14:48:43 adiii [~adityavit@c-76-117-52-187.hsd1.nj.comcast.net] has joined #scheme 14:49:15 youlysses [~user@75-132-17-145.dhcp.stls.mo.charter.com] has joined #scheme 14:52:25 -!- githogori [~githogori@c-69-181-109-127.hsd1.ca.comcast.net] has quit [Read error: Operation timed out] 14:57:14 -!- neworder [~chatzilla@137.132.29.58] has left #scheme 15:10:53 attila_lendvai [~attila_le@92.46.29.88] has joined #scheme 15:10:53 -!- attila_lendvai [~attila_le@92.46.29.88] has quit [Changing host] 15:10:53 attila_lendvai [~attila_le@unaffiliated/attila-lendvai/x-3126965] has joined #scheme 15:25:18 kilon_alios [~kilon@178.128.201.114.dsl.dyn.forthnet.gr] has joined #scheme 15:26:12 -!- kilon [~kilon@unaffiliated/thekilon] has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 15:30:19 rmathews [~roshan@117.193.192.255] has joined #scheme 15:36:59 -!- bjz [~brendanza@101.162.214.115] has quit [Quit: Leaving...] 15:45:50 -!- attila_lendvai [~attila_le@unaffiliated/attila-lendvai/x-3126965] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 15:50:01 attila_lendvai [~attila_le@unaffiliated/attila-lendvai/x-3126965] has joined #scheme 15:59:35 -!- amoe [~amoe@host-92-26-160-117.as13285.net] has quit [Quit: leaving] 15:59:57 amoe [~amoe@host-92-26-160-117.as13285.net] has joined #scheme 16:00:58 -!- ventonegro [~alex@20-126.199-178.cust.bluewin.ch] has quit [Quit: ventonegro] 16:07:51 ventonegro [~alex@20-126.199-178.cust.bluewin.ch] has joined #scheme 16:08:03 -!- cdidd [~cdidd@95-26-120-76.broadband.corbina.ru] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 16:18:57 karswell [~coat@93-97-29-243.zone5.bethere.co.uk] has joined #scheme 16:34:02 -!- acarrico [~acarrico@pppoe-68-142-51-49.gmavt.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 16:37:28 -!- attila_lendvai [~attila_le@unaffiliated/attila-lendvai/x-3126965] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 16:41:43 -!- jrslepak [~jrslepak@c-71-233-149-127.hsd1.ma.comcast.net] has quit [Quit: What happened to Systems A through E?] 16:43:40 kilimanjaro [~kilimanja@unaffiliated/kilimanjaro] has joined #scheme 16:52:37 acarrico [~acarrico@pppoe-68-142-51-49.gmavt.net] has joined #scheme 16:54:13 -!- karswell [~coat@93-97-29-243.zone5.bethere.co.uk] has quit [] 16:55:56 civodul [~user@reverse-83.fdn.fr] has joined #scheme 17:05:12 hash_table [~quassel@70-138-242-181.lightspeed.hstntx.sbcglobal.net] has joined #scheme 17:10:24 masm1 [~masm@bl18-53-16.dsl.telepac.pt] has joined #scheme 17:10:26 attila_lendvai [~attila_le@92.46.29.88] has joined #scheme 17:10:26 -!- attila_lendvai [~attila_le@92.46.29.88] has quit [Changing host] 17:10:26 attila_lendvai [~attila_le@unaffiliated/attila-lendvai/x-3126965] has joined #scheme 17:11:18 -!- masm [~masm@bl18-53-16.dsl.telepac.pt] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 17:12:35 -!- rmathews [~roshan@117.193.192.255] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 17:13:00 rmathews [~roshan@117.193.192.255] has joined #scheme 17:14:06 amgarchIn9 [~amgarchin@p4FD619D5.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #scheme 17:18:39 -!- kilimanjaro [~kilimanja@unaffiliated/kilimanjaro] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 17:20:59 -!- attila_lendvai [~attila_le@unaffiliated/attila-lendvai/x-3126965] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 17:24:20 Onionnion|Eee [~ryan@adsl-68-254-160-100.dsl.milwwi.ameritech.net] has joined #scheme 17:40:37 kilimanjaro [~kilimanja@unaffiliated/kilimanjaro] has joined #scheme 17:46:24 -!- Riastradh [~riastradh@fsf/member/riastradh] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 17:48:56 jrslepak [~jrslepak@c-24-61-11-63.hsd1.ma.comcast.net] has joined #scheme 17:51:32 klutometis: s*** I don't need which etc: my Android tablet 17:51:47 *offby1* ponders changing his nick to joydivision 17:53:25 SlitazMint [~ivar@200-160-86-63.static-user.ajato.com.br] has joined #scheme 17:55:39 -!- YokYok [~david@vmailbox.org] has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 17:56:51 -!- Sonderblade [~Sonderbla@h-52-183.a157.priv.bahnhof.se] has quit [Quit: Lämnar] 17:56:57 -!- rmathews [~roshan@117.193.192.255] has quit [Quit: Bye..] 18:11:30 -!- acarrico [~acarrico@pppoe-68-142-51-49.gmavt.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 18:13:42 -!- kilon_alios [~kilon@178.128.201.114.dsl.dyn.forthnet.gr] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 18:19:13 -!- walter [~walter@c-24-218-217-69.hsd1.ma.comcast.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 18:19:33 kilon [~kilon@unaffiliated/thekilon] has joined #scheme 18:22:34 -!- b4283 [~b4283@1-172-80-47.dynamic.hinet.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 18:24:11 offby1: Yeah; the tablet is an awkward morphology, isn't it? 18:24:18 Do you consume media with it? 18:28:00 acarrico [~acarrico@pppoe-68-142-51-49.gmavt.net] has joined #scheme 18:28:34 -!- Fare [~fare@173-9-65-97-NewEngland.hfc.comcastbusiness.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 18:33:11 *offby1* ponders 18:33:24 Well, I'll admit to consuming noodles with a fork. 18:33:31 And I'll admit to listening to music on my tablet. 18:43:03 sethalve_ [~user@headache.hungry.com] has joined #scheme 18:43:04 -!- sethalves [~user@headache.hungry.com] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 18:44:07 -!- jrslepak [~jrslepak@c-24-61-11-63.hsd1.ma.comcast.net] has quit [Quit: What happened to Systems A through E?] 18:47:17 -!- sethalve_ [~user@headache.hungry.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 18:48:48 sethalve_ [~user@headache.hungry.com] has joined #scheme 18:49:35 fantazo_ [~fantazo@91-119-196-139.dynamic.xdsl-line.inode.at] has joined #scheme 18:51:03 -!- fantazo [~fantazo@91-119-192-149.dynamic.xdsl-line.inode.at] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 18:57:13 you mean instead of chopsticks or what? 18:58:13 youlysses: oic ur here 18:58:29 JuanDaugherty: exactly! I considered saying "chopsticks" in fact. 19:00:36 nejucomo [~nejucomo@gateway/tor-sasl/nejucomo] has joined #scheme 19:04:06 -!- ventonegro [~alex@20-126.199-178.cust.bluewin.ch] has quit [Quit: ventonegro] 19:10:24 untrusted [~user@stgt-5f71a9ce.pool.mediaWays.net] has joined #scheme 19:10:57 neworder [~chatzilla@175.156.174.83] has joined #scheme 19:15:44 Euthy [~euthy@unaffiliated/euthydemus] has joined #scheme 19:22:18 githogori [~githogori@c-69-181-109-127.hsd1.ca.comcast.net] has joined #scheme 19:33:14 jrslepak [~jrslepak@c-71-233-149-127.hsd1.ma.comcast.net] has joined #scheme 19:34:18 -!- githogori [~githogori@c-69-181-109-127.hsd1.ca.comcast.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 19:38:01 Why does the book "The little schemer" define eqan? 19:38:11 I mean asks us to define eqan 19:38:19 Can't we just use eq? 19:39:37 the little schemer does some extra turns for pedagogical reasons, if you don't like that style you may want to try a different book 19:40:41 rudybot: (eq? '(1 2) '(1 2)) 19:40:41 fds: your sandbox is ready 19:40:42 fds: ; Value: #f 19:40:45 Maybe? 19:41:04 Ah I see 19:41:17 Any alternative books with clearer explanations? 19:41:31 lots of us like SICP 19:41:33 The advantage of this book is that it covers a wide range of concepts 19:41:39 Ah I see 19:41:52 The Little Schemer is excellent for what it is, in my opinion. There's always `The Scheme Programming Language' by Dybvig. 19:43:18 -!- MrFahrenheit [~RageOfTho@77.221.31.207] has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 19:43:34 I mean, if you want something more, erm, buttoned-up. 19:45:42 buttoned up meaning more interesting right? 19:45:47 =) 19:46:35 Never came across that word, compiler error :P 19:49:04 I mean `serious' or `businesslike'. I think that The Little Schemer is very interesting; though perhaps I'm simple-minded. 19:51:07 jonrafkind [~jon@racket/jonrafkind] has joined #scheme 19:51:33 Although, it's been quite a while since I read it. 20:07:26 ineiros [~itniemin@li271-145.members.linode.com] has joined #scheme 20:11:40 spiderweb [~lcc@unaffiliated/lcc] has joined #scheme 20:14:26 -!- Euthy [~euthy@unaffiliated/euthydemus] has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 20:15:59 -!- kilimanjaro [~kilimanja@unaffiliated/kilimanjaro] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 20:22:30 -!- gravicappa [~gravicapp@ppp91-77-163-123.pppoe.mtu-net.ru] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 20:30:29 -!- dodo__ [~dodo@199.119.201.138] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 20:37:36 fds: TSPL feels, to me, more like a reference than a educational tool. 20:37:47 Euthy [~euthy@unaffiliated/euthydemus] has joined #scheme 20:43:33 I'm feeling a bit confused with eqlist2? 20:43:41 An alternate version of eqlist 20:45:00 I got it.. It's ok 20:50:01 -!- untrusted [~user@stgt-5f71a9ce.pool.mediaWays.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 20:50:49 -!- Blkt [~user@62.10.10.99] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 20:50:49 danking: I agree, but it's the book I could think of that was in some sense at the other end of the spectrum from TLS. 20:53:50 -!- jrslepak [~jrslepak@c-71-233-149-127.hsd1.ma.comcast.net] has quit [Quit: What happened to Systems A through E?] 20:54:59 MrFahrenheit [~RageOfTho@77.221.31.207] has joined #scheme 20:56:06 -!- answer_42 [~user@ip82-139-81-70.lijbrandt.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 20:58:26 jrslepak [~jrslepak@c-71-233-149-127.hsd1.ma.comcast.net] has joined #scheme 21:00:53 -!- pavelpenev [~quassel@85-130-11-8.2073813645.shumen.cablebg.net] has left #scheme 21:01:47 dsp [dsp@antenora.aculei.net] has joined #scheme 21:04:59 Just curious, why do you all do scheme programming? 21:05:43 Are most people here programming in scheme for work or study 21:05:46 dnolen [~user@cpe-74-64-61-245.nyc.res.rr.com] has joined #scheme 21:06:29 neworder: Both? Scheme was the language of instruction for my intro programming course and I'm also working on a research project that is implemented in Racket. 21:07:43 githogori [~githogori@c-69-181-109-127.hsd1.ca.comcast.net] has joined #scheme 21:07:46 Ah I see 21:07:51 -!- noam [~noam@213.57.201.130] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 21:08:13 noam [~noam@213.57.201.130] has joined #scheme 21:10:06 I imagine most of us are just hobbyists and dreamers though. ;-) 21:11:57 -!- youlysses [~user@75-132-17-145.dhcp.stls.mo.charter.com] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 21:14:10 I certainly hope to either stay in research or program professionally in Scheme. 21:14:20 I suppose I could also be happy with ML or Haskell. 21:23:32 -!- tali713 [~user@c-76-17-236-129.hsd1.mn.comcast.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 21:36:08 jao [~jao@232.Red-83-32-71.dynamicIP.rima-tde.net] has joined #scheme 21:36:12 -!- jao [~jao@232.Red-83-32-71.dynamicIP.rima-tde.net] has quit [Changing host] 21:36:12 jao [~jao@pdpc/supporter/professional/jao] has joined #scheme 21:41:20 bjz [~brendanza@101.162.214.115] has joined #scheme 21:41:54 -!- bjz [~brendanza@101.162.214.115] has quit [Client Quit] 21:50:00 -!- kilon [~kilon@unaffiliated/thekilon] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 22:08:49 -!- masm1 [~masm@bl18-53-16.dsl.telepac.pt] has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 22:09:09 masm [~masm@bl18-53-16.dsl.telepac.pt] has joined #scheme 22:23:13 SanderM [~quassel@vhe-400104.sshn.net] has joined #scheme 22:24:51 -!- kanru [~kanru@kanru-1-pt.tunnel.tserv15.lax1.ipv6.he.net] has quit [Quit: ZNC - http://znc.sourceforge.net] 22:24:56 tali713 [~user@c-76-17-236-129.hsd1.mn.comcast.net] has joined #scheme 22:26:15 Riastradh [~riastradh@fsf/member/riastradh] has joined #scheme 22:31:38 Aethaeryn [~Michael@wesnoth/umc-dev/developer/aethaeryn] has joined #scheme 22:37:47 phax [~phax@unaffiliated/phax] has joined #scheme 22:40:02 -!- jonrafkind [~jon@racket/jonrafkind] has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 22:43:14 ddp [~ddp@71-83-117-69.static.reno.nv.charter.com] has joined #scheme 22:43:40 -!- ddp [~ddp@71-83-117-69.static.reno.nv.charter.com] has quit [Client Quit] 22:43:54 ddp [~ddp@71-83-117-69.static.reno.nv.charter.com] has joined #scheme 22:44:51 peterhil [~peterhil@91-157-48-10.elisa-laajakaista.fi] has joined #scheme 22:51:20 kanru [~kanru@kanru-1-pt.tunnel.tserv15.lax1.ipv6.he.net] has joined #scheme 22:55:07 -!- phax [~phax@unaffiliated/phax] has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 22:57:06 -!- nejucomo [~nejucomo@gateway/tor-sasl/nejucomo] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 22:58:35 -!- ddp [~ddp@71-83-117-69.static.reno.nv.charter.com] has quit [Quit: ddp] 22:59:31 How to take the integer part of a decimal number? e.g. 1.414 -> 1, 1.9999 - > 1, 2 -> 2 22:59:38 -!- samth is now known as samth_away 23:00:16 -!- neworder [~chatzilla@175.156.174.83] has quit [Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.89 [Firefox 16.0.2/20121024073032]] 23:00:54 nvm 23:04:42 kilimanjaro [~kilimanja@unaffiliated/kilimanjaro] has joined #scheme 23:06:55 ecraven, no, I haven't done anything with SLIME and MIT Scheme... 23:11:54 ddp [~ddp@71-83-117-69.static.reno.nv.charter.com] has joined #scheme 23:14:31 phax [~phax@unaffiliated/phax] has joined #scheme 23:16:54 -!- kilimanjaro [~kilimanja@unaffiliated/kilimanjaro] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 23:17:44 -!- gffa [~unknown@unaffiliated/gffa] has quit [Quit: sleep] 23:21:43 -!- fantazo_ [~fantazo@91-119-196-139.dynamic.xdsl-line.inode.at] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 23:26:24 -!- elliottcable is now known as ellio 23:27:34 -!- phax [~phax@unaffiliated/phax] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 23:27:47 Sorella [~quildreen@oftn/member/Sorella] has joined #scheme 23:30:44 -!- ddp [~ddp@71-83-117-69.static.reno.nv.charter.com] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 23:31:23 ddp [~ddp@71-83-117-69.static.reno.nv.charter.com] has joined #scheme 23:33:30 -!- ddp [~ddp@71-83-117-69.static.reno.nv.charter.com] has quit [Client Quit] 23:36:30 -!- SanderM [~quassel@vhe-400104.sshn.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 23:39:21 -!- Riastradh [~riastradh@fsf/member/riastradh] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 23:43:05 -!- ellio is now known as elliottcable 23:44:47 Riastradh [~riastradh@fsf/member/riastradh] has joined #scheme 23:46:40 phax [~phax@unaffiliated/phax] has joined #scheme 23:59:46 -!- phax [~phax@unaffiliated/phax] has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds]