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ympbyc [~ympbyc@220.98.6.134] has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 06:59:47 answer_42 [~answer_42@gateway/tor-sasl/answer42/x-66983568] has joined #scheme 07:01:31 nowhere_man_ [~pierre@AStrasbourg-551-1-7-40.w92-141.abo.wanadoo.fr] has joined #scheme 07:05:33 -!- nowhereman [~pierre@92.141.202.40] has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 07:06:07 spiderweb [45aba081@gateway/web/freenode/ip.69.171.160.129] has joined #scheme 07:14:55 Does anyone have an example of shit they don't need which nevertheless brings them joy? 07:14:58 Is Scheme such a thing? 07:15:56 -!- superjudge [~mjl@c83-250-198-227.bredband.comhem.se] has quit [Quit: leaving] 07:17:05 mr_vile [~carnage@9ch.in] has joined #scheme 07:22:18 -!- mr_vile [~carnage@9ch.in] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 07:22:32 mr_vile [~carnage@9ch.in] has joined #scheme 07:27:48 As far as programming languages are concerned; Scheme represents a local maximum on the axis of decadence, I think. 07:29:16 Which is ironic, given that it is as pious as a Bach-fugue: internally and externally coherent. 07:42:36 mmc [~michal@178.85.56.58] has joined #scheme 07:46:48 -!- mmc [~michal@178.85.56.58] has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 07:56:54 hkBst [~marijn@79.170.210.172] has joined #scheme 07:56:54 -!- hkBst [~marijn@79.170.210.172] has quit [Changing host] 07:56:54 hkBst [~marijn@gentoo/developer/hkbst] has joined #scheme 08:13:23 -!- spiderweb [45aba081@gateway/web/freenode/ip.69.171.160.129] has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 08:19:44 agent-p [~smuxi@s3723.dyn.hrz.tu-darmstadt.de] has joined #scheme 08:34:03 githogori [~githogori@adsl-66-123-22-146.dsl.snfc21.pacbell.net] has joined #scheme 08:39:30 githogori_ [~githogori@adsl-66-123-22-146.dsl.snfc21.pacbell.net] has joined #scheme 08:58:22 -!- pjb-v [~t@voyager.informatimago.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 08:58:57 -!- SeanTAllen [u4855@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-wolljjgwrwerirao] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 09:03:31 wingo 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Or at least I'd like to believe it's not self-indulgent. 10:46:09 But maybe that's the denial talking. 10:47:18 I've had to adopt the following axiom when foisting Scheme solutions on unsuspecting audiences, however: "Listen, smile, agree, and then do whatever the fuck you were gonna do anyway." 10:48:25 (Attributed to Robert Downey Jr., not necessarily a role-model for social behaviour.) 10:57:10 masm [~masm@188.83.34.111] has joined #scheme 11:06:04 Hm, perhaps my last message sounded too harsh. For using a language to be self-indulgent, it's got to be one worth indulging in, right? :-) One you would use for pleasure rather than stark utility. 11:16:08 Fare [fare@nat/google/x-gwvemeskhknnbjog] has joined #scheme 11:23:52 tejaswidp [~tejaswidp@117.202.97.211] has joined #scheme 11:27:52 -!- ympbyc_ [~ympbyc@p35134-ipbffx02marunouchi.tokyo.ocn.ne.jp] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 11:29:25 http://www.pastebay.net/1154964 11:29:37 I am trying to do the sicp problems 11:30:09 I have written code to find the sum of the squares of the largest 2 numbers given 3 numbers 11:30:37 The function fails for equal numbers because of the filter that I have used 11:30:47 Is there a way around this? 11:35:57 What do you mean by `fails'? What actually happens? And what do you want to happen? 11:41:59 add^_ [~add^_@m90-130-55-102.cust.tele2.se] has joined #scheme 11:47:36 -!- hkBst [~marijn@gentoo/developer/hkbst] has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 11:49:46 ...Nothing? Can you write a program that takes three numbers and returns a list containing the two largest? 11:52:38 -!- tejaswidp [~tejaswidp@117.202.97.211] has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 11:54:33 tejaswidp [~tejaswidp@117.202.105.0] has joined #scheme 12:02:10 hkBst [~marijn@gentoo/developer/hkbst] has joined #scheme 12:07:05 b4283 [~b4283@1-172-86-95.dynamic.hinet.net] has joined #scheme 12:10:14 -!- antoszka [~antoszka@unaffiliated/antoszka] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 12:15:13 -!- tejaswidp [~tejaswidp@117.202.105.0] has quit [Quit: leaving] 12:15:25 -!- b4283 [~b4283@1-172-86-95.dynamic.hinet.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 12:15:46 b4283 [~b4283@1-172-86-95.dynamic.hinet.net] has joined #scheme 12:17:09 gravicappa [~gravicapp@91.77.163.111] has joined #scheme 12:33:06 -!- cmatei [~cmatei@95.76.22.68] has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 12:48:02 cmatei [~cmatei@95.76.22.68] has joined #scheme 12:48:47 i used a slightly simpler approach, without even 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[Changing host] 15:33:17 jao [~jao@pdpc/supporter/professional/jao] has joined #scheme 15:46:58 jcowan [~John@mail.digitalkingdom.org] has joined #scheme 15:47:28 -!- jcowan [~John@mail.digitalkingdom.org] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 15:50:23 agent-p [~smuxi@s3078.dyn.hrz.tu-darmstadt.de] has joined #scheme 15:56:39 jitty [~jitty@s0667.dyn.hrz.tu-darmstadt.de] has joined #scheme 15:56:44 hello 15:57:19 hi! 15:57:26 good morning! 16:01:12 i really try to learn racket, but itīs a little bit complicated to me .. I try now to programm a Morse Code in Racket 16:01:42 But I didnīt understand what I really have to do to design and program the trees 16:01:46 I have this : 16:02:07 (define-struct node (letter code left right)) 16:02:28 but I canīt write anything else could anyone help ? 16:04:48 nowhere_man [~pierre@AStrasbourg-551-1-7-40.w92-141.abo.wanadoo.fr] has joined #scheme 16:06:16 hmmm :D 16:06:49 ( define mini-morsetree 16:06:54 (make-node "" gap 16:07:00 (make-node "A" short 16:07:05 (make-node "B" short empty empty) 16:07:09 (make-node "C" long empty empty)) 16:07:17 (make-node "D" long 16:07:24 (make-node "E" short empty empty) 16:07:30 (make-node "F" long empty empty)))) 16:07:31 :D 16:08:03 (define gap '/) 16:08:20 (define long-gap '_) 16:08:29 (define long '-) 16:08:33 -!- jrslepak [~jrslepak@c-76-119-140-75.hsd1.ma.comcast.net] has quit [Quit: What happened to Systems A through E?] 16:08:37 (define short '*) 16:08:39 ;) 16:13:03 Riastradh [~riastradh@fsf/member/riastradh] has joined #scheme 16:15:34 -!- hkBst [~marijn@gentoo/developer/hkbst] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 16:16:00 jitty: you might want to work through "How to Design Programs" (HtDP), which was designed specifically for use with Racket. 16:16:58 -!- mmc1 [~michal@85.90.76.130] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 16:17:40 mmc [~michal@85.90.76.130] has joined #scheme 16:18:19 jrslepak [~jrslepak@nomad.ccs.neu.edu] has joined #scheme 16:22:12 agent-p: if you draw the morse alphabet as a tree usually the edges imply the code to be used 16:23:12 C-Keen yes exactely ;) 16:23:50 mark_weaver: thanks , i know that book but racket is rather complicate. 16:24:14 ok 16:24:54 thanks everyone but i must go offline now 16:24:57 bye 16:25:20 -!- jitty [~jitty@s0667.dyn.hrz.tu-darmstadt.de] has quit [] 16:27:32 jitty [jitty@s0667.dyn.hrz.tu-darmstadt.de] has joined #scheme 16:28:39 -!- jitty [jitty@s0667.dyn.hrz.tu-darmstadt.de] has quit [Client Quit] 16:32:26 ddp [~ddp@71-83-117-69.static.reno.nv.charter.com] has joined #scheme 16:32:36 -!- ddp [~ddp@71-83-117-69.static.reno.nv.charter.com] has quit [Client Quit] 16:38:22 -!- mark_weaver [~user@209.6.91.212] has quit [Quit: ERC Version 5.3 (IRC client for Emacs)] 16:46:56 carleastlund [~cce@gotham.ccs.neu.edu] has joined #scheme 16:49:43 -!- masm [~masm@188.83.34.111] has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 16:56:14 -!- confab [~confab@086.112-30-64.ftth.swbr.surewest.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 16:57:57 confab [~confab@64.30.112.86] has joined #scheme 16:57:58 astertronistic [~astertron@ip70-181-247-103.sd.sd.cox.net] has joined #scheme 16:58:53 -!- wingo [~wingo@83.54.7.88] has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 16:59:02 masm [~masm@bl18-34-111.dsl.telepac.pt] has joined #scheme 17:01:26 MichaelRaskin [~MichaelRa@195.91.224.225] has joined #scheme 17:02:14 samth [~samth@racket/samth] has joined #scheme 17:02:36 -!- astertronistic [~astertron@ip70-181-247-103.sd.sd.cox.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 17:04:02 attila_lendvai [~attila_le@unaffiliated/attila-lendvai/x-3126965] has joined #scheme 17:06:05 -!- agent-p [~smuxi@s3078.dyn.hrz.tu-darmstadt.de] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 17:07:05 neworder [~chatzilla@175.156.174.83] has joined #scheme 17:08:30 -!- masm [~masm@bl18-34-111.dsl.telepac.pt] has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 17:08:58 langmartin [~user@host-68-169-175-226.WISOLT2.epbfi.com] has joined #scheme 17:10:56 Hi guys 17:11:33 I asked this question on the Prolog channel but it's so quiet in there so came here 17:11:43 I wanted to know whether "The reasoned Schemer" would be a good way to start with Prolog 17:12:26 I have a exam coming up real soon on Logic Programming which I have not prepared for yet! 17:12:38 I found "The little schemer" to be effective in teaching me recursion 17:12:47 That's why I'm considering "The reasoned Schemer" 17:12:50 neworder, The Reasoned Schemer will introduce you to logic programming as a programming technique. It will not introduce you to the specifics of Prolog, however; it uses a different language. 17:13:30 If you got good mileage out of The Little Schemer, and need to learn logic programming, I'd definitely say The Reasoned Schemer would be a good starting point. 17:13:51 Hmm 17:14:17 Do you think it would take a long time to convert those logic programming concepts directly into Prolog? 17:14:37 I mean the concepts learned in the reasoned schemer book 17:15:20 -!- wbooze [~wbooze@xdsl-87-79-192-151.netcologne.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 17:15:40 -!- untrusted [~user@95.113.131.132] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 17:15:50 wbooze [~wbooze@xdsl-87-79-194-51.netcologne.de] has joined #scheme 17:24:06 huseby [~huseby@home.husebyhome.com] has joined #scheme 17:27:14 masm [~masm@bl18-34-111.dsl.telepac.pt] has joined #scheme 17:30:19 -!- b4283 [~b4283@1-172-86-95.dynamic.hinet.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 17:31:46 -!- huseby [~huseby@home.husebyhome.com] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 17:37:11 neworder, I suspect not, I don't think the two languages are too hugely different. I mean, if The Little Schemer teaches recursion, you can use that in other languages, right? I'd say The Reasoned Schemer should transfer to Prolog just as well. 17:37:43 Ah great, thanks carleastlund 17:37:44 You could always write the authors of the book, I'm sure they're familiar enough with Prolog to have something to say about the relationship. I'm not much of a Prolog or Reasoned Schemer buff myself. 17:40:50 Hmm alright 17:41:41 huseby [~huseby@home.husebyhome.com] has joined #scheme 17:45:57 -!- ijp [~user@host31-53-169-133.range31-53.btcentralplus.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 17:51:23 -!- answer_42 [~answer_42@gateway/tor-sasl/answer42/x-66983568] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 17:55:01 answer_42 [~answer_42@gateway/tor-sasl/answer42/x-66983568] has joined #scheme 17:57:12 mark_weaver [~user@TURNTABLE.MIT.EDU] has joined #scheme 17:59:06 kilimanjaro [~kilimanja@unaffiliated/kilimanjaro] has joined #scheme 18:05:48 taylanub [tub@p4FD91F2F.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #scheme 18:07:48 -!- neworder [~chatzilla@175.156.174.83] has quit [Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.89 [Firefox 16.0.2/20121024073032]] 18:15:51 Blkt [~user@62.10.10.99] has joined #scheme 18:16:26 -!- MichaelRaskin [~MichaelRa@195.91.224.225] has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 18:18:00 jonrafkind [~jon@racket/jonrafkind] has joined #scheme 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