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[~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin] has joined #scheme 13:43:20 burial [burial@109.121.235.33] has joined #scheme 13:44:09 Can anyone explain why this ((lambda (x y) (x y 2)) (lambda (x y) (+ x x)) 1) returns 2? 13:44:24 (lambda (x y) (+ x x)) and 1 are arguments for (lambda (x y) (x y 2)) right ? 13:44:40 but (lambda (x y) (+ x x)) returns nothing 13:45:44 -!- peterhil` [~peterhil@gatekeeper.brainalliance.com] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 13:46:21 peterhil` [~peterhil@gatekeeper.brainalliance.com] has joined #scheme 13:46:51 anyone here? :) 13:47:00 just do it by substitition 13:47:00 burial: (lambda (x y) (+ x x)) yelds a procedure object, which can be "called". 13:47:03 ((lambda (x y) (x y 2)) (lambda (x y) (+ x x)) 1) 13:47:05 ((lambda (x y) (x y 2)) (lambda (x y) (+ x x)) 1) 13:47:09 ((lambda (x y) (+ x x)) 1 2) 13:47:11 ((lambda (x y) (+ x x)) 1 2) 13:47:12 2 13:48:33 still not understanding it :) 13:48:56 why I don't get error for this (lambda (x y) (+ x x)) as I pass only one parameter that is 1 13:49:37 #;1> (lambda (x) x) 13:49:37 # 13:49:37 #;2> ((lambda (x) x) 1) 13:49:37 1 13:49:40 no, it getps passed two arguments, a one and a two 13:49:42 get's 13:49:46 burial: ^does that make sense? 13:50:35 draw diagram for clarity perhaps 13:50:59 or re-label the second lambda's arguments from x y to a b to make it a little less confusing 13:52:00 -!- nowhere_man [~pierre@AStrasbourg-551-1-65-215.w92-141.abo.wanadoo.fr] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 13:52:12 it's my first day with scheme :) it's little confusing 13:52:13 jao [~user@164.Red-83-32-68.dynamicIP.rima-tde.net] has joined #scheme 13:52:20 -!- jao [~user@164.Red-83-32-68.dynamicIP.rima-tde.net] has quit [Changing host] 13:52:20 jao [~user@pdpc/supporter/professional/jao] has joined #scheme 13:52:44 relabling that would make it clearer perhaps 13:52:52 just an fyi, if you don't get an answer immediately on IRC, that's normal. 13:54:49 I guess I have to read more before understanding how lambda works 13:54:55 nowhere_man [~pierre@AStrasbourg-551-1-65-215.w92-141.abo.wanadoo.fr] has joined #scheme 13:55:12 burial: does this help understanding it http://paste.lisp.org/display/131561 ? 13:55:13 burial: have you programmed before? 13:55:50 yes, I have experience with js and php :) 13:56:07 burial: it's a Common Lisp stepper/tracer, so we have to add FUNCALLs, but the semantics should match Scheme there. 13:56:12 you can do simmilar lambda expressions in JS 13:56:23 You could write a similar stepper for scheme. 13:56:34 burial: lambda is what js calls 'function' 13:57:04 burial: lambdas create procedure objects, which can be stored in variables, given as arguments to other procedires and returned as return value from procedures. They are said to be first class objects for those reasons. So (lambda (x) x) is an anonymous procedure. If you ask the scheme system to tell you what it is, it'll say something like # to indiecate that it is a procedure object. The syntax to apply a procedure 13:57:04 to its arguments is ( ), so, in the case of anonymous procedures, you do ((lambda (x) x) 1). 13:57:27 might look less confusion in JS because its syntax seperates different elements more clearly 13:57:39 *ijp* bows out to avoid "too many cooks" syndrome 13:58:44 xwl [~user@182.48.111.224] has joined #scheme 14:00:42 phao [~phao@187.1.244.213] has joined #scheme 14:17:33 -!- gabot [~eli@racket/bot/gabot] has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 14:17:53 -!- eli [~eli@racket/eli] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 14:17:57 mucker [~mucker@183.83.240.198] has joined #scheme 14:21:18 tejaswidp [~tejaswidp@117.202.22.96] has joined #scheme 14:22:23 gabot [~eli@racket/bot/gabot] has joined #scheme 14:22:52 -!- ijp [~user@host86-174-96-191.range86-174.btcentralplus.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 14:26:23 eli [~eli@winooski.ccs.neu.edu] has joined #scheme 14:26:24 -!- eli [~eli@winooski.ccs.neu.edu] has quit [Changing host] 14:26:24 eli 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