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It sticks the item on the end that makes sense for the underlying data. 04:31:52 There's a bit in the implementation of conj that calls itself recursively, but that only happens when you use the second arglist form that has multiple xs to add to the coll, so it must call the more primitive version multiple times. 04:33:29 bfgun [~b_fin_g@r186-52-154-194.dialup.adsl.anteldata.net.uy] has joined #scheme 04:33:43 -!- bfig [~b_fin_g@r186-52-137-146.dialup.adsl.anteldata.net.uy] has quit [Disconnected by services] 04:33:51 -!- bfgun is now known as bfig 04:34:54 Clojure is not really my cup of tea, but its implementors are not idiots, and if you think something fundamental looks horribly wrong, you probably just don't understand why it was done that way. 04:36:28 -!- MrFahrenheit [~RageOfTho@cable-77-221-31-173.dynamic.vinet.ba] has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 04:36:52 tupi [~david@189.118.124.201] has joined #scheme 04:47:03 -!- fold [~fold@71-8-117-85.dhcp.ftwo.tx.charter.com] has 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Their vectors are not are not like Scheme's; it seems more like some tree of sorts, and does not have O(1) indexing, but that would make adding an element a lot faster than a normal 'vector-append' operation. 12:50:28 Indeed. It's an immutable data structure too. So when you set a slot, it's O(log32(n)) again. 12:51:39 pjb: how does O(log(n)) differ from O(log32(n))? where does that come from? 12:52:50 or is that some fundamental property of purely immatable structures? 12:52:55 It does not differ, in O() sense. 12:53:00 immutable 12:53:08 It's because they use trees with 32 children. 12:53:15 I've been told. 12:53:30 ah, that sounds like what I saw in the java code ;p 12:54:24 so only the node gets recreated, but the rest still refer to the original tree? 12:55:43 you have to copy the path too. 12:56:10 yoklov [~yoklov@66-168-47-170.dhcp.nwtn.ct.charter.com] has joined #scheme 12:56:27 if your vector is less than 32 elements, setting one will copy a 32-element vector. 12:56:42 if your vector has less than 32^2 elements, setting one will copy two 32-element vectors. 12:56:43 etc. 12:57:10 ah ok, thanks :) 12:57:40 now to figure out how to give java more than it's silly default of 256MB memory 12:57:54 hash_table [~quassel@70-138-242-181.lightspeed.hstntx.sbcglobal.net] has joined #scheme 12:58:25 I got some weird timing when it got to near the heap limit, or outofmemory exceptions 12:59:55 Sorella [~quildreen@oftn/member/Sorella] has joined #scheme 13:00:57 -Xmx256g :) 13:01:11 -!- realitygrill [~realitygr@ool-18ba55c0.dyn.optonline.net] has quit [Quit: Computer has gone to sleep] 13:01:25 -!- cdidd [~cdidd@95-24-162-37.broadband.corbina.ru] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 13:01:29 -!- mucker [~mucker@183.83.240.198] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 13:02:44 realitygrill [~realitygr@ool-18ba55c0.dyn.optonline.net] has joined #scheme 13:03:25 mucker [~mucker@183.83.240.198] has joined #scheme 13:06:01 anyways, I still dont agree that it is a linear process 13:06:36 It is not, it's O(log(n)). 13:07:02 well clojure calls O(log32(n)) , constant time 13:07:07 Well, for small vectors, it's O(32) = O(1). 13:07:16 pjb I meant for butlast 13:07:43 But last needs to to copy log32(n) vectors. 13:08:34 pjb: http://clojuredocs.org/clojure_core/clojure.core/butlast 13:09:22 Since the vectors here are less than 32 elements, it's O(32) = O(1). 13:11:34 wbooze [~wbooze@xdsl-84-44-178-166.netcologne.de] has joined #scheme 13:14:46 What I mean here is that asymptotic analysis is useless when you have fixed ("small") size data structures. 13:15:30 And since our computers have finite memory, all our data structures are bound to a small fixed size. Only google has infinite memory, :-) 13:16:00 dzhus [~dzhus@95-24-95-134.broadband.corbina.ru] has joined #scheme 13:18:01 anyways, just did some timing on a 10 million element list. Both IronScheme and Clojure runs are about the same time (1300ms) 13:18:30 IronScheme simply using (reverse! (cdr (reverse list))) 13:18:48 didn't know there is a IronScheme 13:18:54 memory usage is 5 times larger on Clojure 13:19:03 -!- attila_lendvai [~attila_le@unaffiliated/attila-lendvai/x-3126965] has quit [Disconnected by services] 13:19:03 attila_lendvai1 [~attila_le@87.247.56.102] has joined #scheme 13:19:27 Also the cold start is very slow on Clojure 13:19:52 In IronScheme the cold start is only about 300ms more 13:20:22 In Clojure 3800ms (2500ms more) 13:21:26 but the timings on Clojure are all over the place, struggling to get 3 consequetive consistant times 13:21:47 leppie: well, it must not play well with cache lines 13:22:16 check http://www.pvk.ca/Blog/2012/07/30/binary-search-is-a-pathological-case-for-caches/ 13:22:17 http://tinyurl.com/cvsaubn 13:22:34 yeah, I see the same now on IroNScheme in small lists 13:22:59 b4283: yes, since 2007 :) 13:23:17 -!- attila_lendvai1 [~attila_le@87.247.56.102] has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 13:23:51 pjb: the solution is to petition hardware designers for better caches :P 13:24:18 ijp: well, there's the problem of the turtle and the phonograph. 13:24:20 jhemann [~Jason@adsl-108-67-90-90.dsl.bltnin.sbcglobal.net] has joined #scheme 13:24:30 And in the mean time, avoiding power of twos in software is easier. 13:27:50 -!- yoklov [~yoklov@66-168-47-170.dhcp.nwtn.ct.charter.com] has quit [Quit: computer sleeping] 13:28:08 hmmm, so the JVM never gives back memory it used at one stage? 13:28:11 -!- teiresias [~teiresias@archlinux/trusteduser/teiresias] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 13:29:30 -!- hash_table [~quassel@70-138-242-181.lightspeed.hstntx.sbcglobal.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 13:29:55 leppie: clojure vectors are a hash-array mapped trie IIRC 13:30:04 or a variant thereof 13:30:37 I guess the GC is taking it's time then ;p 13:31:05 as when I call butlast 5 times in a row, the memory just grows 13:31:49 if you want a deque, use a deque; otherwise I wouldn't worry about it 13:31:54 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[~phax@unaffiliated/phax] has joined #scheme 21:37:35 eni [~eni@31.171.153.34] has joined #scheme 21:37:50 Hmm, I dunno, doesn't look wrong to me. What if you put two read-line calls in a row? 21:37:54 -!- adu [~ajr@pool-108-45-79-219.washdc.fios.verizon.net] has quit [Quit: adu] 21:38:19 MrFahrenheit [~RageOfTho@cable-77-221-25-164.dynamic.vinet.ba] has joined #scheme 21:39:05 sethalves: are you running it on the repl or as a script? 21:40:01 as a script 21:40:17 sethalves: as a script it works for me, on the repl it is different because it reads the newline put when sending the command to the repl 21:40:28 which version are you using? 21:40:37 current from the repo 21:40:45 i'll try older versions and see if i can spot when it broke 21:41:39 sethalves: I'm using 1287:5a6e178f91cd 21:41:42 Jul 18 21:41:47 okay 21:41:50 tryng that 21:42:15 on osx (I don't think it makes a difference, but just in case) 21:42:37 that version works as expected 21:43:28 sethalves: just updated to the last version from hg tip and now I'm experiencing the same problem 21:43:46 -!- MrFahrenheit [~RageOfTho@cable-77-221-25-164.dynamic.vinet.ba] has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 21:44:33 yay i'm not crazy! 21:44:54 MrFahrenheit [~RageOfTho@cable-77-221-25-164.dynamic.vinet.ba] has joined #scheme 21:45:03 bzzbzz_ [~franco@modemcable151.155-57-74.mc.videotron.ca] has joined #scheme 21:45:19 -!- bzzbzz [~franco@modemcable151.155-57-74.mc.videotron.ca] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 21:45:34 it was one of the july 21 commits 21:46:57 -!- langmartin [~user@host-68-169-175-226.WISOLT2.epbfi.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 21:48:15 summary: chibi main always wants to make stdin/out/err non-blocking 21:52:33 By the way, you guys: . 21:52:38 Your fingers will thank you. 21:52:43 http://code.google.com/p/chibi-scheme/issues/detail?id=142 21:55:04 -!- gffa [~unknown@unaffiliated/gffa] has quit [Quit: sleep] 21:55:14 lcc [~lcc-pi@unaffiliated/lcc] has joined #scheme 22:02:22 -!- yoklov [~yoklov@66-168-47-170.dhcp.nwtn.ct.charter.com] has quit [Quit: computer sleeping] 22:02:30 hash_table [~quassel@70-138-242-181.lightspeed.hstntx.sbcglobal.net] has joined #scheme 22:07:49 -!- whitedawg1 [~suraj@122.178.222.146] has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 22:10:02 -!- cdidd [~cdidd@89-178-138-96.broadband.corbina.ru] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 22:11:26 -!- copumpkin [~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin] has quit [Quit: Computer has gone to sleep.] 22:16:55 -!- bfig [~b_fin_g@r186-52-44-226.dialup.adsl.anteldata.net.uy] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 22:18:27 yoklov [~yoklov@66-168-47-170.dhcp.nwtn.ct.charter.com] has joined #scheme 22:18:33 -!- amgarchIn9 [~amgarchin@p4FD605C7.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [Read error: Operation timed out] 22:25:58 -!- lcc [~lcc-pi@unaffiliated/lcc] has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 22:28:01 lcc [~lcc-pi@unaffiliated/lcc] has joined #scheme 22:35:23 marcux [~marco@177.32.182.96] has joined #scheme 22:38:43 -!- ijp [~user@host31-53-169-172.range31-53.btcentralplus.com] has quit [Quit: laterz] 23:00:39 rbarraud [~rbarraud@125-237-74-235.jetstream.xtra.co.nz] has joined #scheme 23:01:50 -!- eni [~eni@31.171.153.34] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 23:02:59 -!- lcc [~lcc-pi@unaffiliated/lcc] has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 23:09:59 lcc [~lcc-pi@unaffiliated/lcc] has joined #scheme 23:13:13 -!- lcc [~lcc-pi@unaffiliated/lcc] has quit [Client Quit] 23:16:23 -!- brendyn [brendyn@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:65b4] has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 23:16:24 brendyn [brendyn@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:65b4] has joined #scheme 23:17:27 -!- kuribas [~user@94-227-93-194.access.telenet.be] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 23:17:53 -!- jhemann [Jason@140-182-225-166.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 23:18:30 -!- samth is now known as samth_away 23:19:06 -!- marcux [~marco@177.32.182.96] has quit [Quit: marcux] 23:25:21 marcux [~marco@177.32.182.96] has joined #scheme 23:25:33 -!- marcux [~marco@177.32.182.96] has left #scheme 23:27:30 marcux [~marco@177.32.182.96] has joined #scheme 23:27:37  23:40:07 -!- pjb [~t@81.202.16.46.dyn.user.ono.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 23:44:15 -!- rbarraud [~rbarraud@125-237-74-235.jetstream.xtra.co.nz] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 23:50:12 -!- jonrafkind [~jon@racket/jonrafkind] has quit [Read error: Operation timed out] 23:54:07 pjb [~t@81.202.16.46.dyn.user.ono.com] has joined #scheme 23:56:01 -!- mucker [~mucker@183.83.240.198] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 23:58:33 -!- masm [~masm@bl17-198-148.dsl.telepac.pt] has quit [Quit: Leaving.]