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Connection reset by peer] 17:49:44 ente [mrtoast@furnace.wzff.de] has joined #scheme 17:49:44 -!- ente [mrtoast@furnace.wzff.de] has quit [Changing host] 17:49:44 ente [mrtoast@unaffiliated/n0nsense] has joined #scheme 17:52:17 peterhil` [~peterhil@91-157-48-51.elisa-laajakaista.fi] has joined #scheme 17:53:00 kaiku [mokou@i.orz.fi] has joined #scheme 17:53:45 ecraven [~user@www.nexoid.at] has joined #scheme 17:54:03 gravicappa [~gravicapp@ppp91-77-173-40.pppoe.mtu-net.ru] has joined #scheme 17:54:05 (define wait (delay conversation)) 17:55:27 pchrist_ [~spirit@gentoo/developer/pchrist] has joined #scheme 17:55:31 -!- evhan_ is now known as evhan 17:55:33 Riastradh [~riastradh@fsf/member/riastradh] has joined #scheme 17:56:46 Zuchto [~zuchto@li305-238.members.linode.com] has joined #scheme 17:58:08 (describe (versus delay lazy eager)) 17:58:44 (delay x) = (lazy (eager x)) 17:59:19 danking_ [~danking@zerowing.ccs.neu.edu] has joined #scheme 18:01:25 "The use of (lazy ...) instead of (delay (force ...)) around 18:01:26 the body of the procedure ensures that an ever-growing 18:01:28 sequence of pending promises does not exhaust the heap." 18:01:29 why? 18:02:07 Evaluating (force (delay (force (delay (force ... (delay x) ...))))) is non-tail-recursive. 18:02:19 Evaluating (force (lazy (lazy (lazy ... (lazy (delay x)) ...)))) is tail-recursive. 18:03:20 so (delay x) = (lazy (eager x)) and (delay (force x)) = (lazy x) ? 18:03:48 when would i use one another? 18:04:16 -!- net4all [~net4all@bacon.lysator.liu.se] has quit [*.net *.split] 18:04:17 -!- MichaelRaskin [~MichaelRa@3ad50e34.broker.freenet6.net] has quit [*.net *.split] 18:04:17 -!- fizzie [fis@unaffiliated/fizzie] has quit [*.net *.split] 18:04:17 -!- danking [~danking@zerowing.ccs.neu.edu] has quit [*.net *.split] 18:04:17 -!- pchrist [~spirit@gentoo/developer/pchrist] has quit [*.net *.split] 18:04:17 -!- Nshag [user@chl45-1-88-123-84-8.fbx.proxad.net] has quit [*.net *.split] 18:04:17 -!- saccadewrk [saccadewrk@nat/google/x-gzabzwrefoygywdz] has quit [*.net *.split] 18:04:17 -!- turbolent [~bastian@turbolent.com] has quit [*.net *.split] 18:05:46 -!- ijp [~user@host31-52-140-108.range31-52.btcentralplus.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 18:06:21 ijp [~user@host31-53-169-172.range31-53.btcentralplus.com] has joined 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Why does this eval to (7) instead of 7? 20:39:48 leppie: Considering the JVM is involved, it's hard to say what version of 'butlast' would run faster, but that doesn't really strike me as a 'sad state' example. 20:40:13 (coming from Haskell, where (\x -> x) 7 == 7) 20:40:16 franco00: if the second argument to lambda is an identifier it accumulates all the arguments in a list 20:40:24 franco00: scheme expects a list for the second argument 20:40:26 wbooze [~wbooze@xdsl-78-35-149-194.netcologne.de] has joined #scheme 20:40:33 rudybot: ((lambda (x) x) 1) 20:40:34 ijp: your sandbox is ready 20:40:34 ijp: ; Value: 1 20:40:37 rudybot: ((lambda x x) 1) 20:40:37 ijp: ; Value: (1) 20:40:58 cool ijp 20:41:28 is lambda a real function or, err, derived syntax? 20:41:32 neither 20:41:40 core language? 20:41:42 yes 20:41:49 thanks 20:43:33 For answers to questions like that, the Revised^n Report on the Algorithmic Language Scheme (where n is probably 4-7, depending on which Scheme you're using) is a very readable resource. 20:44:07 See http://www.scheme-reports.org/ 20:44:12 5 levi. Will look into that 20:45:14 A better location for R5RS is probably here: http://www.schemers.org/Documents/Standards/R5RS/ 20:50:28 indeed pretty accessible (and compact!), thanks 20:51:38 I dunno what the IEEE Scheme spec reads like, as it doesn't appear to be freely available, but the RnRS versions are definitely among the most readable specification documents I've read. 20:53:28 -!- add^_ [~paw@m90-141-63-88.cust.tele2.se] has quit [Quit: add^_] 20:58:39 -!- stis [~stis@1-1-1-39a.veo.vs.bostream.se] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 21:01:41 -!- tertl3 [~tertl3@108-85-16-151.lightspeed.gnvlsc.sbcglobal.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 21:05:06 keenbug [~daniel@p4FDB6204.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #scheme 21:08:43 -!- zazou [~zazou@c-3fa4e355.031-34-73746f15.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 21:10:49 -!- pothos [~pothos@1-164-213-73.dynamic.hinet.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 21:10:50 pothos_ [~pothos@114-36-247-252.dynamic.hinet.net] has joined #scheme 21:11:02 -!- pothos_ is now known as pothos 21:14:57 -!- wingo [~wingo@89.131.176.233] has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 21:15:14 -!- keenbug [~daniel@p4FDB6204.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Quit: WeeChat 0.3.8] 21:17:51 -!- adu [~ajr@pool-108-45-79-219.washdc.fios.verizon.net] has quit [Quit: adu] 21:22:58 -!- ijp [~user@host31-53-169-172.range31-53.btcentralplus.com] has quit [Quit: The garbage collector got me] 21:27:10 Guest38929 [~kvirc@18.Red-83-50-64.dynamicIP.rima-tde.net] has joined #scheme 21:27:52 -!- bipt [~bpt@cpe-071-070-253-241.nc.res.rr.com] has quit [Read error: No route to host] 21:33:20 adu [~ajr@pool-108-45-79-219.washdc.fios.verizon.net] has joined #scheme 21:33:40 -!- Sorella [~quildreen@oftn/member/Sorella] has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 21:36:13 -!- gffa [~unknown@unaffiliated/gffa] has quit [Quit: sleep] 21:36:33 -!- kuribas [~user@94-227-93-194.access.telenet.be] has quit [Quit: ERC Version 5.3 (IRC client for Emacs)] 21:41:59 bipt [~bpt@cpe-071-070-253-241.nc.res.rr.com] has joined #scheme 21:42:01 -!- Guest38929 [~kvirc@18.Red-83-50-64.dynamicIP.rima-tde.net] has quit [Quit: KVIrc 4.1.3 Equilibrium http://www.kvirc.net/] 21:46:43 Sorella [~quildreen@oftn/member/Sorella] has joined #scheme 21:56:32 MrFahrenheit [~RageOfTho@cable-77-221-31-173.dynamic.vinet.ba] has joined #scheme 22:12:37 -!- franco00 [~new@151.68.254.141] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 22:14:50 -!- adu [~ajr@pool-108-45-79-219.washdc.fios.verizon.net] has quit [Quit: adu] 22:15:42 -!- lcc [~lcc-pi@unaffiliated/lcc] has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 22:16:50 franco00 [~new@151.34.30.254] has joined #scheme 22:20:55 -!- realitygrill [~realitygr@158.130.103.140] has quit [Quit: Computer has gone to sleep] 22:29:03 eni [~eni@31.171.153.34] has joined #scheme 22:33:00 lcc [~lcc-pi@unaffiliated/lcc] has joined #scheme 22:43:23 -!- copumpkin is now known as farooq 22:44:11 -!- farooq is now known as copumpkin 22:45:57 fantazo [~fantazo@91-119-143-213.dynamic.xdsl-line.inode.at] has joined #scheme 23:02:50 chu [~chu@unaffiliated/chu] has joined #scheme 23:05:43 yoklov [~yoklov@66-168-47-170.dhcp.nwtn.ct.charter.com] has joined #scheme 23:08:31 -!- eni [~eni@31.171.153.34] has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 23:25:09 -!- samth is now known as samth_away 23:39:20 -!- peterhil` [~peterhil@91-157-48-51.elisa-laajakaista.fi] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 23:42:44 phax [~phax@cpc14-haye17-2-0-cust110.haye.cable.virginmedia.com] has joined #scheme 23:42:45 -!- phax [~phax@cpc14-haye17-2-0-cust110.haye.cable.virginmedia.com] has quit [Changing host] 23:42:45 phax [~phax@unaffiliated/phax] has joined #scheme 23:46:46 -!- fantazo [~fantazo@91-119-143-213.dynamic.xdsl-line.inode.at] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 23:49:38 -!- Khisanth [~Khisanth@50.14.244.111] has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 23:51:49 -!- amliby [~amliby@unaffiliated/amsl] has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 23:52:13 realitygrill [~realitygr@70.42.157.23] has joined #scheme 23:52:40 Dalek_Baldwin [~Adium@75-142-48-121.static.mtpk.ca.charter.com] has joined #scheme 23:53:13 peterhil` [~peterhil@91-157-48-51.elisa-laajakaista.fi] has joined #scheme 23:55:24 -!- masm [~masm@bl17-198-148.dsl.telepac.pt] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 23:57:20 -!- franco00 [~new@151.34.30.254] has quit [Quit: WeeChat 0.3.8]