00:00:36 One whose body consists of Scheme code rather than a template. 00:00:56 (explicit-renaming, syntactic closures, or non-trivial syntax-case) 00:01:17 ijp: lol 00:01:31 ? 00:01:50 "that one is an advantage, not a disadvantage" 00:02:09 I stand by that statement 00:02:18 it's beautiful 00:02:31 chu_ [~chu@CPE-58-169-13-80.lns2.civ.bigpond.net.au] has joined #scheme 00:02:32 -!- chu_ [~chu@CPE-58-169-13-80.lns2.civ.bigpond.net.au] has quit [Changing host] 00:02:32 chu_ [~chu@unaffiliated/chu] has joined #scheme 00:02:53 -!- chu_ is now known as chu 00:05:28 asumu: low-level macros are not actually macros 00:06:01 Nobody knows better than I that there are too many Scheme implementations. 00:06:31 I currently run my compatibility tests on 45 of them. 00:06:49 adu: Huh? How do you justify that? 00:07:01 Are you saying templates are not Scheme quote? They seem to trivially be so. 00:07:07 s/quote/code/ 00:07:24 Templates are *not* Scheme code, because the syntax-rules processor doesn't know what they mean. 00:07:29 ok let me rephrase 00:07:36 #'(...) is a template. 00:08:14 scheme macros are built with syntax-rules (or in R6RS and other schemes, syntax-case) 00:08:40 low-level macros are built with other stuff, like gensym 00:08:56 Syntax-case macros can be low or high level 00:09:36 [A syntax-rules template] *really* seems to be Scheme code, but when Scheme is applying the 00:09:36 syntax-rules rewrite there is NO SEMANTIC MEANING attached to the 00:09:36 tokens. The meaning will be attached at a later point in the process, 00:09:36 but not here. 00:09:37 adu: yes, gensym is bad. But with syntax-objects you can write a transformer that is hygienic and involves no templates. 00:09:56 --JRM's Syntax-rules Primer for the Merely Eccentric 00:10:37 Syntax-rules is basically a low-level system that has some high-level syntactic sugar. 00:10:58 Syntactic closures and explicit renaming are low-level systems; their only sugar is quasiquote. 00:11:04 s/-rules/-case 00:11:16 But all three are hygienic systems that allow escapes from hygiene. 00:11:43 Syntax-rules is hygienic and high-level only. 00:12:36 -!- preflex [~preflex@unaffiliated/mauke/bot/preflex] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 00:13:02 -!- jcowan [~John@mail.digitalkingdom.org] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 00:13:21 I don't like this classification because it doesn't make sense for further extensions. Based on syntax objects, you can build a declarative parser-based macro frontend. 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Religion! A bad case of gas! 03:13:02 *qu1j0t3* snickers 03:15:15 -!- gnomon [~gnomon@174.119.4.137] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 03:15:49 gnomon [~gnomon@CPE0022158a8221-CM000f9f776f96.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com] has joined #scheme 03:15:56 lcc: Guile is very nice too. I'd say Racket's advantage is that it has a module system that enables a lot of extensibility (hooking into the application syntax, macros that can work over the entire module, etc) 03:16:17 And has facilities for building complicated macros (syntax-parse is very nice). 03:16:32 But... but Guile has sonic boom! 03:17:03 *gnomon* looks around for wingo 03:20:49 -!- mmalorni [~mmalorni@modemcable162.45-59-74.mc.videotron.ca] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 03:26:48 mmalorni [~mmalorni@modemcable162.45-59-74.mc.videotron.ca] has joined #scheme 03:27:32 dnolen [~user@cpe-69-203-204-197.nyc.res.rr.com] has joined #scheme 03:29:12 *qu1j0t3* looks around for mark_weaver 03:29:44 -!- Natch [~Natch@178.73.212.231] has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 03:38:22 *gnomon* looks around for the Slithergadee 03:38:23 -!- MichaelRaskin [~MichaelRa@195.91.224.225] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 03:45:58 -!- mmalorni [~mmalorni@modemcable162.45-59-74.mc.videotron.ca] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 03:49:35 attila_lendvai [~attila_le@87.247.49.243] has joined #scheme 03:49:36 -!- attila_lendvai [~attila_le@87.247.49.243] has quit [Changing host] 03:49:36 attila_lendvai [~attila_le@unaffiliated/attila-lendvai/x-3126965] has joined #scheme 03:52:12 -!- lcc [~user@unaffiliated/lcc] has quit [Quit: ERC Version 5.3 (IRC client for Emacs)] 03:52:16 just took a peek in #haskell and there's crazy lot of people in there, which is pretty unexpected 03:53:54 b4284: http://langpop.com/#irc 03:53:56 b4284: Things like xmonad has done WONDERS for haskell's view in the "not-so-publlic-eye", afaik. 03:54:17 b4284: That provides the numbers for a lot of languages on IRC 03:55:25 thanks 04:02:20 -!- phax [~phax@unaffiliated/phax] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 04:02:50 -!- leppie [~lolcow@196-210-143-159.dynamic.isadsl.co.za] has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 04:05:08 xmonad is pretty great. 04:09:09 drwho [~drwho@216-122-174-206.gci.net] has joined #scheme 04:11:28 -!- drwho [~drwho@216-122-174-206.gci.net] has quit [Client Quit] 04:17:58 SrPx [b1110f44@gateway/web/freenode/ip.177.17.15.68] has joined #scheme 04:18:42 leppie [~lolcow@196-210-143-145.dynamic.isadsl.co.za] has joined #scheme 04:19:30 asumu: Meh. Stumpmw is what I've been using, but I wish Emacs had a stable graphical browser, then I'd just use Emacs for everything... :-U 04:19:44 gnomon, wingo is busy crocheting a container cozy for the austerity measures limiting heater usage in Spain due to the European economy's collapse. 04:20:44 how is racket different from scheme 04:31:30 -!- leppie [~lolcow@196-210-143-145.dynamic.isadsl.co.za] has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 04:32:31 -!- dnolen [~user@cpe-69-203-204-197.nyc.res.rr.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 04:35:03 -!- anothervenue [~anotherve@76.91.162.213] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 04:36:10 leppie [~lolcow@196-210-143-159.dynamic.isadsl.co.za] has joined #scheme 04:36:12 anothervenue [~anotherve@76.91.162.213] has joined #scheme 04:41:49 -!- realitygrill [~realitygr@ool-18ba55c0.dyn.optonline.net] has quit [Quit: Computer has gone to sleep] 04:42:56 youlysses: Apparently there's a fork of emacs that has an embedded webkit browser... so... 04:43:13 10 years from now, emacs *will* be a desktop environment and a tiling window manager! 04:44:22 bfgun [~b_fin_g@r186-52-130-2.dialup.adsl.anteldata.net.uy] has joined #scheme 04:44:35 -!- bfig [~b_fin_g@r186-52-136-31.dialup.adsl.anteldata.net.uy] has quit [Disconnected by services] 04:44:40 -!- bfgun is now known as bfig 04:44:40 Aethaeryn: I know of the fork, but it's still not stable enough for me to feel safe on it, afaik, but I do plan on giving it a try. :-) 04:45:07 Also Emacs is already a tiling wm, and DE. 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timed out] 13:17:46 Just started reading SICP, and just installed mit-scheme, then in emacs I did M-run-scheme which works, but is there a scheme equivalent to eval-region or eval-buffer in emacs? Or am I way off in assuming most people use Emacs? 13:18:32 ... I'd like to write my code in a file, not at a scheme-prompt. 13:18:48 -!- bfig [~b_fin_g@r186-52-128-194.dialup.adsl.anteldata.net.uy] has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 13:19:58 penguin: scheme-send-region 13:20:21 `scheme-send-definition' is also useful. 13:24:13 I'm feeling daft. What am I doing wrong: I mark this: (+ 10 14) and then M-x scheme-send-region, and I expect to see '24' in the minibuffer, but instead I come to my *scheme* buffer, where it doesn't do anything. 13:25:12 -!- squimmy [tim1@mussel.ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au] has quit [Read error: Operation timed out] 13:25:26 -!- realitygrill [~realitygr@ool-18ba55c0.dyn.optonline.net] has quit [Quit: Computer has gone to sleep] 13:25:31 The value isn't printed to the minibuffer, but when I switch to the *scheme* buffer I see it there. 13:26:25 Ah, yes, thanks. 13:28:55 -!- hash_table [~quassel@70-138-242-181.lightspeed.hstntx.sbcglobal.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 13:28:55 -!- getpwnam [~ian@70-138-242-181.lightspeed.hstntx.sbcglobal.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 13:28:57 langmartin [~user@host-68-169-175-226.WISOLT2.epbfi.com] has joined #scheme 13:29:59 realitygrill [~realitygr@ool-18ba55c0.dyn.optonline.net] has joined #scheme 13:30:21 Q2: When the scheme buffer gives me an error> prompt, is there an easier way to get out of it than typing (RESTART 1)? 13:33:51 Probably not with cmuscheme.el. 13:34:32 In a tty, or in Edwin, or with xscheme.el, you can type `C-c C-u' to go back to the last REPL, or `C-c C-c' to go all the way back to the top level REPL. 13:37:12 I'm just reading about the xscheme.el. I'm using MIT-scheme, so seems like I aught to have loaded that library before I started scheming. 13:37:21 phao [phao@177.27.10.81] has joined #scheme 13:39:51 -!- tupi [~david@187.80.76.207] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 13:43:58 phax [~phax@adsl-68-74-59-158.dsl.ipltin.ameritech.net] has joined #scheme 13:43:58 -!- phax [~phax@adsl-68-74-59-158.dsl.ipltin.ameritech.net] has quit [Changing host] 13:43:58 phax [~phax@unaffiliated/phax] has joined #scheme 13:44:56 I have to step out, thanks for the help Riastradh. 13:46:14 *poof* 13:46:22 -!- copumpkin [~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin] has quit [Quit: Computer has gone to sleep.] 13:46:45 snizzo [~Claudio@iglu.cc.uniud.it] has joined #scheme 13:47:38 jezush [~a@IGLD-84-228-208-22.inter.net.il] has joined #scheme 13:47:48 hey can you help me? I really can't get (or find materials to study on) how procedures which have other procedures as values and arguments works. Can you help me? 13:49:42 -!- jezush [~a@IGLD-84-228-208-22.inter.net.il] has quit [Quit: http://www.iBash.org - Create a Quotes database for your channel] 13:49:58 -!- penguin [~user@c83-249-214-228.bredband.comhem.se] has left #scheme 13:50:33 What exactly is the question? 13:52:20 -!- huangjs [~huangjs@190.8.100.83] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 13:55:24 snizzo: Pass a function, call the argument from inside the function that received it as though it were a function. 13:58:04 ChibaPet: mm can you make me a little example? 13:59:46 -!- Riastradh [~riastradh@fsf/member/riastradh] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 13:59:56 Let me point you to one: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Higher-order_function#Example 14:00:02 The second example is Scheme. 14:02:07 That's showing something slightly different, but the idea is the same. If you pass a lambda or a named function as an argument, on the side of the function that's receiving it, you have a variable name. Treat that variable as though it were the function. 14:02:22 In the Wikipedia example you see them calling (a 7) in the last line. 14:02:29 Sorry, (a 3). 14:02:40 a is just a variable, and it happens to contain a function. 14:02:43 yeah I'm quite getting it 14:03:09 i'm just a bit confused because I must use (for accademic purposes) lambda functions 14:03:16 -!- realitygrill [~realitygr@ool-18ba55c0.dyn.optonline.net] has quit [Quit: Computer has gone to sleep] 14:04:12 A named function is just a lambda bound to a name 14:04:35 (define (add2 a b) (+ a b)) is really just doing (define add2 (lambda (a b) (+ a b))) 14:05:14 Ah, I can see that being confusing for people. I learned it as (define foo (lambda ...)) first, and only later learned that there was a shorthand. 14:05:29 oh ok! 14:06:10 Every named function is a lambda. But not every lambda needs to be a named function 14:06:32 E.g (filter (lambda (name) (string=? name "Fred")) some-names) 14:06:44 Filters a list of names by an (anonymous) function that tests if the name is "Fred". 14:07:13 huangjs [~huangjs@190.8.100.83] has joined #scheme 14:08:00 -!- dropster [~Kim@port284.ds1-oebr.adsl.cybercity.dk] has left #scheme 14:08:33 copumpkin [~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin] has joined #scheme 14:09:11 -!- antithesis [~antithesi@s51476e07.adsl.wanadoo.nl] has quit [Quit: antithesis] 14:10:20 thank you! :) I'll try it now! 14:17:01 pessoa [~pessoa@188-195-211-39-dynip.superkabel.de] has joined #scheme 14:21:28 henne_ [~quassel@91-67-165-122-dynip.superkabel.de] has joined #scheme 14:23:48 mmalorni [~mmalorni@modemcable162.45-59-74.mc.videotron.ca] has joined #scheme 14:24:13 -!- pessoa [~pessoa@188-195-211-39-dynip.superkabel.de] has quit [Quit: Started wasting time elsewhere] 14:24:16 Well, there's no such notion of a named function. There are only variables bound to functions (lambdas). 14:24:55 I guess so 14:25:13 In my implementation lambdas do have a slot for storing a name, just as a convenience for debug messages and the like 14:25:22 -!- noam [~noam@37.142.141.69] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 14:25:24 When you evaluate something like: (fun 1 2), the question is not whether there's a function named "fun", but whether the variable fun is bound to a function when (fun 1 2) is evaluated. 14:25:38 LeoNerd: yes, debuging. But that's something else. 14:25:55 noam [~noam@37.142.141.69] has joined #scheme 14:26:01 I hope you store in that slot not just a name, but a list of variables, along with their scopes. 14:26:39 Hm? 14:26:45 (defun f (lambda () 1)) (define g (lambda () (let ((f (lambda () 2))) (debugger 'what-is f)))) ? 14:26:57 (defun f (lambda () 1)) (define g (lambda () (let ((h f)) (debugger 'what-is h)))) ? 14:27:23 I'm not quite sure I follow the question 14:27:58 if you can return something like ((interaction-environment f) ((interaction-environemnt g) (lexical-binding h))) then ok. 14:28:13 The same lambda is bound to f and to h. 14:28:38 The h that is inside the lambda that is bould to the variable g in the interaction environment. 14:28:53 Not the h in this function: (lambda (h) (+ h h)). 14:30:00 I'm still not -really- following 14:30:17 All I do is that for a (define (name args...) ...) operation, I store the "name" string in the generated lambda. 14:30:26 So if you pulled that lambda out and used it elsewhere it would still know its name 14:30:59 LeoNerd: I think I know what he means, I will soon have an abstract picture of that ;p 14:32:58 https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-mQQ4B4jSW08/T-SB_K4jCGI/AAAAAAAAAiA/gqg7hxxZjiY/s590/Fullscreen+capture+20120622+043142+PM.bmp.jpg 14:32:58 http://tinyurl.com/864cf7a 14:33:13 does that work? 14:33:29 aweful url... 14:33:46 but the 'problem' is with rib 14:38:54 -!- noam [~noam@37.142.141.69] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 14:39:14 noam [~noam@37.142.141.69] has joined #scheme 14:39:51 -!- dnolen [~user@cpe-69-203-204-197.nyc.res.rr.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 14:41:26 -!- hkBst [~marijn@gentoo/developer/hkbst] has quit [Quit: Konversation terminated!] 14:44:58 LeoNerd: Try: (define f (lambda () 42)) (define h f) (h) 14:45:25 Now if there's a bug in the function, and you enter the debugger, wouldn't be more useful to know it was called thru (h), and not thru (f)? 14:45:30 Worse: 14:45:50 LeoNerd: Try: (define (f) 42) (define h f) (set! f (lambda () 0)) (h) 14:46:18 If there's a bug in the function that returns 42, why would you name it f, when f is bound to another function and (f) returns 0? 14:46:45 Oh, yeah.. that breaks. That's unfortunate 14:46:47 -!- leppie [~lolcow@196-210-143-180.dynamic.isadsl.co.za] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 14:47:07 To fix that would require generating temporaries all the time, that store what name the value was actually accessed via 14:47:23 The "name of the function" is a silly notion in a language like scheme. 14:47:38 To debug, better report the stack frames and the bindings of the variables. 14:48:17 getpwnam [~ian@128.249.96.123] has joined #scheme 14:48:40 If you say the toplevel frame is in a function that is stored in those variables and those places well, good. But the stack frames already give the expressions that called that function, so just looking at the frame under the current one is enough to know that. 14:48:50 hash_table [~quassel@128.249.96.123] has joined #scheme 14:49:54 And yes, if you want to provide a "source-level" debugger, you need much more, you need to record the fact that h was bound to the value of f, because the bug can be as well inside the function that was once bound to f, or the fact that h was assigned f. 14:50:08 LeoNerd: check: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gBVQYNfckhQ 14:51:16 leppie [~lolcow@196-210-191-21.dynamic.isadsl.co.za] has joined #scheme 14:51:57 wingo [~wingo@89.131.176.233] has joined #scheme 15:03:17 -!- attila_lendvai [~attila_le@unaffiliated/attila-lendvai/x-3126965] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 15:03:32 -!- araujo [~araujo@gentoo/developer/araujo] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 15:07:50 -!- noam [~noam@37.142.141.69] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 15:08:08 noam 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