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I am using gambit for image processing. Once you got used to it, it is pretty easy to make optimizations on your code. I only miss code completion while running the interpreter from emacs 02:16:47 tcleval: yeah, if only someone made a gambit-scheme swank server. 02:17:35 leo2007: I am using quack. 02:17:55 quack? 02:18:30 imphasing [~Alex@97-81-80-39.dhcp.athn.ga.charter.com] has joined #scheme 02:18:48 leo2007: http://www.neilvandyke.org/quack 02:19:29 leo2007: well it is not slime, but it is good enough for me. only miss completion on the interpreter 02:20:17 tcleval: I am looking at it. Are you using scheme at work or school? 02:21:05 leo2007: home actually. I am adventuring myself on the big forest of 'do it your self' 02:21:43 nice. 02:21:52 leo2007: your distro probably have it. 02:22:14 tcleval: I just pulled it from the author's page. 02:22:17 leo2007: oohh. sorry, you use mac, I assumed you were using linux for a seconde there 02:22:20 heh 02:22:24 yes i was like o.O 02:23:06 anyone successfully uses gambit in their ios app? 02:24:12 well there were 2 games for ios 02:24:39 rbarraud [~rbarraud@125-239-196-121.jetstream.xtra.co.nz] has joined #scheme 02:24:40 leo2007: I fell that the real adventure is on the android side 02:25:01 tcleval: how so? I know nothing about android. 02:25:07 leo2007: ios is like a given, all objective-c , where gambit shines 02:25:35 leo2007: what I mean is that using gambit on android is kind of harder 02:26:00 leo2007: and is exactaly what I am trying to do.. image processing on android with gambit 02:26:02 they got the ndk 02:26:50 leo2007: I am on the point where I am doing Image Processing on the PC using 96% scheme, next step port to android 02:27:15 leo2007: yes, but once in a while you will need java 02:27:40 I don't mind a bit of java. if the interesting stuff can be done in a high level language. 02:32:10 leo2007: yesterday I was doing Dithering http://tiny.cc/r8ktfw ... it was working, but really really slow, it took like 8 seconds or more to change a image. But will some tricks and the help of gambit repl I took it down to 0.8 seconds :-) 02:32:48 that is the power of repl.. compiling and loading, and testing without leaving the repl 02:34:19 -!- rbarraud [~rbarraud@125-239-196-121.jetstream.xtra.co.nz] has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 02:34:22 amazing. 02:35:47 -!- imphasing [~Alex@97-81-80-39.dhcp.athn.ga.charter.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 02:36:17 leo2007: the "problem" with gambit is that you wont get some ready enviroment like you do with java or C#. But if you understand the power of the language it is worth it 02:37:23 tcleval: I am comfortable with elisp. 02:37:32 -!- turbofail [~user@38.99.37.210] has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 02:37:35 MetrosenRJ [~Bruno@187-15-40-167.user.veloxzone.com.br] has joined #scheme 02:38:13 I quite like the development environment of CL + swank + emacs 02:38:49 swank is a dream enviroment... if only I could get those with gambit 02:40:25 there's a swank running on a couple of schemes, I don't know which. 02:40:42 (there's even a swank running on R, and a slimv for vim). 02:41:22 pjb: I tried swankr, very nice. 02:41:40 Hey guys, I wonder if anyone can help me. 02:41:40 I have a laptop with sis chipset vieo mirage 3672, I installed ubuntu 12, 04 and downloaded the driver sis 672 and installed it, got a resolution of 1280 x 800 but I can not run videos in any player or the VLC, the time that the video is loaded it gives log out. I can not also change the theme options, someone knows a solution? 02:41:41 pjb: I have kawa-swank running. 02:41:45 -!- replore_ [~replore@203.152.213.161.static.zoot.jp] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 02:42:50 chicken scheme has a swank server too. mit-scheme got one built-in. 02:43:38 Probably, one could write a swank over some SRFIs to have it run on several scheme, no? 02:45:31 I know too little of scheme to know. 02:45:45 jonrafkind [~jon@racket/jonrafkind] has joined #scheme 02:46:01 btw, the compilation of gambit is still going; i was wrong. 02:46:12 it is more than an hour now. 02:47:30 there is https://github.com/jlongster/swank-gambit but has not been updated for > 2 years. 02:48:27 -!- MetrosenRJ [~Bruno@187-15-40-167.user.veloxzone.com.br] has left #scheme 02:53:49 drumond19 [~drumond19@186.214.72.121] has joined #scheme 02:54:53 imphasing [~Alex@97-81-80-39.dhcp.athn.ga.charter.com] has joined #scheme 02:56:43 vu3rdd [~vu3rdd@nat/cisco/x-nbezxxvtzhoixgbd] 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[~antithesi@s51476e07.adsl.wanadoo.nl] has joined #scheme 09:23:05 trying to learn scheme/lisp - any opinions on which book to dig through ? Ive seen alot reference to SICP but some have other opinions 09:23:37 i have DrRacket installed and gambit-c - is there other systems that are better suited ? 09:24:43 sicp =) 09:25:07 I don't know if the order matters too much. It's just that you should read SICP 09:25:20 The little schemer, and The seasoned schemer are good too 09:25:37 The Scheme Programming Language, is nice 09:26:03 But an alternative on learning scheme, can be "Teach Yourself Scheme in a Fixnum Days" 09:26:03 which is an AMAZING book. 09:26:15 But I still believe you should start with sicp 09:26:46 a good thing about sicp, is that there are the video lectures 09:26:49 ok ill start there and chug my way through it 09:26:54 yes i found those 09:28:14 you probably will end up reading all of those... =) 09:29:41 dropster, I never read anything longer than 50pgs on Common lisp 09:29:50 but I'd guess the approach by CL books are different 09:29:59 maybe you should check those too 09:30:32 i have the land of lisp - which is quite funny in style 09:31:02 and i have written small segments of code for testing ideas 09:31:53 =0 09:32:04 =) 09:32:15 there is practical common lisp, which is like "lisp for other programmers" 09:32:24 (the 50pgs I read, was from it) 09:32:25 -!- bipt [~bpt@cpe-071-070-253-241.nc.res.rr.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 09:32:32 were* 09:32:58 im trying to convert my chess program to lisp/scheme which is a "funny" excersice 09:33:19 well... idk about CL books. That one is sort of good, but I remember it bringing things earlier than it explained 09:33:36 one thing im still having a little trouble to grasp is the lack of type definition 09:33:48 maybe I should read more before i start tinkering 09:34:06 well 09:34:16 there are types, and it's well defined 09:34:33 you can check if something is a number 09:34:43 or procedure, or pair, ... 09:35:10 It's just that, afaik, up to r5rs, there is no standard way of formally specifying a new type 09:35:20 rbarraud [~rbarraud@125-239-196-121.jetstream.xtra.co.nz] has joined #scheme 09:35:26 in my program i have an vector where each slot(cons ?) is an 8bit type 09:35:32 you can say "this record type is just a vector of 5 elements" 09:35:40 cdidd [~cdidd@95-24-29-49.broadband.corbina.ru] has joined #scheme 09:35:45 and make a function that tests for that type, but it will still be a vector 09:36:13 one thing in scheme, and I think in cl too, is that types are not so associated with sizes 09:36:32 I mean, you don't know what is the size of a number 09:36:41 or of a pair, or of a vector... in bits in mean 09:36:50 you will have to deal with numbers 09:36:57 but here i know it will always be 8bit 09:37:07 w/o knowing their sizes 09:37:10 and i will test different bit fields 09:37:20 on each "slot" 09:37:30 =) 09:37:37 will i will put on the glasses and dig in sicp 09:37:43 I am not sure if I understand, but imagine this 09:38:11 if you have a number, and know that you will only store vaules from 0 to 255 09:38:35 yes 09:38:41 then you could put this on a 8bit block of memory, but you are still holding that value on a number 09:38:43 i just have 256 of those in a list 09:39:02 like array[256] of char 09:39:20 so, although your program makes sure that only one of 256 different values go into a spot 09:39:28 that spot may be larger than 8bits 09:39:44 because a memory block of 200 bits can also hold those 256 different values, for example 09:40:08 because a memory block of 200 bits can also hold one of those 256 different values, for example 09:41:31 -!- leo2007 [~leo@119.255.41.67] has quit [Quit: rcirc on GNU Emacs 24.1.1] 09:41:33 the fact that you only need to store 256 values isn't important for scheme (not so true, I'd say; but you can see it this way) 09:41:46 what matters is that you need a number 09:41:59 so the type of the variable will be a number 09:42:14 to validate that, you will have to make your own procedure (is number + is in range) 09:42:40 you'd have the same "problem" if you had an array of longs 09:42:40 ok i think i need to read more :) 09:43:02 a long can hold much more than 256 different values. So to make sure it's valid, you'd do something like "is this long in range?" 09:43:13 -!- rbarraud [~rbarraud@125-239-196-121.jetstream.xtra.co.nz] has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 09:43:31 Just know that types are associated with values 09:43:31 not with variables 09:44:32 a variable holds something, which maybe of any type 09:44:48 to validate, you need to check if that something is a number, or is in some range of values 09:46:04 -!- dropster [~Kim@port284.ds1-oebr.adsl.cybercity.dk] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 09:46:14 dropster [~Kim@port284.ds1-oebr.adsl.cybercity.dk] has joined #scheme 09:51:23 -!- fds_ is now known as fds 10:03:12 -!- tcleval [~funnyguy@187.114.155.20] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 10:14:44 -!- phao [~phao@187.91.113.102] has quit [Quit: Not Here] 10:25:15 tomodo [~tomodo@gateway/tor-sasl/tomodo] has joined #scheme 10:31:31 tejaswidp [~tejaswidp@117.192.144.254] has joined #scheme 10:35:34 robolobster54 [~robolobst@77.241.58.140] has joined #scheme 10:40:51 -!- gravicappa [~gravicapp@ppp91-77-177-11.pppoe.mtu-net.ru] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 10:46:46 leo2007 [~leo@222.130.140.59] has joined #scheme 10:57:34 ramrunner [~dsp@host86-174-10-129.range86-174.btcentralplus.com] has joined #scheme 10:57:51 madmuppet006 [~user@122-62-124-247.jetstream.xtra.co.nz] has joined #scheme 11:02:01 I have been reading online on how to write an and procedure and want to extend it to a nand .. how do I get the argument list into the ...(not(and args)) my and procedure is at http://pastebin.com/qrqT2Pyd 11:08:04 ijp` [~user@host86-177-156-19.range86-177.btcentralplus.com] has joined #scheme 11:10:12 ijp`` [~user@host86-143-197-17.range86-143.btcentralplus.com] has joined #scheme 11:10:35 -!- ijp [~user@host31-53-168-110.range31-53.btcentralplus.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 11:12:39 -!- ijp` [~user@host86-177-156-19.range86-177.btcentralplus.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 11:19:53 ssbr_ [~ssbr@python/site-packages/ssbr] has joined #scheme 11:24:04 -!- tomodo [~tomodo@gateway/tor-sasl/tomodo] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 11:26:59 Framedragger [~k@unaffiliated/framedragger] has joined #scheme 11:28:24 -!- tuubow [~adityavit@c-69-136-105-164.hsd1.nj.comcast.net] has quit [Read error: Operation timed out] 11:29:50 DGASAU [~user@91.218.144.129] has joined #scheme 11:44:56 masm [~masm@bl18-42-187.dsl.telepac.pt] has joined #scheme 12:05:55 fantazo [~fantazo@91.119.112.29] has joined #scheme 12:06:03 -!- ijp`` [~user@host86-143-197-17.range86-143.btcentralplus.com] has quit [Quit: The garbage collector got me] 12:10:58 tomodo [~tomodo@gateway/tor-sasl/tomodo] has joined #scheme 12:11:21 -!- attila_lendvai [~attila_le@unaffiliated/attila-lendvai/x-3126965] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 12:21:23 leppie [~lolcow@196-210-199-34.dynamic.isadsl.co.za] has joined #scheme 12:30:08 Wow, bold shit coming out of Franz, Inc.: "Allegro CL is the most powerful dynamic object-oriented development system available today" (). 12:30:29 Maybe they're right; deciding whether or not to buy it so I can use Norvig's AIMA code. 12:30:47 Nah? Nah. Hmm. 12:32:27 -!- dzhus [~dzhus@95-24-198-181.broadband.corbina.ru] has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 12:35:58 You can run AIMA code on any CL implementation. 12:36:10 (and it's PAIP actually). 12:41:12 -!- antithesis [~antithesi@s51476e07.adsl.wanadoo.nl] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 12:45:38 -!- leppie [~lolcow@196-210-199-34.dynamic.isadsl.co.za] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 12:45:54 hmmm 12:46:17 I thougth chickens AWFUL was the most powerful web development environment? 12:48:23 -!- ramrunner [~dsp@host86-174-10-129.range86-174.btcentralplus.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 12:50:18 leppie [~lolcow@196-215-79-248.dynamic.isadsl.co.za] has joined #scheme 12:52:07 -!- tejaswidp [~tejaswidp@117.192.144.254] has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 12:53:51 -!- robolobster54 [~robolobst@77.241.58.140] has quit [Quit: This computer has gone to sleep] 12:54:00 phao [phao@187.91.113.102] has joined #scheme 12:54:28 -!- leppie [~lolcow@196-215-79-248.dynamic.isadsl.co.za] has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 12:55:08 robolobster54 [~robolobst@77.241.58.140] has joined #scheme 12:55:59 pjb: Oh, interesting; AIMA is PAIP? What do you mean? 12:56:11 -!- robolobster54 [~robolobst@77.241.58.140] has quit [Client Quit] 12:56:19 -!- pyro- is now known as DrunkenPanda 12:56:24 -!- DrunkenPanda is now known as PurplePanda 12:56:30 -!- PurplePanda is now known as pyro- 12:57:12 jonathansizz [~ian@70-138-242-181.lightspeed.hstntx.sbcglobal.net] has joined #scheme 12:57:12 getpwnam [~ian@70-138-242-181.lightspeed.hstntx.sbcglobal.net] has joined #scheme 12:57:52 hash_table [~quassel@70-138-242-181.lightspeed.hstntx.sbcglobal.net] has joined #scheme 12:58:08 -!- chaotic_good [~g@pool-173-60-202-188.lsanca.fios.verizon.net] has quit [Quit: Lost terminal] 12:59:12 leppie [~lolcow@196.215.142.189] has joined #scheme 13:01:28 klutometis: No. I mean that AIMA doesn't contain lisp code, only pseudo code. 13:01:34 while PAIP contains lisp code. 13:02:01 AIMA = theory, PAIP = practice. 13:02:54 -!- Facefox [~facefox@pool-74-111-197-200.lsanca.fios.verizon.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 13:03:35 tejaswidp [~tejaswidp@117.192.149.70] has joined #scheme 13:04:15 Facefox [~facefox@pool-74-111-197-200.lsanca.fios.verizon.net] has joined #scheme 13:04:16 -!- Facefox [~facefox@pool-74-111-197-200.lsanca.fios.verizon.net] has quit [Max SendQ exceeded] 13:04:45 Facefox [~facefox@pool-74-111-197-200.lsanca.fios.verizon.net] has joined #scheme 13:04:46 -!- Facefox [~facefox@pool-74-111-197-200.lsanca.fios.verizon.net] has quit [Max SendQ exceeded] 13:05:23 and i have bought both :( 13:05:50 Facefox [~facefox@pool-74-111-197-200.lsanca.fios.verizon.net] has joined #scheme 13:05:51 -!- Facefox [~facefox@pool-74-111-197-200.lsanca.fios.verizon.net] has quit [Max SendQ exceeded] 13:06:07 kk` [~kk@unaffiliated/kk/x-5380134] has joined #scheme 13:06:19 Facefox [~facefox@pool-74-111-197-200.lsanca.fios.verizon.net] has joined #scheme 13:06:20 -!- Facefox [~facefox@pool-74-111-197-200.lsanca.fios.verizon.net] has quit [Max SendQ exceeded] 13:07:25 Facefox [~facefox@pool-74-111-197-200.lsanca.fios.verizon.net] has joined #scheme 13:07:26 -!- Facefox [~facefox@pool-74-111-197-200.lsanca.fios.verizon.net] has quit [Max SendQ exceeded] 13:07:41 leo2007: good idea. They're both nice. 13:07:57 Facefox [~facefox@pool-74-111-197-200.lsanca.fios.verizon.net] has joined #scheme 13:08:18 pjb: I think I am going to read them this summer. 13:12:03 -!- vu3rdd [~vu3rdd@fsf/member/vu3rdd] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 13:12:45 That's what I thought when I got LiSP. Four years later, I finished it ;p 13:17:29 -!- langmartin [~user@host-68-169-154-130.WISOLT2.epbfi.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 13:19:40 what about tanimotos ? 13:20:11 ramrunner [~dsp@host86-174-10-129.range86-174.btcentralplus.com] has joined #scheme 13:22:42 -!- phao [phao@187.91.113.102] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 13:26:53 phao [phao@177.77.166.7] has joined #scheme 13:29:11 -!- DGASAU [~user@91.218.144.129] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 13:30:41 -!- jonathansizz [~ian@70-138-242-181.lightspeed.hstntx.sbcglobal.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 13:31:03 -!- hash_table [~quassel@70-138-242-181.lightspeed.hstntx.sbcglobal.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 13:31:03 -!- getpwnam [~ian@70-138-242-181.lightspeed.hstntx.sbcglobal.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 13:31:25 homie`` [~levgue@xdsl-84-44-154-73.netcologne.de] has joined #scheme 13:31:48 -!- madmuppet006 [~user@122-62-124-247.jetstream.xtra.co.nz] has quit [Quit: ERC Version 5.3 (IRC client for Emacs)] 13:33:08 -!- homie` [~levgue@xdsl-78-35-151-39.netcologne.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 13:36:51 -!- answer_42 [~answer_42@gateway/tor-sasl/answer42/x-66983568] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 13:37:19 -!- joast [~rick@98.145.85.206] has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 13:38:31 answer_42 [~answer_42@gateway/tor-sasl/answer42/x-66983568] has joined #scheme 13:38:52 -!- tejaswidp [~tejaswidp@117.192.149.70] has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 13:40:18 -!- ramrunner [~dsp@host86-174-10-129.range86-174.btcentralplus.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 13:40:41 ramrunner [~dsp@host86-174-10-129.range86-174.btcentralplus.com] has joined #scheme 13:52:12 tejaswidp [~tejaswidp@117.192.132.226] has joined #scheme 13:55:25 -!- copumpkin [~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin] has quit [Quit: Computer has gone to sleep.] 13:58:08 -!- confab is now known as confab_ 13:58:11 -!- confab_ is now known as confab__ 13:58:18 -!- confab__ is now known as confabot 13:58:21 -!- confabot is now known as confabot_ 13:58:24 -!- confabot_ is now known as confabulator 13:59:40 -!- confabulator is now known as confab 13:59:44 langmartin [~user@host-68-169-175-226.WISOLT2.epbfi.com] has joined #scheme 14:00:48 -!- tomodo [~tomodo@gateway/tor-sasl/tomodo] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 14:00:49 robolobster54 [~robolobst@109.144.26.87] has joined #scheme 14:03:40 -!- tejaswidp [~tejaswidp@117.192.132.226] has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 14:06:59 leo2007: btw, why didn't you use a binary package for Gambit? 14:08:37 woonie [~woonie@124.109.163.3] has joined #scheme 14:09:58 -!- fds [~fds@tickle.compsoc.man.ac.uk] has quit [Read error: Operation timed out] 14:10:05 fds [~fds@tickle.compsoc.man.ac.uk] has joined #scheme 14:11:18 -!- langmartin [~user@host-68-169-175-226.WISOLT2.epbfi.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 14:13:23 leo2007: it looks like you may have been dealing with a compiler bug. with gcc 4.2.1, os x 10.6.8, and ./configure --enable-single-host, Gambit builds for me on 4 cores in 1 minute of real time. 14:14:10 leo2007: however. i do get this disclaimer: 14:14:12 *** The GCC compiler that is being used has problems compiling Gambit *** 14:14:14 *** generated code when the normal set of C compiler optimizations are *** 14:14:16 *** enabled and the configure flag "--enable-single-host" is *** 14:14:18 *** specified. It can take over 20 GB of virtual memory to *** 14:14:20 *** compile some files. For this reason the GCC compiler optimization *** 14:14:22 *** which performs loop invariant code motion has been disabled by *** 14:14:43 copumpkin [~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin] has joined #scheme 14:14:54 leo2007: interestingly, on 8 cores, it also takes a minute of real time. :) 14:17:21 gravicappa [~gravicapp@ppp91-77-177-11.pppoe.mtu-net.ru] has joined #scheme 14:26:32 joast [~rick@98.145.85.206] has joined #scheme 14:26:36 -!- joast [~rick@98.145.85.206] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 14:30:03 drrckln [~drrckln@ool-18ba55c0.dyn.optonline.net] has joined #scheme 14:35:12 civodul [~user@reverse-83.fdn.fr] has joined #scheme 14:43:57 bipt [~bpt@cpe-071-070-253-241.nc.res.rr.com] has joined #scheme 14:47:18 getpwnam [~ian@128.249.96.123] has joined #scheme 14:47:23 jonathansizz [~ian@128.249.96.123] has joined #scheme 14:47:53 hash_table [~quassel@128.249.96.123] has joined #scheme 14:49:38 -!- robolobster54 [~robolobst@109.144.26.87] has quit [Ping timeout: 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like you may have been dealing with a compiler bug. with gcc 4.2.1, os x 10.6.8, and ./configure --enable-single-host, Gambit 20:33:04 builds for me on 4 cores in 1 minute of real time. 20:33:34 tcleval: i didn't measure peak memory. 20:36:26 qU1j0t3: 1 minute? impressive! 20:36:40 tcleval: it took 1 minute on 8 cores, too. 20:36:55 tcleval: so i'd suggest that leo2007 saw a compiler bug. 20:37:23 tcleval: maybe related to: 20:37:25 qU1j0t3 | leo2007: however. i do get this disclaimer: 20:37:27 qU1j0t3 | *** The GCC compiler that is being used has problems compiling Gambit *** 20:37:29 qU1j0t3 | *** generated code when the normal set of C compiler optimizations are *** 20:37:31 qU1j0t3 | *** enabled and the configure flag "--enable-single-host" is *** 20:37:33 qU1j0t3 | *** specified. It can take over 20 GB of virtual memory to *** 20:37:35 qU1j0t3 | *** compile some files. For this reason the GCC compiler optimization *** 20:37:37 qU1j0t3 | *** which performs loop invariant code motion has been disabled by *** 20:37:53 -!- kilimanjaro [~kilimanja@unaffiliated/kilimanjaro] has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 20:38:42 -!- bipt [~bpt@cpe-173-095-170-102.nc.res.rr.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 20:43:16 hummm 20:43:30 hey, do you guys know how can I do completion on emacs - gambit - inferior mode? 20:43:57 M-/ 20:44:37 -!- answer_42 [~answer_42@gateway/tor-sasl/answer42/x-66983568] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 20:46:27 mario-goulart: emacs says "No completions available; use M-x visit-tags-table or M-x semantic-mode" 20:46:32 adu [~ajr@pool-173-66-16-10.washdc.fios.verizon.net] has joined #scheme 20:46:57 kilimanjaro [~kilimanja@unaffiliated/kilimanjaro] has joined #scheme 20:47:15 mario-goulart: I defined a procedure on the scheme file, loaded it on inferior-mode - gambit - but still dont see completion working 20:48:02 tcleval: sorry. I thought M-/ was mode-agnostic. I don't know that gambit inferior mode. 20:48:46 mario-goulart: I mean by inferior mode , the gambit interpreter executed from emacs 20:50:43 -!- palach [~palach@93.175.8.83] has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 20:50:49 Oh, I see. I think M-/ completes based on text from the buffer. Maybe it doesn't look for completions on other buffers -- the actual code buffers (I'm not sure). 20:52:21 mario-goulart: it gets really anoying when I have this long procedure names and this huge api I am building , and write every new procedure name on the shell... 20:54:34 DGASAU [~user@91.218.144.129] has joined #scheme 20:56:29 -!- gravicappa [~gravicapp@ppp91-77-177-11.pppoe.mtu-net.ru] has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 20:58:05 -!- bima [~comel@125.161.22.196] has quit [Quit: Linkinus - http://linkinus.com] 21:04:59 -!- tejaswidp [~tejaswidp@117.192.152.1] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 21:05:27 -!- tuubow [~adityavit@c-69-136-105-164.hsd1.nj.comcast.net] has quit [Read error: Operation timed out] 21:05:32 tuubow_ [~adityavit@c-69-136-105-164.hsd1.nj.comcast.net] has joined #scheme 21:06:49 -!- tcleval [~funnyguy@177.19.112.252] has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 21:08:14 ramrunner [~dsp@host86-167-254-162.range86-167.btcentralplus.com] has joined #scheme 21:09:28 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So the bug make it take 89 minutes. 23:09:01 leo2007: I guess so. that would explain the VM explosion too. 23:09:27 leo2007: however, the configure script claims that it worked around the bug. in my case this was true, and in your case, seemingly not. 23:09:55 qU1j0t3: do you use homebrew? 23:11:28 leo2007: no 23:11:32 leo2007: that was from the tarball 23:12:38 anyway I got it built and installed last night. 23:14:04 ok. 23:27:53 -!- tupi [~david@139.82.89.157] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 23:28:50 talk later. off to work now 23:28:54 -!- leo2007 [~leo@222.130.140.59] has quit [Quit: rcirc on GNU Emacs 24.1.1] 23:32:04 acarrico [~acarrico@pppoe-68-142-63-124.gmavt.net] has joined #scheme 23:33:46 tomobrien [~tomobrien@host-92-2-73-195.as43234.net] has joined #scheme 23:38:04 -!- tomobrien [~tomobrien@host-92-2-73-195.as43234.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 23:39:07 fantazo [~fantazo@91.119.112.29] has joined #scheme 23:39:52 rbarraud [~rbarraud@125-239-196-121.jetstream.xtra.co.nz] has joined #scheme 23:44:37 -!- ramrunner [~dsp@host86-184-176-223.range86-184.btcentralplus.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 23:49:38 -!- jonrafkind [~jon@racket/jonrafkind] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 23:55:25 -!- masm [~masm@bl18-42-187.dsl.telepac.pt] has quit [Quit: Leaving.]