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12:44:15 <klutometis> If you had a procedure that returned multiple values; the values, namely, A and B; would you call that collections of values A+B or A&B?
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13:03:02 <klutometis> Fuck it, we'll go with ampersand; either seems weird, though.
13:03:53 <pjb> If you don't have anything more specific: results or values can do too.
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13:15:13 <klutometis> pjb: That's good in a pinch; looking for something more specific, though. Riastradh's style good ignores multiple values, unfortunately.
13:15:21 <klutometis> s/good/guide/.
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15:50:16 <ssbr> is this valid RnRS scheme, or just a Racket-ism? "(define-syntax foo (lambda (stx) (datum->syntax stx '(define x 3))))"
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15:50:36 <ssbr> it doesn't look like it's in R6RS, but I've seen people claiming it is. Maybe I'm not reading it right.
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15:53:58 <wingo> it's r6rs
15:54:12 <wingo> ssbr^
15:55:01 <ssbr> wingo: any chance you could help me find where it is?
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15:57:20 <wingo> define-syntax is in the main report i think
15:57:30 <wingo> and syntax->datum is in the library report
15:57:37 <wingo> you should be able to find them in the indices
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15:58:16 <leppie> yes, that is R6RS
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16:12:41 <ssbr> wingo: well, specifically that you can define-syntax for a function that takes syntax objects and such
16:12:50 <ssbr> wingo: rather than only define-syntax with syntax-case and syntax-rules and so on
16:15:17 <ssbr> I seem to remember something about most of it being implementation defined...?
16:16:48 <ssbr> oh, it's all in the library report
16:16:51 <ssbr> under syntax-case
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16:17:26 <wingo> yes, most of the juicy bits are in the library report
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16:19:18 <ssbr> is R7RS shaping up to be decent? I remember the attitude about R6RS was that nobody cared and nobody followed it
16:20:14 *LeoNerd* nearly confuses decent with descent
16:23:02 <ijp> depends on your definition of decent
16:23:06 <asumu> ssbr: a bunch of implementations followed it. Chez, Larceny, Racket, Ypsilon, etc.
16:23:15 <asumu> But yes, some notable ones didn't.
16:23:28 <ssbr> asumu: maybe that was just the attitude among the people I talked to, then
16:23:41 <ijp> it's a common enough attitude
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17:04:35 <__rahul__> is there a standard permutations function?
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17:11:00 <answer_42> no
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17:13:23 <__rahul__> answer_42: was that to me?
17:13:29 <answer_42> yes
17:13:38 <answer_42> http://mitpress.mit.edu/sicp/full-text/sicp/book/node35.html
17:14:00 <answer_42> there you can find an implementation for a permutation function
17:15:26 <__rahul__> yes, incidentally i am going through the same. but for future use i was trying to find a standard function.
17:16:18 <answer_42> if you use Chicken: http://api.call-cc.org/doc/statistics/permutations
17:16:26 <__rahul__> i wonder if there is a reason scheme doesn't have anything like the python itertools module (if it doesn't)
17:17:03 <answer_42> Because it has a 'minimal philosophy'
17:17:15 <__rahul__> thanks, this looks good
17:17:16 <answer_42> the language is simpel, but powerful
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17:19:48 <__rahul__> indeed, i quite like it.
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