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10:56:01 it's quit simple in fact ^^, thanks 10:59:29 cdidd [~cdidd@95-25-73-184.broadband.corbina.ru] has joined #scheme 11:10:16 Jayrays [~parabola@pool-72-64-227-208.tampfl.fios.verizon.net] has joined #scheme 11:10:19 -!- mucker [~mucker@183.83.242.121] has quit [Quit: leaving] 11:10:28 mucker [~mucker@183.83.242.121] has joined #scheme 11:11:36 masm [~masm@bl18-43-11.dsl.telepac.pt] has joined #scheme 11:20:56 God; what a miserable CLispism DEFSETF is. Or maybe not. Maybe only when you're translating Schemewardly. 11:24:19 How would you simulate `atom' in Scheme, by the way: `(complement pair?)'? 11:28:08 -!- cdidd [~cdidd@95-25-73-184.broadband.corbina.ru] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 11:28:15 MrFahrenheit [~RageOfTho@cable-77-221-22-211.dynamic.vinet.ba] has joined #scheme 11:31:57 -!- Jayrays [~parabola@pool-72-64-227-208.tampfl.fios.verizon.net] has quit [Changing host] 11:31:57 Jayrays [~parabola@unaffiliated/jayrays] has joined #scheme 11:35:10 This is classic, by the way: "Welcome to the Common Lisp HyperSpec. I hope it serves your need. --Kent Pitman" 11:47:07 Master of understatement, Kent is; on the other hand, I could see him writing it with a sardonic grin. 11:54:47 robolobster54 [~robolobst@109.144.18.80] has joined #scheme 11:59:13 klutometis: sorry, but this is exactly the demonstration why Scheme is mostly a toy. 11:59:52 -!- ExitSuccess [c2fea714@gateway/web/freenode/ip.194.254.167.20] has quit [Quit: Page closed] 12:00:03 You have to jump through the multiple hoops to implement such easy and important thing as setf expanders. 12:07:14 attila_lendvai [~attila_le@87.247.58.24] has joined #scheme 12:07:14 -!- attila_lendvai [~attila_le@87.247.58.24] has quit [Changing host] 12:07:14 attila_lendvai [~attila_le@unaffiliated/attila-lendvai/x-3126965] has joined #scheme 12:08:47 -!- robolobster54 [~robolobst@109.144.18.80] has quit [Quit: This computer has gone to sleep] 12:13:29 -!- attila_lendvai [~attila_le@unaffiliated/attila-lendvai/x-3126965] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 12:17:20 ASau: When do you typically use them? 12:17:37 Norvig seems to use them for positionally-sensitive lists where records or objects might have sufficed. 12:19:28 robolobster54 [~robolobst@109.144.19.100] has joined #scheme 12:21:04 cdidd [~cdidd@93-80-120-131.broadband.corbina.ru] has joined #scheme 12:23:51 -!- samth_away is now known as samth 12:25:34 -!- ThePawnBreak [Cristi@94.177.108.25] has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 12:26:05 klutometis: in all cases when I need to mutate state. 12:26:59 It is much easier to write (setf (something state somewhere) new-value) 12:27:23 than remember which exactly procedure implements that. 12:28:08 If you're talking about objects, then you don't usually need to use defsetf, CLOS does it for you. 12:30:08 -!- copumpkin [~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 12:33:34 copumpkin [~copumpkin@gw1.mcgraw-hill.com] has joined #scheme 12:33:44 -!- copumpkin [~copumpkin@gw1.mcgraw-hill.com] has quit [Changing host] 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by services] 14:35:18 pygospa [~Pygosceli@kiel-5f77b7ad.pool.mediaWays.net] has joined #scheme 14:35:19 good day everyone 14:45:39 dnolen [~user@12.130.123.197] has joined #scheme 14:57:47 -!- chu [~mathew.ba@CPE-124-176-25-97.lns2.dea.bigpond.net.au] has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 14:59:41 FRSHPRNCFBLR [~noone@CPE00222d560998-CM00222d560995.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com] has joined #scheme 15:04:57 Blkt: hi 15:09:31 tomobrien [~tomobrien@host-92-2-68-225.as43234.net] has joined #scheme 15:12:13 rgc [~user@214.Red-193-153-246.dynamicIP.rima-tde.net] has joined #scheme 15:16:13 stis [~stis@1-1-1-39a.veo.vs.bostream.se] has joined #scheme 15:16:25 kuribas [~user@94-227-36-245.access.telenet.be] has joined #scheme 15:26:50 k-vinh123 [c2fea714@gateway/web/freenode/ip.194.254.167.20] has joined #scheme 15:27:34 ExitSuccess [c2fea714@gateway/web/freenode/ip.194.254.167.20] has joined #scheme 15:32:15 Cheery [~cheery@a88-113-48-33.elisa-laajakaista.fi] has joined #scheme 15:32:57 jonrafkind 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I would like to know if It's possible to espace the charactere " in a file. I really lock on this problem 15:49:35 escape* 15:51:14 k-vinh123: more context please? 15:51:36 k-vinh123: you mean inside a string literal? 15:52:41 I do a read in my file and I take all word to put inside a list 15:53:00 however in the file there is " blabla " 15:53:17 So I wanted to avoid all spaces 15:53:59 still not clear. you want to strip the "'s out, and remove leading and trailing spaces? 15:57:58 -!- k-vinh123 [c2fea714@gateway/web/freenode/ip.194.254.167.20] has quit [Quit: Page closed] 16:02:11 hiyosi [~hiyosi@102.124.30.125.dy.iij4u.or.jp] has joined #scheme 16:14:08 -!- gravicappa [~gravicapp@ppp91-77-185-171.pppoe.mtu-net.ru] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 16:19:59 Hey folks, a little announcement for a toy I'm hacking on and just put into a public repo! 16:20:29 It's on https://gitorious.org/aschm/aschm adn called ascm and ... 16:21:27 is try to port of sbcl's assembler and vop infrastructure to scheme! 16:22:54 note, it does not work yet and is a work in progress! 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