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01:05:19 bfgun [~b_fin_g@r190-135-20-217.dialup.adsl.anteldata.net.uy] has joined #scheme 01:09:09 -!- bfig [~b_fin_g@r190-135-50-80.dialup.adsl.anteldata.net.uy] has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 01:10:51 -!- attila_lendvai [~attila_le@unaffiliated/attila-lendvai/x-3126965] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 01:14:26 Yes -- I saw it in a bookstore once (actually the MIT bookstore), looked at the first page, said "Holy Christ but that's complicated", and put it back on the shelf. 01:15:06 -!- SeanTAllen [u4855@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-meowkusdmfenvaue] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 01:16:00 kilimanjaro [~kilimanja@unaffiliated/kilimanjaro] has joined #scheme 01:16:10 SeanTAllen [u4855@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-comajksizedjsfko] has joined #scheme 01:18:21 wollw [~davidsher@75-101-85-170.dsl.dynamic.sonic.net] has joined #scheme 01:31:18 -!- copumpkin [~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin] has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 01:31:54 copumpkin [~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin] has joined #scheme 01:35:45 -!- MontgoDB [~mmontgome@cpe-66-69-6-73.satx.res.rr.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 01:36:15 Nisstyre [~yours@c-208-90-102-250.netflash.net] has joined #scheme 01:37:15 jonrafkind [~jon@racket/jonrafkind] has joined #scheme 01:38:35 MontgoDB [~mmontgome@cpe-66-69-6-73.satx.res.rr.com] has joined #scheme 01:44:10 -!- ssbr_ [~ssbr@python/site-packages/ssbr] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 02:01:36 kvda [~kvda@202.58.240.18] has joined #scheme 02:04:33 -!- Nisstyre [~yours@c-208-90-102-250.netflash.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 02:06:27 Nisstyre [~yours@c-208-90-102-250.netflash.net] has joined #scheme 02:09:59 -!- sizz [~customIRC@70-138-242-181.lightspeed.hstntx.sbcglobal.net] has left #scheme 02:12:25 -!- kvda [~kvda@202.58.240.18] has quit [Quit: Computer has gone to sleep.] 02:14:54 didi [~user@unaffiliated/didi/x-1022147] has joined #scheme 02:14:54 soveran [~soveran@186.19.214.247] has joined #scheme 02:19:33 -!- em [~em@unaffiliated/emma] has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 02:29:38 -!- turbofail [~user@c-24-5-89-172.hsd1.ca.comcast.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 02:32:53 -!- qu1j0t3 [~qu1j0t3@vm4.telegraphics.com.au] has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 02:35:51 -!- Whitesquall [~notwhites@94.242.189.213] has left #scheme 02:37:08 -!- realitygrill [~realitygr@76.226.207.21] has quit [Quit: Computer has gone to sleep] 02:43:50 RITRedbeard__ [~RITReadbe@129.21.107.84] has joined #scheme 02:44:05 -!- jhemann [Jason@140-182-224-62.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 02:47:02 tuubow [~adityavit@c-69-136-105-164.hsd1.nj.comcast.net] has joined #scheme 02:47:10 -!- RITRedbeard [~RITReadbe@t410.student.rit.edu] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 02:49:00 -!- masm [~masm@bl18-55-236.dsl.telepac.pt] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 02:52:54 emma_ [~em@unaffiliated/emma] has joined #scheme 02:53:02 kvda [~kvda@202.58.240.18] has joined #scheme 02:56:07 -!- emma_ is now known as emma 02:56:14 -!- emma is now known as em 03:02:55 -!- jao [~user@pdpc/supporter/professional/jao] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 03:05:14 adu [~ajr@pool-173-66-11-244.washdc.fios.verizon.net] has joined #scheme 03:06:08 ThePawnBreak [Cristi@94.177.108.25] has joined #scheme 03:09:37 MontgoDB1 [~mmontgome@cpe-66-69-6-73.satx.res.rr.com] has joined #scheme 03:10:11 -!- MontgoDB [~mmontgome@cpe-66-69-6-73.satx.res.rr.com] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 03:19:19 -!- MrFahrenheit [~RageOfTho@users-55-233.vinet.ba] has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 03:20:01 -!- RITRedbeard__ [~RITReadbe@129.21.107.84] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 03:21:42 realitygrill [~realitygr@76.226.207.21] has joined #scheme 03:23:15 jhemann [~Jason@adsl-108-67-91-107.dsl.bltnin.sbcglobal.net] has joined #scheme 03:23:40 -!- MichaelRaskin [~MichaelRa@3ad50e34.broker.freenet6.net] has left #scheme 03:32:40 how many levels does syntax-rules support? 03:33:47 as in (((a b )  c d)  e f) 03:39:28 there is no restriction 03:39:36 o no 03:39:46 -!- ThePawnBreak [Cristi@94.177.108.25] has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 03:40:01 my scheme only supports 2 levels 03:40:02 yome [~guillaume@bas1-montreal07-2925061612.dsl.bell.ca] has joined #scheme 03:40:06 how do I fix it? 03:40:29 jcowan [~John@mail.digitalkingdom.org] has joined #scheme 03:40:46 but all of the trivial syntaxes, like and, or, when, unless, only require 1 level 03:41:11 Sarahbot: yow! 03:41:12 so? 03:41:19 it's things like let*, letrec, parameterize, guard, etc. that require 2+ levels 03:42:24 I suppose I could support 3 levels, and then document it 03:42:36 perhaps you and I are using level differently 03:42:47 hoi 03:42:51 (a b ) is 1 level 03:42:59 ((a b )  c d) is 2 levels 03:43:08 (((a b )  c d)  e f) is 3 levels 03:43:16 then you have a mistaken impression of those macros 03:43:17 ((((a b )  c d)  e f) .. g h) is 4 levels 03:43:21 (let* ((foo bar) ...) baz ...) is one 1 level 03:43:39 I'm not talking about macros 03:43:48 I'm only talking about patterns 03:44:10 it's things like let*, letrec, parameterize, guard, etc. that require _2+_ levels 03:44:23 yes 03:44:29 that's only true for guard 03:44:38 ok 03:44:42 sorry 03:44:54 I need to do research before I talk 03:45:45 my big problem is with ellipses 03:45:51 anyway, I haven't implemented a nested matcher in a long time, so I'll leave it for someone else to answer 03:46:09 oh, right, nesting 03:46:12 that would help 03:46:22 but I can't figure out how to nest pattern matching 03:47:20 the way I'm implementing pattern matching is I give my match function an empty environment and hope that it has all the pattern=syntax pairs when the function is done 03:47:28 -!- zarus [~dilange88@24.196.113.147] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 03:49:24 so to implement nesting I would have to give an empty environment to the list matching function, then it would have to give an empty environment to every element of itself, then it would have to transpose the environment in such a way that instead of having a list of environments for each element, it would have an environment of lists, which is not something I immediately know how to implement 03:49:31 -!- drumond19 [~drumond19@186.214.54.97] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 03:50:25 jcowan: I am *this* close to having a complete syntax-rules implementation 03:51:36 Teh goodness. 03:51:44 Teh=? 03:52:06 "The", but with a specialized emphasis that's hard to explain. 03:52:23 oh, the hacker/forum/troll "the" 03:52:50 *jcowan* is a hacker (in a different sense), so why not? 03:53:00 lol 03:53:32 confab [~confab@c-71-193-9-153.hsd1.ca.comcast.net] has joined #scheme 03:53:32 lcc [~user@unaffiliated/lcc] has joined #scheme 03:53:34 And #scheme is a forum, though with different technology. 03:54:01 jcowan: so I've been working a lot on my scheme 03:54:25 Anything interesting come up? 03:54:44 the functions of R7RS I haven't implemented yet are: call/cc, cond-expand, do, dynamic-wind, guard, with-exception-handler 03:54:50 -!- mutley89 [~mutley89@cpc1-hudd6-0-0-cust741.4-1.cable.virginmedia.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 03:54:55 jcowan: not sure if this has been discussed on R7RS, but why is " a delimiter? 03:55:09 everything else is at 90% done 03:55:25 (write"hello") 03:55:46 Because it makes sense to the WG, and because essentially all Schemes do it that way. 03:56:18 jcowan: I want to be the first scheme ever to be both R6RS and R7RS compliant at the same time 03:56:45 rudybot: (list 1|cons|) 03:56:46 leppie: your sandbox is ready 03:56:46 leppie: error: reference to an identifier before its definition: 1cons in module: 'program 03:57:07 jcowan: that response from rudybot is wrong, correct? 03:57:45 iirc | can go anywhere 03:57:54 like hello| |world 03:57:55 It's R7RS-wrong, but that's one of the places where we had to choose. A majority wanted to treat | like " 03:58:02 That's true in CL. 03:58:37 I expected '(1 ), is that what R7RS agrees on? 03:58:50 without the quote ;p 03:58:50 jcowan: fixnum->bignum conversion was a bitch 03:58:50 -!- araujo [~araujo@gentoo/developer/araujo] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 03:59:56 -!- soveran [~soveran@186.19.214.247] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 03:59:59 at first I was confused that 2^32*2^32 = 0, but then I realized why 04:00:00 Kawa, Shoe, TinyScheme, VX, DfSch are the only ones that treat a"b" as a single symbol. 04:02:05 on the R6RS/R7RS front, I already accept both #vu8() and #u8() syntaxes 04:02:27 Sounds good. 04:02:45 I'm working on my I/O proposal for R7RS-large 04:02:48 jcowan: do any of your schemes return 8 for (define 3 4) (+ 3 3) ? 04:03:14 ISTR one implementation that did this, but it's name eludes me 04:03:28 I should hope not. 04:03:33 But I'll try... 04:03:33 *ijp* is not endorsing this behaviuor 04:04:07 jcowan: likely just a bug; looking up a symbol, before testing if it's a number 04:05:42 jcowan: what is this supposed to return: http://paste.lisp.org/display/129161 ? 04:06:28 All of them report a syntax error except DfSch, which quietly ignores the define. 04:06:33 (or some kind of error, anyway) 04:06:44 maybe I was just misremembering 04:07:13 adu: I'd expect a 4 at the repl 04:07:13 adu: Should return 4 by R7RS rules, at least in the REPL. Outside the REPL, it's an error. 04:07:36 Some Schemes segfault on (define 3 4), which I count as reporting an error. 04:07:36 what kind of error? 04:08:01 both guile and racket return 4 04:08:06 An "I can't cope and I give up error" 04:08:08 and droscheme returns 4 04:08:12 qu1j0t3 [~qu1j0t3@vm4.telegraphics.com.au] has joined #scheme 04:08:15 -!- tuubow [~adityavit@c-69-136-105-164.hsd1.nj.comcast.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 04:08:36 so I think I'm doing something right 04:09:09 also a made sure droscheme's eqv? handled -0.0 and +nan.0 the same as guile/racket 04:10:34 woonie [~woonie@nusnet-242-128.dynip.nus.edu.sg] has joined #scheme 04:11:28 the only difference I've found between guile and racket is that guile treats (equal? 0.0 -0.0) as true, but racket treats it as false 04:11:59 rudybot: (eqv? 0.0 -0.0) 04:11:59 jonrafkind: your sandbox is ready 04:12:00 jonrafkind: ; Value: #f 04:12:12 tuubow [~adityavit@c-69-136-105-164.hsd1.nj.comcast.net] has joined #scheme 04:12:49 Okay, all my Schemes return 4 at the REPL, except the ones that don't have define-syntax. 04:13:02 jcowan: thanks :) 04:13:17 MichaelRaskin [~MichaelRa@2001:5c0:1400:b::1] has joined #scheme 04:14:23 BTW, my unit tests have shown that chibi is stupid 04:15:02 What did you turn up? 04:15:13 rudybot: (= 0.0 -0.0) 04:15:13 ijp: ; Value: #t 04:15:14 in chibi, (= +inf.0 +inf.0) => #f 04:15:30 Huh. 04:15:35 in chibi, (< +nan.0 +nan.0) => #t 04:16:11 which I think is odd 04:16:20 That's wrong too. 04:16:22 I wrote my unit tests for me 04:16:36 then I substituted droscheme => guile, then some other impls 04:16:37 -!- yome [~guillaume@bas1-montreal07-2925061612.dsl.bell.ca] has quit [Quit: yome] 04:16:39 it was fun 04:16:45 Seems like more conformance tests than unit tests. 04:16:54 yes 04:17:02 But that's a Good Thing. 04:17:17 One of the R7RS goals is to provide tests, but no one has done so to date. 04:17:18 but (= 0.0 -0.0) is not specified anywhere, but both guile and racket believe it to be true 04:17:22 Well, there are chibi tests. 04:17:29 well, except IEEE-754 04:17:34 adu: yes it is 04:17:42 It definitely should be true. 04:18:22 and (eqv? 0.0 -0.0) is false in many schemes, due to operational distinguishability 04:18:26 You have to be careful with that test, because implementations may treat -0.0 as synonymous with 0.0 04:18:37 So you have to use a function that will (hopefully) generate a proper -0.0 04:18:48 like (/ -inf.0) 04:19:07 (/ (/ -1.0 0.0)) 04:19:14 (zero? +0.0)  #t (zero? -0.0)  #t, by transitivity (= +0.0 -0.0) 04:19:32 -!- r126f [~ruwin126@120.142.67.254] has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 04:19:41 https://github.com/andydude/droscheme/tree/master/tests 04:20:18 r126f [~ruwin126@120.142.67.254] has joined #scheme 04:20:28 o wait I need to update that 04:21:08 For portability you should (define (assert x) (if x #t (error "Assert fail"))) 04:21:27 oh thanks 04:21:28 -!- woonie [~woonie@nusnet-242-128.dynip.nus.edu.sg] has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 04:21:40 jcowan: assert returns the value according to r6rs 04:21:45 Okay. 04:21:48 adu: of course, you would need to allow for a small amount of error 04:22:18 jcowan: though I doubt this is widely used in practice 04:22:41 It sounds like a Good Thing: you can just wrap expressions in asserts 04:23:00 ijp: my unit of granularity is a file, if anything in a file fails, then the whole file might blow up 04:23:02 R7RS-wg1 rejected assert, so it will probably go in the WG2 input hopper. 04:23:19 it's a trivial wrapper around 'or' anyway 04:24:36 Minimally, but a good implementation should report what expression failed and where. 04:24:51 of course 04:24:53 There was considerable dispute about whether it should accept string/irritant args also. 04:30:58 there we go, I uploaded the rest of my tests 04:32:12 -!- rageous [~Adium@71-215-200-175.mpls.qwest.net] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 04:33:29 -!- lcc [~user@unaffiliated/lcc] has left #scheme 04:40:54 -!- toekutr [~user@50-0-51-244.dsl.static.sonic.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 04:43:46 adu: you can file a bug 04:51:35 The inequality operators actually check the sign of a-b, which of course breaks with the newly added infinities: (- +inf.0 +inf.0) => +nan.0. 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11:58:27 ahinki [~chatzilla@212.99.10.150] has joined #scheme 12:00:07 replore_ [~replore@EM117-55-65-133.emobile.ad.jp] has joined #scheme 12:00:55 robolobster54 [~robolobst@195.55.84.163] has joined #scheme 12:06:24 I'm trying to install propagators (https://github.com/namin/propagators), but following those instructions (namely to run (load "load") in scheme in the propagator/ directory) produces the error "Unable to find file "load" because: File does not exist" 12:10:51 maybe it wants (load "load.scm") i'm only guessing 12:11:48 thanks pyro-, that's what I thought but I get the same message 12:12:11 How can I check whether Edwin/emacs is in fact running scheme on the desired directory? 12:14:47 eni [~eni@gob75-5-82-230-88-217.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #scheme 12:15:24 mit/gnu scheme? http://web.mit.edu/scheme_v9.0.1/doc/mit-scheme-user/Loading-Files.html says that (pwd) exists the --load switch also might be helpful 12:16:30 -!- chturne [~chturne@2.28.99.43] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 12:16:43 jhemann [~Jason@adsl-108-67-91-107.dsl.bltnin.sbcglobal.net] has joined #scheme 12:17:20 thanks. it seems that it is not in fact in the desired directory, even though i ran it from there in the terminal. I'm using edwin for Mac OS X 12:19:26 answer_42 [~answer_42@gateway/tor-sasl/answer42/x-66983568] has joined #scheme 12:19:47 -!- jhemann [~Jason@adsl-108-67-91-107.dsl.bltnin.sbcglobal.net] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 12:20:20 Silly me. Thanks pyro- 12:20:43 :) 12:22:20 hm, i changed the did to propagator and it still doesn't work 12:22:26 -!- leppie [~lolcow@196-210-143-247.dynamic.isadsl.co.za] has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 12:22:37 tried both load and load.scm 12:22:50 (pwd) returns the right directory 12:24:41 -!- dca [~user@178.252.127.251] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 12:24:52 dca [~user@178.252.127.251] has joined #scheme 12:25:40 -!- lbc [~quassel@h198.natout.aau.dk] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 12:25:52 pyro- any clue? 12:27:53 sorry no 12:28:01 i don't have time to investigate it myself at 12:28:03 atm* 12:28:14 leppie [~lolcow@196-210-248-114.dynamic.isadsl.co.za] has joined #scheme 12:28:45 thanks anyway 12:29:00 anyone here familiar with multi-threading on GNU/MIT-Scheme? 12:29:25 MrFahrenheit [~RageOfTho@users-55-233.vinet.ba] has joined #scheme 12:32:16 Arafangion [~Arafangio@220-244-108-23.static.tpgi.com.au] has joined #scheme 12:35:18 tupi [~david@139.82.89.24] has joined #scheme 12:36:03 -!- tizoc` is now known as tizoc 12:36:16 -!- tizoc [~user@li25-112.members.linode.com] has quit [Changing host] 12:36:16 tizoc [~user@unaffiliated/tizoc] has joined #scheme 12:39:27 -!- robolobster54 [~robolobst@195.55.84.163] has quit [Quit: This computer has gone to sleep] 12:42:39 airolson [~airolson@CPE00222d55a738-CM00222d55a735.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com] has joined #scheme 12:45:05 mutley89 [~mutley89@cpc1-hudd6-0-0-cust741.4-1.cable.virginmedia.com] has joined #scheme 12:45:41 -!- leppie [~lolcow@196-210-248-114.dynamic.isadsl.co.za] has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 12:48:06 leppie [~lolcow@196-210-143-247.dynamic.isadsl.co.za] has joined #scheme 12:54:26 robolobster54 [~robolobst@109.144.220.2] has joined #scheme 12:59:23 hey adu, I made a comment on one of your tests 12:59:37 also adu: have you tried the R6RS tests? 13:00:10 nope where are they? 13:01:03 somehwre in the racket repo ;p 13:01:10 or in my repo 13:01:33 https://github.com/leppie/IronScheme/tree/master/IronScheme/IronScheme.Console/tests/r6rs 13:01:37 http://tinyurl.com/6odljg3 13:01:45 -!- rageous [~Adium@71-215-200-175.mpls.qwest.net] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 13:01:58 almost 9000 tests :) 13:02:10 nce 13:02:14 nice 13:03:07 as long as your exception model is the same as R6RS, it should work, given you have syntax implemented 13:03:58 well, I'm still working on syntax, so far I have 2 levels of ellipses implemented 13:04:11 which is good enough for most macros 13:04:20 you going level by level? ;p 13:04:38 I intend to make it recursive, when I can figure out how 13:04:42 *leppie* cheated and used psyntax ;p 13:04:51 what's psyntax? 13:05:20 an entire R6RS library system and all the syntax from R6RS (yes all!) 13:05:48 cool 13:06:17 leppie: where was your comment? 13:07:02 lolcow [~lolcow@196-210-248-114.dynamic.isadsl.co.za] has joined #scheme 13:07:09 many schemes use psyntax 13:07:54 chez, vicare/ikarus, guile, IronScheme 13:08:17 adu: https://github.com/andydude/droscheme/commit/91ede59ca6d9cb814ec03f67497d5245c755f132#tests/integer.ss-P2 13:08:20 http://tinyurl.com/828bz7g 13:09:12 soveran [~soveran@186.19.214.247] has joined #scheme 13:09:51 -!- leppie [~lolcow@196-210-143-247.dynamic.isadsl.co.za] has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 13:09:52 Mosh uses it too IIRC 13:09:56 -!- lolcow is now known as leppie 13:11:26 leppie: thanks 13:11:57 you need just a basic scheme to bootstrap it initially, then you are GO! 13:12:32 I used one of the preexpanded scheme files to load it initially, and pretty much worked first time :) 13:12:45 folks, (load "filename") is returning File doesn't exist, any idea what could be wrong? I've checked and scheme is running in the correct directory. Thanks 13:13:08 leo2007 [~leo@123.114.36.7] has joined #scheme 13:15:22 i've no idea but have you tried providing a full path and checking premissions? 13:15:36 *permissions 13:16:07 I have not, let me try… BTW what are the right permissions? 13:16:12 dnolen [~user@cpe-98-14-92-234.nyc.res.rr.com] has joined #scheme 13:16:32 leppie: preexpanded? 13:16:59 adu: yes, into basic scheme, like lambda if begin 13:17:04 -!- airolson [~airolson@CPE00222d55a738-CM00222d55a735.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com] has quit [] 13:17:10 r_r_r full path doesn't work 13:17:36 oh is that what psyntax.pp is? 13:18:21 r_r_r these are the permissions on the file I'm trying to load -rw-r--r-- 13:18:30 adu: yes! looking but not find it now ;p 13:18:49 attila_lendvai [~attila_le@unaffiliated/attila-lendvai/x-3126965] has joined #scheme 13:19:08 http://www.cs.indiana.edu/syntax-case/7.3/psyntax.pp 13:19:16 http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~aghuloum/r6rs-libraries/r6rs-libraries.dev/files/head:/pre-built/ 13:19:17 http://tinyurl.com/7hda698 13:19:25 it's rather ugly :) 13:19:32 i think i used gambit 13:19:44 robolobster54, maybe the path contains unicode symbols or spaces or something? i've had some problems with it on windows 13:19:52 very ugly, but that is what expanded scheme looks like 13:20:59 r_r_r nope, it doesn't this is really weird 13:21:12 *it doesn't, this is really weird 13:21:28 which compiler? what os? just out of curiosity 13:21:46 Edwin on OSX Lion 13:24:33 This is what I'm trying to use http://groups.csail.mit.edu/mac/users/gjs/propagators/propagator.tar 13:24:33 Instructions here: http://groups.csail.mit.edu/mac/users/gjs/propagators/revised-html.html#SECTION00030000000000000000 13:24:34 http://tinyurl.com/737syqu 13:24:50 "Once you have it, go to the propagator/ directory, start up your Scheme and load the main entry file with (load "load")." 13:27:58 leppie: I almost don't want to use psyntax 13:32:07 aaaaaaaah huge flying massive spaghetti monster balls! I typed in the wrong directory. I shall show myself out. 13:32:23 ThePawnBreak121 [Cristi@94.177.108.25] has joined #scheme 13:32:44 -!- ThePawnBreak121 [Cristi@94.177.108.25] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 13:36:25 -!- ThePawnBreak [Cristi@94.177.108.25] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 13:36:37 How can you join once and quit twice? 13:37:16 with different names 13:37:50 the wonders of call/cc 13:38:06 lol 13:39:33 ijp`` [~user@host86-173-112-9.range86-173.btcentralplus.com] has joined #scheme 13:42:15 -!- ijp` [~user@host86-179-78-91.range86-179.btcentralplus.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 13:46:27 -!- copumpkin [~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin] has quit [Quit: Computer has gone to sleep.] 13:46:38 ijp``` [~user@host81-159-200-204.range81-159.btcentralplus.com] has joined #scheme 13:48:16 ijp```` [~user@host86-182-152-193.range86-182.btcentralplus.com] has joined #scheme 13:49:50 -!- ijp`` [~user@host86-173-112-9.range86-173.btcentralplus.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 13:49:51 ijp````` [~user@host31-53-169-229.range31-53.btcentralplus.com] has joined #scheme 13:49:58 -!- homie [~levgue@xdsl-87-79-192-121.netcologne.de] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 13:51:32 homie [~levgue@xdsl-87-79-192-121.netcologne.de] has joined #scheme 13:51:35 -!- ijp``` [~user@host81-159-200-204.range81-159.btcentralplus.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 13:53:20 -!- ijp```` [~user@host86-182-152-193.range86-182.btcentralplus.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 13:55:41 wingo: :) 13:57:20 -!- robolobster54 [~robolobst@109.144.220.2] has quit [Quit: This computer has gone to sleep] 13:59:23 jlongster [~user@pool-108-4-74-122.rcmdva.fios.verizon.net] has joined #scheme 14:01:58 -!- homie [~levgue@xdsl-87-79-192-121.netcologne.de] has quit [Quit: ERC Version 5.3 (IRC client for Emacs)] 14:03:33 wbooze [~levgue@xdsl-87-79-192-121.netcologne.de] has joined #scheme 14:06:41 homie [~levgue@xdsl-87-79-192-121.netcologne.de] has joined #scheme 14:07:00 -!- ijp````` [~user@host31-53-169-229.range31-53.btcentralplus.com] has quit [Quit: The garbage collector got me] 14:07:27 ijp derives no more 14:08:44 -!- attila_lendvai [~attila_le@unaffiliated/attila-lendvai/x-3126965] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 14:08:54 attila_lendvai [~attila_le@unaffiliated/attila-lendvai/x-3126965] has joined #scheme 14:10:51 -!- samth_away is now known as samth 14:13:14 -!- replore_ [~replore@EM117-55-65-133.emobile.ad.jp] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 14:20:36 -!- jrslepak [~jrslepak@c-71-233-148-123.hsd1.ma.comcast.net] has quit [Quit: This computer has gone to sleep] 14:29:05 copumpkin [~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin] has joined #scheme 14:36:04 -!- dan64 [~dan64@dannyadam.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 14:36:38 I don't see syntax-case anywhere in psyntax 14:38:29 adu: hehe, it is mapped to some proc 14:39:16 djcb [~user@a88-114-95-13.elisa-laajakaista.fi] has joined #scheme 14:39:32 also, I couldn't use psyntax-gambit, droscheme said "unbound variable eval-core" 14:40:16 droscheme or broscheme? 14:40:27 eval-core is (eval expr (your-global-environment)) 14:40:28 *mario-goulart* trolls 14:40:42 it is what gets passed to your scheme, and expect the result back 14:41:11 adu: look for syntax-case-transformer 14:41:29 robolobster54 [~robolobst@77.241.58.140] has joined #scheme 14:41:29 *qu1j0t3* keeps an eye on mario-goulart 14:41:55 -!- robolobster54 [~robolobst@77.241.58.140] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 14:42:22 i dont think I ever looked at that code ;p I just concentrate on the compiler ;p 14:42:36 langmartin [~user@host-68-169-175-226.WISOLT2.epbfi.com] has joined #scheme 14:42:39 leppie: in http://www.cs.indiana.edu/syntax-case/7.3/psyntax.ss? 14:43:41 my only goal is to learn scheme guts, I can't do that by copy-pasting... 14:43:44 dan64 [~dan64@dannyadam.com] has joined #scheme 14:44:06 if I can't understand the code, then I'm not going to use it 14:44:54 adu: this attitude won't get you very far! 14:44:58 *qu1j0t3* runz 14:45:03 mmalorni [~mmalorni@modemcable026.84-70-69.static.videotron.ca] has joined #scheme 14:45:07 adu: kidding, kidding 14:45:29 it might not get me very far in the engineering sense, but it's gotten me pretty far in the education sense 14:46:06 jrslepak [~jrslepak@nomad.ccs.neu.edu] has joined #scheme 14:46:13 adu: I am looking at later code, from my repo, that version is very old 14:46:42 leppie: at http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~aghuloum? 14:46:56 adu, if you want to learn about that stuff, dont use psyntax, but the me trying to implement macros was NP-HARD initially ;p 14:47:46 guile has a very nice implementation of syntax-case 14:47:55 more readable from what I recall 14:48:35 -!- jrslepak [~jrslepak@nomad.ccs.neu.edu] has quit [Client Quit] 14:49:22 I'll check it out 14:49:40 mmc1 [~michal@178-85-63-71.dynamic.upc.nl] has joined #scheme 14:50:40 it is too complicated for a mere mortal to understand 14:51:10 not really, the concept is easy, the implementation is hard (it seems) 14:51:34 join #clojure 14:51:43 but you do get a lot for 'free', namely all the R6RS syntax and library requirements 14:51:52 mmalorni: no 14:52:30 -!- dnolen [~user@cpe-98-14-92-234.nyc.res.rr.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 14:53:34 gcartier [~gcartier@modemcable026.84-70-69.static.videotron.ca] has joined #scheme 14:55:10 -!- eni [~eni@gob75-5-82-230-88-217.fbx.proxad.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 14:55:25 leppie: I see a lot of hooks in the old version 14:56:09 the one on bazaar is very slim on hooks IIRC 14:56:12 -!- ahinki [~chatzilla@212.99.10.150] has quit [Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.88.2 [Firefox 12.0/20120417165043]] 14:56:41 just get one of the bootstrapped, then you can try the latest version from vicare 14:56:55 s/the/them/ 14:57:10 adu: do you have an interpreter or compiler? 14:57:16 interpreter 14:57:29 this might be slow :( 14:57:46 this being psyntax 14:57:52 right 14:58:27 well, if I can intuit how it works, maybe I can model my implementation on it 14:58:53 shardz [~s@ilo.staticfree.info] has joined #scheme 14:59:01 leppie: you were thinking of racket, i think; guile's implementation is a branch of an old psyntax revision 14:59:03 read oscar waddel's thesis then :) 14:59:41 o 14:59:42 k 14:59:57 dybvig's "beautiful code" article is also ok 15:00:03 btw, I was planning on making a compiler at some point 15:00:04 for an explanation of how things work in syntax-case, you might also look here: http://www.cs.utah.edu/plt/expmodel-6/ 15:00:13 get the entire thing, not just 'chapter 4' (i cant recall now) 15:01:24 -!- woonie [~woonie@nusnet-242-128.dynip.nus.edu.sg] has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 15:02:45 leppie: this is my implementation of syntax-rules: https://github.com/andydude/droscheme/blob/master/types.go#L1246 15:04:23 you should rather write it in scheme :p 15:05:05 perhaps look at Ypsilon, it has it own implementation, but in C++ 15:05:08 but then I'd have to expose environments, matchers, and replacers 15:05:32 it's a system, and it has has to work together :p 15:06:01 eval is powerful if used correctly 15:06:15 have you looked at something like riaxpander? 15:06:42 nope 15:07:14 "it's a system"  are you talking about Ypsilon? or Droscheme? 15:07:23 the simplest I know is MBE (macros by example) 15:07:54 adu: no, i meant the "environments, matchers, and replacers" together 15:09:05 yeah 15:09:41 this GO code burns my eyes. closes bowser tab ;p 15:09:48 lol 15:09:49 lol 15:10:25 Go confuses me 15:10:41 It's like they've looked at the whole idea behind exception handling and gone "Nope, don't like that." 15:10:46 -!- YokYok [~david@vmailbox.org] has quit [Quit: leaving] 15:10:49 looks like Java, hope Google will use that for the next DalvikVM/target 15:11:04 Except that Java has exceptions. (pardon the pun) 15:11:07 LeoNerd: there is exception handling in Go 15:11:08 bumb [joo@79.133.200.37] has joined #scheme 15:11:26 No there isn't. There's the convention that the first MV return value happens to be some error signalling value 15:11:34 It's like we're back in C again, checking if(foo() == -1) { ... } 15:11:37 yay 15:11:52 LeoNerd: yes there is, if you put a recover in a defered function it will stop a panic 15:12:13 *qu1j0t3* wonders if Gogramming is a thing 15:12:14 That's not exception handling 15:12:15 X-Scale [name@2001:470:1f14:135b::2] has joined #scheme 15:12:30 LeoNerd: it is exception handling 15:12:37 -!- bumb [joo@79.133.200.37] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 15:12:38 HRESULT! 15:13:16 adu: is there a lot of 'goto' in GO? 15:13:21 LeoNerd: try { go(); } catch { the_disease(); } finally { avoid_lisp(); } 15:13:44 leppie: these days continue; is the go-to goto, if you know what I mean. :-X 15:13:50 leppie: no, the only place I've seen goto is in the lexer, what _is_ common is "go" 15:13:58 :p 15:14:22 jewel [~jewel@196-210-187-71.dynamic.isadsl.co.za] has joined #scheme 15:14:22 I find once you have named loop controls and proper cleanup/exception handling, uses of goto are extremely rare 15:14:25 leppie: structured programming never happened, ya know :) 15:14:27 leppie: go f(x); is similar to fork() or pthread_* 15:14:27 eni [~eni@gob75-5-82-230-88-217.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #scheme 15:14:29 I don't think I use any in Perl 15:14:35 ooh pthread_* we need moar of that 15:14:44 Yay... coroutines 15:14:46 adu: I dont know that stuff ;p 15:14:53 Yeah, I added them to Perl. It's just Hoare-style CSP, relaly 15:14:54 really 15:15:03 Kinda cute idea. Totally stolen. 15:16:33 bumb [joo@79.133.200.37] has joined #scheme 15:16:53 so what if it's stolen? 15:17:03 Hrm? I meant that in a good way. :) 15:17:07 I stole it too. 15:17:11 at least they give credit 15:17:28 if transitively 15:17:35 Oh, yeah.. 15:17:58 It's just that the CSP things are the only /real/ attractions in Go, and to be honest those are easy enough to add to other languages anyway. At which point I personally really don't see a point in it 15:18:46 -!- bumb [joo@79.133.200.37] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 15:18:46 plan9 and inferno actually claim CSP 15:18:56 Mmmyes... plan9's CSP was quite cute too 15:19:21 and if plan9 is unix 2.0, and inferno is unix 3.0, then Go is unix 4.0 15:19:24 hrm 15:19:30 i thought it was a language 15:19:43 Plan9 had lots of userland C library support 15:19:53 Go is a language, but it's runtime is copy-pasted from inferno source 15:19:54 So it was C, but it added some nice CSPisms to the C library 15:21:24 which schemes have CSP? 15:27:38 -!- confab [~confab@c-71-193-9-153.hsd1.ca.comcast.net] has quit [Quit: Lost terminal] 15:27:38 -!- mmc1 [~michal@178-85-63-71.dynamic.upc.nl] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 15:27:43 j`ey [~joey@unaffiliated/jey/x-00002] has joined #scheme 15:29:13 bumb [joo@79.133.200.37] has joined #scheme 15:30:15 -!- bumb [joo@79.133.200.37] has left #scheme 15:32:23 -!- hkBst [~marijn@gentoo/developer/hkbst] has quit [Quit: Konversation terminated!] 15:34:00 Rafase [a59bcafe@gateway/web/freenode/ip.165.155.202.254] has joined #scheme 15:34:08 Hello 15:35:54 bipt [~bpt@cpe-071-070-253-241.nc.res.rr.com] has joined #scheme 15:36:07 Radium [~carbon@117.203.6.123] has joined #scheme 15:36:14 -!- dca [~user@178.252.127.251] has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 15:36:25 I'm using Dr. Racket with lang R5RS. I'm trying to write a program but I'm new to this language. I'm trying to do list iteration and recursion but I'm havving isues with the loop 15:37:01 dca [~user@178.252.127.251] has joined #scheme 15:37:30 -!- add^_ [~add^_^@m212-152-1-86.cust.tele2.se] has quit [Quit: add^_] 15:37:31 (let p (eqt) gives let: bad syntax (not an identifier and expression for a binding) in: opt 15:37:48 Rafase: if you're new, i first recommend switching to the regular racket language 15:38:24 I can't. I'm taking a Programming Language class and the professor told us to use R5RS 15:38:30 oh, too bad 15:38:34 -!- wollw [~davidsher@75-101-85-170.dsl.dynamic.sonic.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 15:38:39 Rafase, named loop synatax is (let name ((val exp) (val exp) ...)) 15:38:46 what r_r_r said 15:38:46 * and body :) 15:39:37 rudybot: (let loop ((x 5)) (when (positive? x) (displayln x) (loop (sub1 x)))) 15:39:38 *offby1: error: default-load-handler: cannot open input file: "/mnt/racket-5.2.900.1/collects/lang/r6rs.rkt" (No such file or directory; errno=2) 15:39:44 rudybot: init racket 15:39:44 *offby1: your sandbox is ready 15:39:46 rudybot: (let loop ((x 5)) (when (positive? x) (displayln x) (loop (sub1 x)))) 15:39:46 *offby1: ; stdout: "5\n4\n3\n2\n1\n" 15:40:07 rudybot: init r5rs 15:40:07 *offby1: your r5rs sandbox is ready 15:40:09 rudybot: (let loop ((x 5)) (when (positive? x) (displayln x) (loop (sub1 x)))) 15:40:09 *offby1: error: reference to an identifier before its definition: when in module: 'program 15:40:13 bah 15:41:15 (let loop ((x 5)) (if (< 0 x)(begin (display x) (newline) (loop (- x 1))) 15:41:20 rudybot (let loop ((x 5)) (if (< 0 x)(begin (display x) (newline) (loop (- x 1))) 'done)) 15:41:24 gaah 15:41:26 rudybot: (let loop ((x 5)) (if (< 0 x)(begin (display x) (newline) (loop (- x 1))) 'done)) 15:41:27 *offby1: ; Value: done 15:41:28 *offby1: ; stdout: "5\n4\n3\n2\n1\n" 15:41:35 bad Bad BAD error reporting 15:42:05 I'm going to try it. Pretty much I'm trying to a the first element of a list check against a whole list. 15:42:06 -!- realitygrill [~realitygr@adsl-76-226-129-229.dsl.sfldmi.sbcglobal.net] has quit [Quit: Computer has gone to sleep] 15:48:36 confab [~confab@c-71-193-9-153.hsd1.ca.comcast.net] has joined #scheme 15:49:39 im sad 15:49:42 I read that as 15:49:46 rubybot :( 15:50:28 mmc1 [~michal@178-85-63-71.dynamic.upc.nl] has joined #scheme 15:50:52 I think I got it 15:51:24 I was thinking I could do somethign along the lines for i in leght x type of thing 15:53:08 -!- Radium [~carbon@117.203.6.123] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 15:56:24 jao [~user@160.Red-81-39-169.dynamicIP.rima-tde.net] has joined #scheme 15:56:38 -!- jao [~user@160.Red-81-39-169.dynamicIP.rima-tde.net] has quit [Changing host] 15:56:38 jao [~user@pdpc/supporter/professional/jao] has joined #scheme 16:05:38 realitygrill [~realitygr@thewall.novi.lib.mi.us] has joined #scheme 16:06:21 -!- copumpkin [~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin] has quit [Quit: Computer has gone to sleep.] 16:07:03 -!- dca [~user@178.252.127.251] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 16:07:27 dca [~user@178.252.127.251] has joined #scheme 16:09:32 -!- MichaelRaskin [~MichaelRa@195.178.216.22] has left #scheme 16:12:20 tuubow [~adityavit@c-69-136-105-164.hsd1.nj.comcast.net] has joined #scheme 16:15:18 chturne [~chturne@2.28.99.43] has joined #scheme 16:18:30 kk` [~kk@unaffiliated/kk/x-5380134] has joined #scheme 16:19:30 RITRedbeard [RITReadbea@t410.student.rit.edu] has joined #scheme 16:21:50 bfgun [~b_fin_g@r190-135-54-14.dialup.adsl.anteldata.net.uy] has joined #scheme 16:26:45 -!- gcartier [~gcartier@modemcable026.84-70-69.static.videotron.ca] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 16:32:42 toekutr [~user@50-0-51-244.dsl.static.sonic.net] has joined #scheme 16:36:43 jonrafkind [~jon@racket/jonrafkind] has joined #scheme 17:02:40 -!- r_r_r [~chatzilla@77.127.36.4] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 17:05:25 -!- jcowan [~John@mail.digitalkingdom.org] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 17:06:00 r_r_r [~chatzilla@77.127.36.4] has joined #scheme 17:07:08 -!- bipt [~bpt@cpe-071-070-253-241.nc.res.rr.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 17:07:28 -!- r_r_r [~chatzilla@77.127.36.4] has quit [Client Quit] 17:16:08 ijp [~user@host31-53-169-229.range31-53.btcentralplus.com] has joined #scheme 17:18:17 *leppie* welcomes ijp back in his 1st form ;p 17:18:25 -!- chturne [~chturne@2.28.99.43] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 17:20:16 -!- ijp is now known as ijp```````` 17:20:22 better? :P 17:20:25 -!- ijp```````` is now known as ijp 17:20:58 dunno how you can keep your balance, way up there on that tottering tower of ticks 17:21:28 he's ... ticked off 17:21:46 offby1: the trick is to build them up jenga-like, rather than end-to-e d 17:22:15 sounds unbalanced 17:23:29 rudybot: network issues + not paying attention to IRC = lots of ticks 17:23:29 ijp: i just hope they weren't lyme ticks 17:23:46 thankfully not 17:25:15 kk`: hi. 17:28:23 kudkudyak [~user@94.72.146.236] has joined #scheme 17:28:41 -!- kudkudyak [~user@94.72.146.236] has quit [Client Quit] 17:32:56 amgarchIn9 [~amgarchin@p4FD6069B.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #scheme 17:48:39 githogori [~githogori@c-50-131-15-16.hsd1.ca.comcast.net] has joined #scheme 17:50:01 turbofail [~user@c-24-5-89-172.hsd1.ca.comcast.net] has joined #scheme 17:51:39 MichaelRaskin [~MichaelRa@3ad50e34.broker.freenet6.net] has joined #scheme 17:54:51 -!- adu [~ajr@pool-173-66-11-244.washdc.fios.verizon.net] has quit [Quit: adu] 17:57:05 -!- attila_lendvai [~attila_le@unaffiliated/attila-lendvai/x-3126965] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 18:00:40 -!- jewel [~jewel@196-210-187-71.dynamic.isadsl.co.za] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 18:08:14 -!- githogori [~githogori@c-50-131-15-16.hsd1.ca.comcast.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 18:08:27 -!- realitygrill [~realitygr@thewall.novi.lib.mi.us] has quit [Quit: Computer has gone to sleep] 18:09:11 -!- Rafase [a59bcafe@gateway/web/freenode/ip.165.155.202.254] has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 18:12:02 githogori [~githogori@c-50-131-15-16.hsd1.ca.comcast.net] has joined #scheme 18:27:08 nowhereman [~pierre@AStrasbourg-551-1-140-93.w90-26.abo.wanadoo.fr] has joined #scheme 18:29:48 -!- wbooze [~levgue@xdsl-87-79-192-121.netcologne.de] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 18:29:57 -!- homie [~levgue@xdsl-87-79-192-121.netcologne.de] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 18:30:10 -!- nowhere_man [~pierre@AStrasbourg-551-1-20-97.w86-213.abo.wanadoo.fr] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 18:30:35 wbooze` [~levgue@xdsl-78-35-172-206.netcologne.de] has joined #scheme 18:31:11 homie` [~levgue@xdsl-78-35-172-206.netcologne.de] has joined #scheme 18:43:45 realitygrill [~realitygr@c-68-41-30-50.hsd1.mi.comcast.net] has joined #scheme 18:50:15 -!- tuubow [~adityavit@c-69-136-105-164.hsd1.nj.comcast.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 18:50:31 -!- eli [~eli@racket/eli] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 18:53:54 -!- wingo [~wingo@20.pool85-50-205.dynamic.orange.es] has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 19:02:36 eli [~eli@racket/eli] has joined #scheme 19:06:10 snizzo [~Claudio@176.246.88.62] has joined #scheme 19:15:38 -!- sawjig [~sawjig@gateway/tor-sasl/sawjig] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 19:18:11 sawjig [~sawjig@gateway/tor-sasl/sawjig] has joined #scheme 19:21:38 -!- snizzo [~Claudio@176.246.88.62] has quit [Quit: No Ping reply in 180 seconds.] 19:22:00 snizzo [~Claudio@176.246.88.62] has joined #scheme 19:23:45 wollw [~davidsher@75-101-85-170.dsl.dynamic.sonic.net] has joined #scheme 19:34:00 -!- wollw [~davidsher@75-101-85-170.dsl.dynamic.sonic.net] has quit [Quit: Lost terminal] 19:34:21 -!- snizzo [~Claudio@176.246.88.62] has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 19:35:09 wollw [~davidsher@75-101-85-170.dsl.dynamic.sonic.net] has joined #scheme 19:36:40 -!- FACEFOX [~facefox@pool-74-111-197-200.lsanca.fios.verizon.net] has quit [Quit: http://www.facefox.com] 19:39:17 FACEFOX [~facefox@pool-74-111-197-200.lsanca.fios.verizon.net] has joined #scheme 19:39:18 -!- FACEFOX [~facefox@pool-74-111-197-200.lsanca.fios.verizon.net] has quit [Max SendQ exceeded] 19:39:34 Why does MIT/GNU Scheme suck so badly? 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20:59:26 in a function or global? 20:59:44 What should I use to share my code? pastebin? 21:00:03 Rafase: http://paste.pocoo.org e.g. 21:00:29 or just see the toic 21:00:46 paste.lisp.org/new/scheme 21:02:50 http://paste.pocoo.org/show/587753/ 21:03:38 what are you tyring to do? 21:03:52 I'm trying to make a program that will take for input a calculation, something like (* 3 4) 21:03:55 chkopt is a function and not a list 21:04:08 (car function) doesnt make sense 21:04:56 Then it will check that it is in prefix notation by checking to see if the first element is an aritmetic operation then check that the next two elements are atom and that there is not more than two 21:05:15 (define (name variables) ...) is the same as (define name (lambda (variables) ...)) 21:05:16 im still doing thing part by part 21:07:07 so userinput should look like '+ 1 2' ? 21:07:44 ( + 1 2) 21:07:47 but with (read) it wouldnt matter 21:08:08 I have to make it return the result of the calculation at the end if everythignis ok 21:09:08 The problem is that opt does not seem to be used further down 21:09:53 then use it 21:09:54 RageOfThou [~RageOfTho@users-55-233.vinet.ba] has joined #scheme 21:10:07 I dont seem to be getting the right way to do it 21:10:36 I was thinking about using car to get the first element to then compare it with position 0 of the input form (data) 21:11:10 then if is not the same to use recursion and get the next value from the opt 21:11:26 check out the member? function 21:11:30 so if * is not + to check for the next symbol on the list 21:12:07 -!- Quadrescence [~quad@unaffiliated/quadrescence] has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 21:12:16 somethign like (member? ) 21:12:50 yeah 21:13:29 -!- MrFahrenheit [~RageOfTho@users-55-233.vinet.ba] has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 21:13:31 oh I could just use it to check if the element in position 0 from the (data) is in the opt list 21:13:42 -!- djcb [~user@a88-114-95-13.elisa-laajakaista.fi] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 21:14:11 wjhy does your function take arguments? 21:14:59 if would make more sense to have it in the form (define (parse exp) (define op '(+ - * ...)) (...)) and then call it with (parse (read)) 21:16:57 dzhus [~dzhus@128-72-113-204.broadband.corbina.ru] has joined #scheme 21:17:04 Quadrescence [~quad@unaffiliated/quadrescence] has joined #scheme 21:17:56 -!- Rafase [94548c36@gateway/web/freenode/ip.148.84.140.54] has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 21:21:00 kk`` [~kk@77.107.164.131] has joined #scheme 21:22:35 add^_ [~add^_^@m212-152-1-86.cust.tele2.se] has joined #scheme 21:23:11 meh he left 21:23:54 -!- kk` [~kk@unaffiliated/kk/x-5380134] has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 21:26:49 bipt [~bpt@cpe-173-095-170-102.nc.res.rr.com] has joined #scheme 21:29:31 MrFahrenheit [~RageOfTho@users-55-233.vinet.ba] has joined #scheme 21:30:45 -!- kk`` [~kk@77.107.164.131] has quit [Quit: WeeChat 0.3.7] 21:31:22 -!- RageOfThou [~RageOfTho@users-55-233.vinet.ba] has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 21:33:26 -!- mmc1 [~michal@178-85-63-71.dynamic.upc.nl] has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 21:37:31 -!- choas [~lars@p5795C0B1.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 21:40:06 -!- mmalorni [~mmalorni@modemcable026.84-70-69.static.videotron.ca] has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 21:44:05 wollw [~davidsher@75-101-85-170.dsl.dynamic.sonic.net] has joined #scheme 21:50:26 -!- alexei is now known as amgarchIn9 21:51:57 -!- langmartin [~user@host-68-169-175-226.WISOLT2.epbfi.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 21:52:08 -!- wingo [~wingo@90.164.198.39] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 21:52:23 -!- mgsk is now known as xXxMGSKxXx 22:04:23 -!- j`ey [~joey@unaffiliated/jey/x-00002] has left #scheme 22:04:28 -!- kuribas [~user@94-227-36-245.access.telenet.be] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 22:08:23 -!- soveran [~soveran@186.19.214.247] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 22:18:23 -!- tupi [~david@139.82.89.24] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 22:18:38 -!- amgarchIn9 [~amgarchin@p4FD6069B.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [Read error: Operation timed out] 22:20:15 -!- kniu [~kniu@pool-72-77-60-232.pitbpa.east.verizon.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 22:21:22 -!- add^_ [~add^_^@m212-152-1-86.cust.tele2.se] has quit [Quit: add^_] 22:29:34 amgarchIn9 [~amgarchin@p4FD6069B.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #scheme 22:39:58 airolson [~airolson@CPE00222d55a738-CM00222d55a735.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com] has joined #scheme 22:49:21 -!- airolson [~airolson@CPE00222d55a738-CM00222d55a735.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com] has quit [] 22:52:35 -!- dca [~user@178.252.127.251] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 22:53:11 dca [~user@178.252.127.251] has joined #scheme 23:04:35 tuubow [~adityavit@c-69-136-105-164.hsd1.nj.comcast.net] has joined #scheme 23:43:05 -!- amgarchIn9 [~amgarchin@p4FD6069B.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 23:47:10 attila_lendvai [~attila_le@188-143-64-50.pool.digikabel.hu] has joined #scheme 23:47:11 -!- attila_lendvai [~attila_le@188-143-64-50.pool.digikabel.hu] has quit [Changing host] 23:47:11 attila_lendvai [~attila_le@unaffiliated/attila-lendvai/x-3126965] has joined #scheme