00:16:33 -!- kvda [~kvda@202.58.240.18] has quit [Quit: x__x] 00:18:04 Is it the case that neither Scheme nor Lisp has a prefix- or suffix-convention for cardinatily? 00:18:32 Given `headers', for instance, I'd like to define `|headers|' as `(length headers)'; but that's awkward. 00:18:53 Do people use e.g. `num-headers', `headers-n' or some permutation thereof. 00:19:14 something like that 00:20:27 Damn; would someone had established something as elegant as e.g. `!' or `?'. 00:20:42 (For mutation, predication, &c.) 00:20:49 nows your chance to shine 00:20:53 Heh. 00:20:57 I'm sure unicode has something appropriate :) 00:21:03 ijp: Holy shit. 00:22:19 Euthydemus [~euthydemu@unaffiliated/euthydemus] has joined #scheme 00:22:46 klutometis: if you're not keen on | then maybe a : on either side would do 00:23:01 (define :v: (vector-length v)) 00:23:02 Besides ||, though, there doesn't seem to be a general mathematical symbol for cardinality (except special cases like aleph-null and null). 00:23:07 ijp: That's interesting. 00:23:58 # would work if that wasn't already _extremely_ overloaded 00:25:01 -!- Euthydemus` [~euthydemu@unaffiliated/euthydemus] has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 00:27:11 Chicken actually let's me do e.g. `(define \|headers\| (length headers))', but I don't think that's R5RS. 00:28:31 it's pretty common for | to be used for delimiting symbols 00:30:12 klutometis: ŠvŠ would be even closer than :v:, at the expense of being slightly more difficult to type 00:30:46 replore [~replore@203.152.213.161.static.zoot.jp] has joined #scheme 00:31:57 -!- copumpkin [~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin] has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 00:32:25 copumpkin [~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin] has joined #scheme 00:37:48 suggestions if you are willing to go beyond ascii: v v v v v v 00:38:14 jhemann_ [~Jason@adsl-99-50-224-125.dsl.bltnin.sbcglobal.net] has joined #scheme 00:38:45 I quite like v 00:40:32 ijp: Do you mind lisp-pasting? I still haven't coerced IRSSI to go beyond ascii. 00:41:14 -!- Saeren_ is now known as Saeren 00:41:48 -!- jhemann__ [~Jason@adsl-99-137-200-210.dsl.bltnin.sbcglobal.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 00:42:29 -!- masm [~masm@bl18-45-66.dsl.telepac.pt] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 00:44:16 -!- wollw [~davidsher@75-101-85-170.dsl.dynamic.sonic.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 00:44:53 wollw [~davidsher@75-101-85-170.dsl.dynamic.sonic.net] has joined #scheme 00:45:16 klutometis: http://paste.lisp.org/display/129111 00:45:31 there was another one, but I had misinterpreted it because of my font 00:51:05 rudybot: say hi to klutometis 00:51:05 *offby1: Um, what do you mean by that? :-) We're making progress, logging a lot of issues, and we're taking a sample voting of stuff to get a quick run down on the 67+ issues in the tracker right now. 00:51:13 *offby1* backs away slowly 00:51:28 rudybot: 'to'? really? 00:51:28 ijp: another eshell tweak I really love: (defun eshell/cds () (eshell/cd (locate-dominating-file default-directory "src"))) 00:52:45 ijp: no, "klutometis". There is, or was, a bug with triggering on the speaker's name or something 00:53:16 -!- dzhus [~sphinx@128.72.113.204] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 00:54:11 offby1: With incubot, I erroneously counted the name before purging it. 00:54:45 ijp: Those are pretty good; angle brackets and sharp are the only ones that render in the console or browser, though. 00:54:56 Installing DejaVu mono to see if that fixes anything. 00:55:02 The angles look pretty good, though. 00:55:31 I found theme by looking through the help for the emacs tex input method 00:56:12 klutometis: great minds etc 00:56:41 ijp: dunno if you knew, but rudybot's blathering is entire inspired by klutometis' "incubot" 00:56:47 s/entire/entirely/ 00:56:58 s/inspired by/ripped off from/ 00:57:17 yes, you told me when I asked why he bowed to klutometis 00:57:35 rudybot: nice bowing btw 00:57:35 ijp: wasn't there something about him not bowing sufficiently low in an earlier televised apology? 00:57:36 ah 00:57:56 rudybot: maybe you should give him lessons 00:57:57 ijp: and though I have been a windows hater , win 7 seems that Mircrosoft finally learns it lessons 00:59:39 rudybot: I once thought I was Jim Morrison's illegitimate son; but then I realized he died too early. 00:59:39 klutometis: A recent poll in the New York Times named Toni Morrison's Beloved as the greatest work of American fiction in the past 25 years. 00:59:56 !! 01:00:46 ijp: Those are some pretty esoteric glyphs; that, or you must have a legitimate font. I can only get sharp/angle to render. 01:00:58 That's ok, though: angle-brackets are pretty nice, actually. 01:08:12 tupi [~david@189.119.195.28] has joined #scheme 01:12:16 -!- Myk267 [~myk@adsl-71-149-249-146.dsl.mtry01.sbcglobal.net] has quit [Quit: Myk267] 01:12:50 Myk267 [~myk@adsl-71-149-249-146.dsl.mtry01.sbcglobal.net] has joined #scheme 01:13:17 ijp: Broken bar, on the other hand, isn't bad; either. 01:14:13 realitygrill [~realitygr@76.226.220.102] has joined #scheme 01:19:16 kvda [~kvda@202.58.240.18] has joined #scheme 01:27:20 -!- edgar-rft [~user@HSI-KBW-078-043-123-191.hsi4.kabel-badenwuerttemberg.de] has quit [Quit: ERC Version 5.3 (IRC client for Emacs)] 01:33:54 Whitesqu_ [~notwhites@94.242.150.102] has joined #scheme 01:36:43 -!- Khisanth [~Khisanth@50.14.244.111] has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 01:37:56 -!- Whitesquall [~notwhites@94.242.145.107] has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 01:39:55 -!- Whitesqu_ [~notwhites@94.242.150.102] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 01:39:59 kilimanjaro [~kilimanja@ip70-162-88-143.ph.ph.cox.net] has joined #scheme 01:39:59 -!- kilimanjaro [~kilimanja@ip70-162-88-143.ph.ph.cox.net] has quit [Changing host] 01:39:59 kilimanjaro [~kilimanja@unaffiliated/kilimanjaro] has joined #scheme 01:43:25 ngx2 [~ng@c-98-211-222-243.hsd1.fl.comcast.net] has joined #scheme 01:49:54 Khisanth [~Khisanth@50.14.244.111] has joined #scheme 01:52:59 -!- acarrico [~acarrico@pppoe-68-142-57-27.gmavt.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 02:00:41 adu [~ajr@pool-173-66-11-244.washdc.fios.verizon.net] has joined #scheme 02:19:52 acarrico [~acarrico@pppoe-68-142-57-27.gmavt.net] has joined #scheme 02:28:10 omg, I think my implementation of syntax-rules is working 02:28:24 -!- tupi [~david@189.119.195.28] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 02:28:54 *adu* is so excited 02:29:00 nice 02:32:26 ngx2: have I told you about my scheme yet? 02:33:15 nope 02:33:22 what you doing? 02:33:44 it's called Droscheme, and I'm writing it in Go 02:35:16 nice 02:35:30 i'd like to learn go eventually 02:35:57 tuubow_ [~adityavit@c-69-136-105-164.hsd1.nj.comcast.net] has joined #scheme 02:36:15 the coolest things in Go are interfaces and channels 02:36:37 so far I haven't done much with channels, because it's impossible to implement call/cc with them 02:36:52 but it's possible to implement call/ec with channels 02:37:44 i dont know a ton about scheme, novice level, implemented gnu guile into some chatbot i been writing 02:37:56 i see 02:37:57 guile is scheme based 02:38:13 want to learn scheme real good though, all i really know is C and some asm 02:38:41 I thought I knew scheme before I started writing my own interpreter 02:39:03 ya that must be fun 02:39:08 but there are lots of things I've learned that I don't think I would have otherwise 02:39:54 for example, I thought eq? and eqv? where definitionally different than equal? 02:40:27 francisl [~flavoie@bas1-montreal48-1176343411.dsl.bell.ca] has joined #scheme 02:40:52 -!- francisl [~flavoie@bas1-montreal48-1176343411.dsl.bell.ca] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 02:41:21 francisl [~flavoie@bas1-montreal48-1176343411.dsl.bell.ca] has joined #scheme 02:42:24 eq/eqv are different slightly right 02:42:47 but they're different in the sense that their more vauge, and allot implementation differences 02:43:05 it's entirely standard compliant to make all of them behave like equal? 02:43:06 ngx2: same except for numbers and characters IIRC 02:43:22 ya ijp 02:43:28 oh right, except for numbers 02:44:55 anyways, I'm still learning 02:45:03 cool 02:45:56 ngx2: have you read SICP? 02:46:10 or HTDP? 02:46:44 rudybot: eval (list (eqv? (cons #f #f) (cons #f #f)) (equal? (cons #f #f) (cons #f #f))) 02:46:45 ijp: your sandbox is ready 02:46:45 ijp: ; Value: (#f #t) 02:46:50 adu: counterexample ^^ 02:46:59 machine5 [machine1@pool-74-111-197-200.lsanca.fios.verizon.net] has joined #scheme 02:47:21 nope i plan to read SICP though 02:48:02 cataska_ [~cataska@210.64.6.233] has joined #scheme 02:49:04 ijp: eqv? is only required to return #f according to the standard if "applying the same accessor to both yields results for which eqv? returns #f" 02:50:11 -!- arcfide [~arcfide@c-98-223-204-153.hsd1.in.comcast.net] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 02:50:15 and I quote "the eqv? procedure returns #t if: ... obj1 and obj2 are pairs, vectors, or strings that denote the same locations in the store" 02:50:17 ijp: eqv? is only required to return #t for pairs "that refer to the same locations" 02:50:30 and cons is required to return a new location IIRC 02:51:11 ijp: your example isn't covered by either of those conditions 02:51:44 cons "the pair is guaranteed to be different (in the sense of eqv?) from every existing object" 02:52:13 homie`` [~levgue@xdsl-78-35-181-99.netcologne.de] has joined #scheme 02:52:53 -!- machine1 [machine1@pool-74-111-197-200.lsanca.fios.verizon.net] has quit [*.net *.split] 02:52:53 -!- Sune [~KV44HaV@x1-6-e0-46-9a-1f-02-a2.k370.webspeed.dk] has quit [*.net *.split] 02:52:53 -!- cataska [~cataska@210.64.6.233] has quit [*.net *.split] 02:52:55 equal? : recursively compares the contents of pairs, vectors and strings, applying eqv? on other objects such as number or symbols. 02:53:31 adu: you will note that the case (eqv? (cons 1 2) (cons 1 2)) is explicitly mentioned as #f in the standard 02:53:32 Euthydemus` [~euthydemu@unaffiliated/euthydemus] has joined #scheme 02:53:56 -!- copumpkin [~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin] has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 02:54:08 -!- realitygrill [~realitygr@76.226.220.102] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 02:54:13 in short eq? and eqv? can legitimately be the same procedure, but eqv? and equal? cannot be 02:54:26 -!- homie` [~levgue@xdsl-78-35-141-69.netcologne.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 02:54:26 copumpkin [~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin] has joined #scheme 02:54:44 not only is this in the standard, it is assumed in a lot of scheme code 02:55:01 eqv? is really hard to implement in Go 02:55:15 -!- machine5 [machine1@pool-74-111-197-200.lsanca.fios.verizon.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 02:55:24 -!- FACEFOX-DOT-COM [~gfdffdfd@pool-74-111-197-200.lsanca.fios.verizon.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 02:55:24 I never said it was easy or hard; I'm just saying the two are not the same 02:55:39 -!- FACEFOX [~facefox@pool-74-111-197-200.lsanca.fios.verizon.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 02:55:59 and if your equality functions behave differently, this should be noted 02:56:04 realitygrill [~realitygr@76.226.205.217] has joined #scheme 02:56:12 -!- Euthydemus [~euthydemu@unaffiliated/euthydemus] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 02:57:57 Cristi__ [Cristi@94.177.108.25] has joined #scheme 02:58:10 FACEFOX-DOT-COM [~gfdffdfd@pool-74-111-197-200.lsanca.fios.verizon.net] has joined #scheme 02:59:50 -!- homie`` [~levgue@xdsl-78-35-181-99.netcologne.de] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 03:00:52 ijp: "The eqv? procedure returns #f if  obj1 and obj2 are pairs  that refer to distinct locations" 03:00:58 I must have missed that part 03:01:26 homie`` [~levgue@xdsl-78-35-181-99.netcologne.de] has joined #scheme 03:02:56 FACEFOX [~facefox@pool-74-111-197-200.lsanca.fios.verizon.net] has joined #scheme 03:05:22 machine1 [machine1@pool-74-111-197-200.lsanca.fios.verizon.net] has joined #scheme 03:06:34 -!- CampinSam [~Sam@24-176-98-217.dhcp.jcsn.tn.charter.com] has quit [Quit: leaving] 03:17:46 question: to set variables that are passed as values i need macros right? i was trying to make a conditional set! of a variable and ran into the problem, converted the function into a macro and worked. is this the only way to do it? 03:18:52 right, the symbol will otherwise be evaluated. 03:19:04 if your semantics are like SET! then you must use a macro. 03:19:12 -!- kvda [~kvda@202.58.240.18] has quit [Quit: x__x] 03:20:49 drumond19 [~drumond19@186.214.52.194] has joined #scheme 03:21:24 -!- MrFahrenheit [~RageOfTho@users-55-233.vinet.ba] has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 03:21:27 cool ty 03:21:49 -!- drumond19 [~drumond19@186.214.52.194] has quit [Quit: drumond19] 03:22:10 this is something covered in Quadrescence's macro challenges :) 03:23:13 i know, the moment i solved it i remembered the set-if 03:23:37 i thought after that to make a macro to "setify" 03:23:47 shouldn't be too hard 03:23:57 or maybe yes, a 'macro that builds macros' 03:24:13 wouldn't add much anyway 03:25:14 -!- bipt [~bpt@cpe-071-070-253-241.nc.res.rr.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 03:27:02 drumond19 [~drumond19@186.214.52.194] has joined #scheme 03:32:54 bfig: that reminds me of the CL concept of locatives for some reason... 03:32:58 bfig: SETF 03:33:11 qu1j0t3, what's that? 03:33:25 generalised setters of a sort 03:33:42 how do they generalize? 03:33:46 Quadrescence would be happy to give you the executive summary. I don't use CL, am only familiar with it from reading about it. 03:33:59 bfig: there's a bit in Norvig PAIP's intro to lisp about them. 03:34:22 bfig: probably not as general as you want, but just was reminded of them. 03:36:42 wow that spec is hideous, i keep hopping from term to term 03:37:05 -!- MichaelRaskin [~MichaelRa@3ad50e34.broker.freenet6.net] has left #scheme 03:38:06 bfig: i think SETF should lead you to the stuff i mean. 03:38:34 jlongster [~user@pool-108-4-74-122.rcmdva.fios.verizon.net] has joined #scheme 03:39:00 i didn't understand what it does :| 03:39:13 do you have a copy of PAIP? 03:42:08 paste as into peepers? 03:43:56 Preliminary Anglophone International Patronage 03:45:29 pauper's assistant iliadic personificators 03:45:52 http://books.google.ca/books?id=X4mhySvjqUAC&q=setf#v=snippet&q=setf&f=false 03:45:53 http://tinyurl.com/7ehblpr 03:46:17 bipt [~bpt@cpe-071-070-253-241.nc.res.rr.com] has joined #scheme 03:47:30 kvda [~kvda@202.58.240.18] has joined #scheme 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has joined #scheme 16:28:41 how can I use scheme48 in geiser? 16:29:50 you can't. 16:29:57 write a scheme48 backend for it 16:29:58 geiser only works with racket and guile, as far as I know. 16:30:13 or petition jao to do it 16:31:48 hmm, I'll go with quack then 16:31:50 thanks 16:32:12 I have only one chapter left of SICP :) 16:33:04 just make sure you aren't skipping too many exercises 16:33:54 yep, I've done almost all exercises in chapters [1-4] 16:36:43 -!- MontgoDB [~mmontgome@cpe-66-69-6-73.satx.res.rr.com] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 16:37:04 MontgoDB [~mmontgome@cpe-66-69-6-73.satx.res.rr.com] has joined #scheme 16:38:14 jewel [~jewel@196-209-224-216.dynamic.isadsl.co.za] has joined #scheme 16:48:10 djcb` [~user@a88-114-95-13.elisa-laajakaista.fi] has joined #scheme 16:49:44 -!- djcb [~user@a88-114-95-13.elisa-laajakaista.fi] has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 16:50:31 -!- kpal [~kpal@janus-nat-128-240-225-120.ncl.ac.uk] has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 16:52:37 -!- mmc1 [~michal@sams-office-nat.tomtomgroup.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 16:52:38 -!- jhemann__ [~Jason@adsl-99-186-238-243.dsl.bltnin.sbcglobal.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 16:54:35 -!- mmc [~michal@sams-office-nat.tomtomgroup.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 16:57:44 osa1: nice 17:00:19 turbofail [~user@99-121-57-65.lightspeed.sntcca.sbcglobal.net] has joined #scheme 17:00:25 -!- tuubow_ [~adityavit@c-69-136-105-164.hsd1.nj.comcast.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 17:07:58 -!- kniu [~kniu@pool-72-77-60-232.pitbpa.east.verizon.net] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 17:08:48 hello. i'm sad, i can't get things to work. when i started my computer life with QBASIC, sound and graphics worked right out of the box. now when im in love with scheme, i just cant seem to get it to work! 17:09:10 really. 17:10:25 im trying to follow tutorials on how to use Gambit in addition with SDL to do simple game coding, but I always get copiler errors or cant get my wingm-thing to find gcc or something. i try to follow tutorials but i never seem to get past the initial pain of setting up my coding environment... 17:11:14 any ideas for simple tools? i think _why (the lucky stiff dude from ruby community) was right in trying to set up a system that worked out of the box and could be used by children 17:11:44 kaiku_: yes. Start to write simple programs, with text I/O, instead of graphic programs, to learn the language. 17:11:52 kaiku_: there's no point in trying to run if you can't walk. 17:12:56 kaiku_: try: How to Design Programs -- An Introduction to Computing and Programming http://www.htdp.org/2003-09-26/Book/ 17:12:58 i already have the basics with drscheme, i do projecteuler-problems just fine with the REPL, but whenever i try to access any hardware past simple math-puzzles, i run into a wall of errors 17:13:29 Unfortunately, I don't know sdl in scheme or gambit. 17:13:40 i've been working trough half of SICP, and think im quite ok with scheme, just not the hardware-accessing coding environments 17:13:44 MontgoDB1 [~mmontgome@cpe-66-69-6-73.satx.res.rr.com] has joined #scheme 17:14:02 well, ya gotta stop thinking of it in terms of 'hardware' :D 17:14:15 there's a LOT of layers in between 17:14:26 mm, thats why im trying SDL, to abstact the gritty stuff away 17:14:43 but i cant get the apis and libraries and compilers to work 17:15:06 kaiku_: #lispgames know about it, but IIRC they're using CL, not scheme. 17:16:44 kaiku_: if you want games, try the 2htdp/image and 2htdp/universe libraries. 17:17:06 kaiku_: also this library to give you some building blocks: http://pre.racket-lang.org/docs/html/teachpack/2htdpPlanet_Cute_Images.html 17:17:07 http://tinyurl.com/75pxz32 17:17:34 asumu: thanks, will check them out. i was so dissapointed when MIT's SICP-image library didn't work ;( 17:17:36 -!- MontgoDB [~mmontgome@cpe-66-69-6-73.satx.res.rr.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 17:17:39 MontgoDB2 [~mmontgome@cpe-66-69-6-73.satx.res.rr.com] has joined #scheme 17:18:17 -!- MontgoDB1 [~mmontgome@cpe-66-69-6-73.satx.res.rr.com] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 17:18:38 kaiku_: in DrRacket? There is a PlaneT package for that. 17:18:58 yeah, but for some reason or other i didn't get it to work 17:19:13 perhaps because im on windows 17:19:41 Oh, huh. Well if you can figure it out, submit a bug report. 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*offby1: ; Value: "Welcome to Racket v5.2.900.1.\n" 21:15:37 it gives #f in chibi 21:16:46 I wouldn't be surprised if that were undefined 21:17:10 offby1: it's specified very clearly in R6RS 21:17:21 ah, but rudybot isn't running r6rs 21:17:47 hence my curiousity 21:17:49 rudybot: (= +nan.0 +nan.0) 21:17:49 ijp: ; Value: #f 21:18:16 rudybot: (< +nan.0 +nan.0) 21:18:17 adu: your sandbox is ready 21:18:17 adu: ; Value: #f 21:18:25 that gives #t in chibi 21:18:46 again, R6RS clearly specifies it must give #f 21:19:14 I don't think foof gives a damn about that 21:19:28 unless they also decide to do it in r7rs 21:21:08 -!- francisl [~flavoie@199.84.164.114] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 21:21:13 right, I think chibi is mainly for R7RS 21:23:17 -!- es [estevocast@nat/hackerschool.com/x-vxyjycwxepekoawd] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 21:24:03 es [estevocast@nat/hackerschool.com/x-flzftoldozxatnfr] has joined #scheme 21:32:11 -!- mmalorni 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