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It's fine engineering 03:31:22 fsbot on #emacs has even been known to use nuclear weapons 03:31:56 and worse yet, visual studio enterprise edition 03:32:22 gabot: slap devstudio 03:32:22 *gabot* slaps devstudio 03:32:37 rudybot: have you signed the convention on weapons of mass refactoring? 03:32:37 ijp: amongst our chief weapons are elisp, parentheses, and an almost fanatical devotion to rms 03:32:50 gabot: slap tick 03:32:50 *gabot* slaps tick 03:36:08 woonie [~woonie@nusnet-224-220.dynip.nus.edu.sg] has joined #scheme 03:36:35 :) 03:38:31 gabot: slap foobar 03:38:31 *gabot* slaps foobar 03:51:03 -!- soveran [~soveran@186.19.214.247] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 03:52:02 -!- woonie [~woonie@nusnet-224-220.dynip.nus.edu.sg] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 03:56:40 woonie [~woonie@nusnet-224-220.dynip.nus.edu.sg] has joined #scheme 04:03:24 -!- woonie [~woonie@nusnet-224-220.dynip.nus.edu.sg] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 04:07:20 MichaelRaskin [~MichaelRa@3ad50e34.broker.freenet6.net] has joined #scheme 04:08:27 eli: neat 04:10:38 *offby1* decries violence 04:13:03 confab [~win7@public-nat2.arc.losrios.edu] has joined #scheme 04:13:54 -!- pranq [pranq@unaffiliated/contempt] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 04:16:00 pranq [pranq@unaffiliated/contempt] has joined #scheme 04:19:21 -!- attila_lendvai [~attila_le@unaffiliated/attila-lendvai/x-3126965] has quit [Disconnected by services] 04:19:21 attila_lendvai1 [~attila_le@176.222.149.213] has joined #scheme 04:19:23 -!- attila_lendvai1 is now known as attila_lendvai 04:19:24 -!- attila_lendvai [~attila_le@176.222.149.213] has quit [Changing host] 04:19:24 attila_lendvai [~attila_le@unaffiliated/attila-lendvai/x-3126965] has joined #scheme 04:20:36 confab_ [~win7@public-nat2.arc.losrios.edu] has joined #scheme 04:21:24 -!- confab [~win7@public-nat2.arc.losrios.edu] has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 04:21:41 woonie2 [~woonie@nusnet-224-220.dynip.nus.edu.sg] has joined #scheme 04:21:51 What do you think the past tense of `split' should be? 04:22:05 I just found myself writing `splat' because it sounded right. 04:22:07 splat? 04:22:11 Split. 04:22:13 I was about to say "splat". 04:22:16 I think it's ... 04:22:26 damn you jcowan; it was gonna be unanimous 04:22:26 I asked `should be', not `is', jcowan. 04:22:28 I agree with jcowan. 04:22:40 offby1: Very factionated now. :-P 04:22:46 Riastradh: really, what else did you expect? 04:22:49 *ijp* circles the wagons 04:23:01 damned splitters! 04:23:14 *offby1* lobs pistachio shells at the f***ing People's Front of Judea 04:24:26 bet, bid, burst, cost, cut, fit, hit, hurt, let, put, quit, rid, set, shed, shut, slit, split, spread, thrust, wed, and wet (and their compounds) are the invariant verbs of English 04:24:47 There are exceptions in certain senses, like costed for 'determined the cost of' 04:24:59 fear the Wordman 04:25:39 rudybot: split or splat? 04:25:39 ijp: approximately zero, more or less. 04:25:47 :/ 04:25:57 give or take 04:26:10 rudybot: you just have to be awkward, don't you? 04:26:10 ijp: offby1 is just pretending to ohh and ahh, meanwhile he's furiously clicking the BUY NOW! button 04:27:28 *offby1* glances around nervously. 04:27:30 -!- mjonsson [~mjonsson@38.109.95.176] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 04:27:46 lisppaste appears to be brokenated 04:28:47 https://docs.google.com/document/d/1H7LI1sprIxKOIYxmoPNleL5ejlltb2NOksU_Ct4Lbtg <-- English irregular verbs 04:28:50 http://tinyurl.com/6wg2z53 04:30:23 Can someone make sure that is accessible? I've been having trouble with Google Docs lately. 04:31:29 jcowan: It opens, but it's empty. 04:31:37 Arrgh, I was afraid of that. 04:32:10 Try this: https://docs.google.com/a//document/pub?id=1H7LI1sprIxKOIYxmoPNleL5ejlltb2NOksU_Ct4Lbtg 04:32:11 http://tinyurl.com/75ooy6f 04:33:16 server error jcowan 04:33:22 Arrgh. 04:33:56 I get nothing interesting from the first one and a 404 from the second one. 04:34:03 jcowan: In English English, the list of "past vowels ending in -t" is even longer. 04:34:07 Riastradh: Remove the a//. 04:34:11 tuubow [~adityavit@c-69-136-105-164.hsd1.nj.comcast.net] has joined #scheme 04:34:26 jcowan: dream => dreamt; learn => learnt; burn => burnt; etc. 04:34:27 Now the second one works. 04:34:33 cky: Quite so. The source lists only verbs that work in all varieties. 04:34:47 At least I think it does; it's been some time since I looked there. 04:35:00 _schulte_ [~eschulte@ip98-169-80-239.dc.dc.cox.net] has joined #scheme 04:35:01 -!- woonie2 [~woonie@nusnet-224-220.dynip.nus.edu.sg] has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 04:35:02 *jcowan* actually says drempt despite being a Yank. 04:35:12 :-) 04:35:37 spell => spelt ;-) 04:36:01 (Example: "You spelt that word incorrectly.") 04:36:12 smell => smelt 04:36:13 -!- lcc [~user@unaffiliated/lcc] has quit [Quit: ERC Version 5.3 (IRC client for Emacs)] 04:36:28 ("The carpet smelt like piss.") 04:36:48 futilius [~will@ip72-220-161-181.sd.sd.cox.net] has joined #scheme 04:37:17 burn, dream, lean, learn, smell, spell, spill, spoil seems to be the canonical list. OTOH, BrE has quitted, wetted, at least as alternatives. 04:37:40 And then there's the wrong-way conversions (regular to irregular) of dove in AmE and twug in BrE 04:37:41 *offby1* wonders if it quitted and then wetted, or perhaps the other way around 04:37:51 or as James Brown put it: "Can we wetted it and quitted?" 04:38:10 jcowan: dove is actually still not fully proper even in AmE. 04:38:10 *jcowan* tongles his tang over that 04:38:31 jcowan: The sources I read say dived is still more correct. 04:39:12 They're out of date (most usage guides are). Both are now standard. 04:39:26 Fair enough. 04:41:16 http://books.google.com/books?id=2yJusP0vrdgC&printsec=frontcover#v=onepage&q&f=false <-- Merriam-Webster Dictionary of English Usage 04:41:17 http://tinyurl.com/7tapbez 04:41:40 is the only really reliable usage work, being based on actual investigation of what good writers do. 04:41:47 do american's use am'nt or just aren't? 04:41:56 aren't 04:42:00 *americans 04:42:59 or even ain't. 04:43:16 amn't is Scottish 04:43:21 or Irish, marginally 04:43:38 I was just wondering how widespread it is 04:44:09 Transformer [~Transform@ool-4a59e397.dyn.optonline.net] has joined #scheme 04:44:10 Maybe parts of the Caribbean or perhaps Newfoundland 04:44:24 I'd be surprised to find it beyond that range. 04:45:14 -!- Transformer [~Transform@ool-4a59e397.dyn.optonline.net] has left #scheme 04:45:17 I amn't sure, are yiz? 04:45:24 *jcowan* chuckles. 04:45:30 am'nt? 04:45:33 Isn't that just ain't. 04:45:39 Depends where you live. 04:45:40 I don't recall any Irish people saying "amn't", but I guess I haven't run into that many 04:45:50 Yeah, "am not" would be more usual. 04:45:51 I love how people started saying 'aren't I?' out of disdance for ain't. 04:46:01 While aren't I obviously is grammacal bastardization 04:46:15 disdain* 04:46:16 "aren't" and "ain't" sound very similar when said by people who don't pronounce their r's. 04:46:34 THere are no people who don't pronounce their r's I feel. 04:46:36 THat is a mythin 04:46:50 In non-rhothic accent the r is just a approximant 04:46:58 A semivowel counterpart of the mid-central vowel 04:47:22 farther and father are definitely minimal pairs for instance, the schwa is an allophone of the /r/ phoneme in those accents I feel. 04:47:53 Just like /u/ at the end of a syllable or /i/ maybe become [w] or [j] in some languages and dialects 04:50:10 -!- confab_ [~win7@public-nat2.arc.losrios.edu] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 04:50:29 jcowan: Depends on accent, too. 04:51:00 -!- jrslepak [~jrslepak@c-71-233-148-123.hsd1.ma.comcast.net] has quit [Quit: This computer has gone to sleep] 04:51:16 In New Zealand English, aren't sounds like "ahhnt" and ain't sounds like "aynt". 04:51:33 (In New Zealand English, ah, aw, and ay are very, very distinct sounds.) 04:54:22 cky: Oh yes, everywhere else too. But ain't began as "am not" and later spread to mean "are not" and even "is not". 04:55:04 jcowan: Huh, some Americans I know say "ah" and "aw" pretty much the same. 04:55:14 Oh yes, wasn't thinking of that. 04:55:50 I don't know of any general FACE-PALM merger, though. 04:55:53 For people who ask what "aw" sounds like, I refer them to a nickname for the Beatles, the Awesome Foursome. 04:56:01 In New Zealand English, that is a rhyme. 04:56:22 Lajla: "father" and "farther" really are merged in almost all non-rhotic dialects, with the marginal exception of the Bahamas (which is mostly rhotic). 04:56:53 jcowan, I disagree because I can hear it, but the difference bight be subtle to a speaker of a non-rhotic dialect 04:56:54 jcowan: In NZE those two words are not said the same way either: farther has a longer A than father. 04:56:56 farther has a schwa 04:57:04 jcowan: Sort of. 04:57:04 cky: Is there a NORTH-FORCE merger in NZ? ("horse" and "hoarse" sound the same, "fork" rhymes with "pork") 04:57:06 the 'a' in farther is a diphthong of a broad a and a schwa. 04:57:16 The r is phonemically there, and phonetically a schwa. 04:57:32 jcowan: They sound pretty much the same, yes. 04:58:09 cky: How about lava/larva, spa/spar, calmer/karma? 04:58:46 -!- Riastradh [~riastradh@fsf/member/riastradh] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 04:58:46 The vowels sound the same except the length. 04:59:11 Okay. NZ isn't an accent I know that much about. 04:59:28 So, I'd say larva with a longer A than lava, etc. 04:59:39 In AU, carp and cup are the same except in length. 04:59:40 But other than the length, they'd sound the same. 04:59:53 jcowan: In NZE, carp and cup do not sound alike at all. 04:59:59 Right. 05:00:44 Hence the graffiti where the Kiwi writes "Australia Sux!" and the Ozite writes under it "New Zealand Nil" 05:00:58 ;-) 05:00:58 -!- youlysses [~user@75-132-17-145.dhcp.stls.mo.charter.com] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 05:01:30 lolcow [~lolcow@196-210-248-4.dynamic.isadsl.co.za] has joined #scheme 05:01:31 See, the New Zealanders do not say "sucks" and "six" alike, either. 05:02:03 No, of course not. But NZ "sucks" does sound like "six" to most other speakers, except for Northern Cities Shift Americans. 05:02:21 Right. 05:02:39 That is well known, with the "fush and chups" vs "feesh and cheeps" thing. 05:02:45 *jcowan* nods. 05:02:49 I disagree == 05:02:54 THere is no such thing and you know it 05:02:55 Besides 05:03:00 It wouldn't make sense anyway 05:03:04 Is lajla telling people how the speak? 05:03:08 -!- leppie [~lolcow@196-210-143-173.dynamic.isadsl.co.za] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 05:03:19 because you can't pronounce the r in non-rhotic accents at the end of a syllable even if you wanted 05:03:22 it's an apprixmant 05:03:32 Ehh 05:03:34 a asemivowel 05:03:40 And as such it becomes a vowel there 05:04:17 The /r/ is just the semivowel counterpart to the schwa in those accents, which is what causes its perception of 'non-rhoticness' but the phoneme is definitely there and if you pronounce 'father' like 'farther' people will look up strange. 05:04:48 I know because I've asked a lot of people and they all could identity the difference between 'farther' and 'father' 05:05:12 "asked a lot of people" -- where? 05:05:34 English people over skype, I'm telling you it's there even though the O.E.D. claims it's not there 05:05:42 -!- lolcow is now known as leppie 05:05:45 And it wouldn't make sense for it to not be there from a phonological standpoint either 05:05:50 THey also claim that caught and court are identical 05:05:56 jcowan: If you asked New Zealanders to say father and farther, and asked other New Zealanders to pick them apart, they'd probably succeed. 05:05:56 Which just isn't true. 05:06:07 cky, preach it 05:06:09 jcowan: But if you ask non-New Zealanders to pick them apart, that wouldn't work quite so well. 05:06:13 Yeah 05:06:25 It just appears like the /r/ phoneme isn't there to speakers of rhotic accents 05:06:27 Quite: most of us are not used to listening for vowel-length differences. 05:06:29 BEcause it is very subtle 05:06:35 It's not vowel length 05:06:38 it's a diphthong with a schwa 05:06:47 Which gives the impression of simply a longer vowel to people not used to it. 05:06:49 But that's not it 05:06:53 Like, can and can in Australian language 05:07:03 Australian English would have can, can and carn. 05:07:13 Assuming carn as a word 05:07:16 With an æ 05:07:26 They are minimal... triplets? 05:07:38 can is short, can is long, carn is a diphthong to a schwa 05:07:53 tom_i [~thomasing@ingserv.demon.co.uk] has joined #scheme 05:08:29 In some cases like NEAR, SQUARE, NORTH, FORCE, and CURE (for those who haven't merged one or more away) there is a diphthong. But NURSE and START don't have centering diphthongs: they are pure long vowels. 05:08:46 (Here's the full list of lexical-set words: KIT, DRESS, TRAP, BAD, LOT, STRUT, FOOT, BATH, DANCE, CLOTH, NURSE, TERM, DIRT, FLEECE, BEAM, FACE, TRAIL, FREIGHT, PALM, THOUGHT, GOAT, SNOW, GOOSE, THREW, PRICE, CHOICE, MOUTH, NEAR, SQUARE, START, NORTH, FORCE, CURE.) 05:09:08 AFAIK there are no living accents that make distinctions in stressed vowels that can't be represented by that. 05:10:14 *jcowan* has TRAP=BAD=PATH, LOT=PALM, CLOTH=THOUGHT, NURSE=TERM=DIRT, FLEECE=BEAM, FACE=TRAIL=FREIGHT, GOAT=SNOW, GOOSE=THREW, NORTH=FORCE. 05:12:05 s/PATH/BATH 05:17:12 Interesting. 05:17:16 Let's try that list for me. 05:17:43 (I'm trying to do this in a way that isn't O(n^2).) 05:17:53 But I think that's hard to do. 05:18:05 Likely matches are mostly adjacent, and there is a pattern: short vowels, long vowels, diphthongs, r-colored vowels. 05:18:10 Okay. 05:19:13 In particular, BATH and CLOTH are always merged with something else. 05:20:55 Oops, I actually have TRAP=BAD=PATH=DANCE, missed that. 05:21:09 trap = bad; bath = dance = palm; lot = cloth; nurse = term = dirt; fleece = beam = near; face = trail = freight; goose = threw; north = force. 05:24:37 -!- leppie [~lolcow@196-210-248-4.dynamic.isadsl.co.za] has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 05:29:48 leppie [~lolcow@196-215-4-154.dynamic.isadsl.co.za] has joined #scheme 05:31:59 jcowan, how I pronounce 'start' it definitely has a minor slide going on. 05:32:21 For instance, the difference between Ms Brahms and Ms Brarms 05:32:24 If brarms would exist 05:34:19 -!- leppie [~lolcow@196-215-4-154.dynamic.isadsl.co.za] has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 05:38:29 -!- tom_i [~thomasing@ingserv.demon.co.uk] has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 05:38:40 leppie [~lolcow@196-210-248-61.dynamic.isadsl.co.za] has joined #scheme 05:42:49 -!- leppie [~lolcow@196-210-248-61.dynamic.isadsl.co.za] has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 05:48:16 tom_i [~thomasing@ingserv.demon.co.uk] has joined #scheme 05:52:36 djcb` [~user@a88-114-95-13.elisa-laajakaista.fi] has joined #scheme 05:52:59 leppie [~lolcow@196-210-248-61.dynamic.isadsl.co.za] has joined #scheme 05:53:58 -!- djcb [~user@a88-114-95-13.elisa-laajakaista.fi] has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 05:55:47 -!- attila_lendvai [~attila_le@unaffiliated/attila-lendvai/x-3126965] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 05:57:33 confab [~confab@c-71-193-9-153.hsd1.ca.comcast.net] has joined #scheme 06:06:34 -!- jewel [~jewel@c-76-102-3-91.hsd1.ca.comcast.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 06:06:35 attila_lendvai [~attila_le@unaffiliated/attila-lendvai/x-3126965] has joined #scheme 06:07:45 realitygrill [~realitygr@adsl-76-226-120-20.dsl.sfldmi.sbcglobal.net] has joined #scheme 06:09:45 gravicappa [~gravicapp@ppp91-77-221-7.pppoe.mtu-net.ru] has joined #scheme 06:13:21 jewel [~jewel@c-76-102-3-91.hsd1.ca.comcast.net] has joined #scheme 06:15:49 -!- sharkbird [~sharkbird@67-220-6-139.usiwireless.com] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 06:16:15 sharkbird [~sharkbird@67-220-6-139.usiwireless.com] has joined #scheme 06:20:48 confab_ [~confab@c-71-193-9-153.hsd1.ca.comcast.net] has joined #scheme 06:21:25 -!- confab [~confab@c-71-193-9-153.hsd1.ca.comcast.net] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 06:21:40 -!- attila_lendvai [~attila_le@unaffiliated/attila-lendvai/x-3126965] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 06:24:39 -!- jewel [~jewel@c-76-102-3-91.hsd1.ca.comcast.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 06:24:53 cky: Pretty much the same set of mergers as RP, except for CURE being separate from NORTH=FORCE. 06:27:24 jao [~user@pdpc/supporter/professional/jao] has joined #scheme 06:27:40 -!- jcowan [~John@cpe-66-108-19-185.nyc.res.rr.com] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 06:28:24 -!- djcb` [~user@a88-114-95-13.elisa-laajakaista.fi] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 06:28:50 albacker [~eni@gob75-5-82-230-88-217.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #scheme 06:28:50 -!- albacker [~eni@gob75-5-82-230-88-217.fbx.proxad.net] has quit [Changing host] 06:28:50 albacker [~eni@unaffiliated/enyx] has joined #scheme 06:30:00 shriphani [~user@pal-160-034.itap.purdue.edu] has joined #scheme 06:30:27 hello everyone. How do I do (error "foo") in scheme48? I tried googling for it but I can't find anything. 06:30:29 -!- Arafangion [~Arafangio@220-244-108-23.static.tpgi.com.au] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 06:39:43 cdidd [~cdidd@95-27-253-72.broadband.corbina.ru] has joined #scheme 06:43:38 -!- jonrafkind [~jon@jonr5.dsl.xmission.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 06:46:17 -!- tuubow [~adityavit@c-69-136-105-164.hsd1.nj.comcast.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 06:49:27 lcc [~user@unaffiliated/lcc] has joined #scheme 06:56:27 hkBst [~marijn@79.170.210.172] has joined #scheme 06:56:28 -!- hkBst [~marijn@79.170.210.172] has quit [Changing host] 06:56:28 hkBst [~marijn@gentoo/developer/hkbst] has joined #scheme 06:59:00 shriphani: you need srfi-13 06:59:03 ,open srfi-13 i believe 07:06:07 -!- virl__ [~virl__@91.119.83.164] has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 07:06:46 virl__ [~virl__@85-127-87-189.dynamic.xdsl-line.inode.at] has joined #scheme 07:12:27 -!- lcc [~user@unaffiliated/lcc] has quit [Quit: ERC Version 5.3 (IRC client for Emacs)] 07:14:32 attila_lendvai [~attila_le@87.247.56.73] has joined #scheme 07:14:32 -!- attila_lendvai [~attila_le@87.247.56.73] has quit [Changing host] 07:14:32 attila_lendvai [~attila_le@unaffiliated/attila-lendvai/x-3126965] has joined #scheme 07:14:54 lcc [~user@unaffiliated/lcc] has joined #scheme 07:17:41 tuubow [~adityavit@c-69-136-105-164.hsd1.nj.comcast.net] has joined #scheme 07:19:27 -!- cswords_ [~cswords@c-98-223-234-80.hsd1.in.comcast.net] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 07:19:47 -!- tokiya_ [~tokiya@210.24.42.190] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 07:20:22 tokiya [~tokiya@210.24.42.190] has joined #scheme 07:23:17 -!- homie` [~levgue@xdsl-78-35-161-197.netcologne.de] has quit [Quit: ERC Version 5.3 (IRC client for Emacs)] 07:27:14 homie [~levgue@xdsl-78-35-161-197.netcologne.de] has joined #scheme 07:29:55 -!- shriphani [~user@pal-160-034.itap.purdue.edu] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 07:30:02 -!- forcer [~forcer@hmbg-5f763068.pool.mediaWays.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 07:32:09 shriphani [~user@pal-160-034.itap.purdue.edu] has joined #scheme 07:34:38 -!- tom_i [~thomasing@ingserv.demon.co.uk] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 07:34:45 -!- shriphani [~user@pal-160-034.itap.purdue.edu] has left #scheme 07:38:05 -!- copumpkin [~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin] has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 07:38:34 copumpkin [~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin] has joined #scheme 07:38:44 -!- X-Scale` [name@2001:470:1f14:135b::2] has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 07:39:25 woonie [~woonie@spnp240206.spnp.nus.edu.sg] has joined #scheme 07:41:47 forcer [~forcer@hmbg-4d06ee3a.pool.mediaWays.net] has joined #scheme 07:47:23 -!- albacker [~eni@unaffiliated/enyx] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 07:59:04 preflex_ [~preflex@unaffiliated/mauke/bot/preflex] has joined #scheme 07:59:44 -!- preflex [~preflex@unaffiliated/mauke/bot/preflex] has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 07:59:50 -!- preflex_ is now known as preflex 08:06:18 sawgij [~sawjig@gateway/tor-sasl/sawjig] has joined #scheme 08:10:52 -!- virl__ [~virl__@85-127-87-189.dynamic.xdsl-line.inode.at] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 08:17:17 pumpkin [~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin] has joined #scheme 08:17:21 -!- copumpkin [~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 08:17:25 -!- pumpkin is now known as copumpkin 08:20:52 adu [~ajr@pool-72-83-26-98.washdc.fios.verizon.net] has joined #scheme 08:20:52 -!- wingo [~wingo@90.164.198.39] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 08:22:11 -!- tuubow [~adityavit@c-69-136-105-164.hsd1.nj.comcast.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 08:22:59 -!- adu [~ajr@pool-72-83-26-98.washdc.fios.verizon.net] has quit [Client Quit] 08:25:25 kvda [~kvda@124-169-155-127.dyn.iinet.net.au] has joined #scheme 08:34:21 -!- kvda [~kvda@124-169-155-127.dyn.iinet.net.au] has quit [Quit: x___x] 08:41:55 -!- jao [~user@pdpc/supporter/professional/jao] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 08:42:50 tuubow [~adityavit@c-69-136-105-164.hsd1.nj.comcast.net] has joined #scheme 08:49:42 tom_i [~thomasing@cmc.beaming.biz] has joined #scheme 09:00:52 kpal [~kpal@janus-nat-128-240-225-120.ncl.ac.uk] has joined #scheme 09:11:14 untrusted [~user@stgt-5f719d0a.pool.mediaWays.net] has joined #scheme 09:11:48 bas_ [~bas@89.184.179.185] has joined #scheme 09:11:49 -!- bas_ is now known as Skola 09:37:59 -!- untrusted [~user@stgt-5f719d0a.pool.mediaWays.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 09:42:20 -!- dous [~dous@unaffiliated/dous] has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 09:54:51 -!- stepnem [~stepnem@176.119.broadband10.iol.cz] has quit [Quit: ZNC - 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You mean srfi 23 12:04:47 rageous [~Adium@65-128-200-54.mpls.qwest.net] has joined #scheme 12:05:30 -!- rageous [~Adium@65-128-200-54.mpls.qwest.net] has quit [Client Quit] 12:09:33 rageous [~Adium@65-128-200-54.mpls.qwest.net] has joined #scheme 12:10:09 jrslepak [~jrslepak@c-71-233-148-123.hsd1.ma.comcast.net] has joined #scheme 12:10:47 ijp: i do indeed, thanks for the correction! 12:11:07 -!- FireFly [~firefly@firefly.xen.prgmr.com] has quit [Changing host] 12:11:07 FireFly [~firefly@unaffiliated/firefly] has joined #scheme 12:14:56 -!- confab_ is now known as confab 12:21:10 -!- jrslepak [~jrslepak@c-71-233-148-123.hsd1.ma.comcast.net] has quit [Quit: This computer has gone to sleep] 12:23:06 -!- lcc [~user@unaffiliated/lcc] has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 12:23:09 tomodo [~tomodo@gateway/tor-sasl/tomodo] has joined #scheme 12:23:18 -!- LeoNerd [~leo@cel.leonerd.org.uk] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 12:25:32 -!- MichaelRaskin [~MichaelRa@3ad50e34.broker.freenet6.net] 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have it be all neat and tidy. 15:26:34 *cky* presumes that "frotz" was in reference to the Enchanter series spell, thus. ;-) 15:26:38 Hackin what? 15:26:39 -!- eno [~eno@nslu2-linux/eno] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 15:26:50 Also, where'd your apostrophe go? 15:27:17 Riastradh: The reader ate it up and turned it into QUOTE. ;-) 15:27:54 rudybot: apostrophes are so old fashioned... 15:27:54 ijp: more apostrophes more good 15:28:06 rudybot++ 15:28:19 ijp: I like my hyphens a lot too. :-) 15:28:29 eno [~eno@nslu2-linux/eno] has joined #scheme 15:29:00 funnily enough, rudybot was quoting me :) 15:29:10 Oh yay. :-) 15:29:31 -!- hkBst [~marijn@gentoo/developer/hkbst] has quit [Quit: Konversation terminated!] 15:29:51 Riastradh: a non-blocking io module with epoll and coroutines! 15:29:52 -!- jrslepak [~jrslepak@129.10.229.84] has quit [Quit: This computer has gone to sleep] 15:29:54 good times 15:30:13 wingo, what's a `proper event manager', and is Scheme-CML one? 15:30:19 ...wait, what? 15:30:26 i don't know anything about scheme-cml 15:30:29 Did you just answer my question before I asked it? 15:30:34 wingo: why are coroutines required? 15:30:34 haha! 15:30:49 samth: it's either coroutines or callbacks, no? 15:30:52 asdfhjkl [~bob@i5E879AE1.versanet.de] has joined #scheme 15:31:00 wingo: or threads 15:31:25 yes, but guile's threads are os threads, and you don't really want to run more of them than you have processors 15:31:43 wingo: i see -- maybe you should have green threads too 15:31:50 yes, perhaps 15:32:13 guile currently doesn't have any good story for limiting the time or space of the execution of a piece of code, and that seems to be related 15:32:19 to user-space schedules 15:32:21 *schedulers 15:34:20 cky, there is an /r/ phoneme 15:34:22 Admit it. 15:34:26 It's there 15:34:50 Like don and dorn 15:34:54 con and corn 15:35:01 They are different 15:35:02 admit it 15:35:05 -!- futilius [~will@ip72-220-161-181.sd.sd.cox.net] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 15:35:07 You know they are 15:36:12 I'm not the right person to have this discussion with. I'm not a linguist, just a New Zealand English speaker. 15:36:20 Yes 15:36:24 that is right enough 15:36:26 Because you are a native 15:36:31 and you can hear the difference right? 15:36:39 "I'm not an English speaker, just a New Zealand linguist." 15:36:41 That's all I need to know. 15:36:48 :) 15:37:19 wingo: :-D 15:37:38 cky, say yeees 15:37:45 I say yawn. 15:37:46 so I can use ths against the evils 15:38:19 the evils are too busy killing baby seals to worry about linguistic issues 15:38:31 THis is groundbreaking scientific research that will lead to properly recalibrated dilithium matrices 15:38:37 you will not stand in the way of progress young lady. 15:38:45 evil isn't something you can just do part-time 15:38:49 it takes commitment 15:41:52 So does properly recalibrated dilithium matrices. 15:42:01 Commander ijp, engage at warp 8 15:42:13 lol @ wingo 15:42:37 set lambdas to confuse 15:43:05 jlongster [~user@pool-173-53-25-16.rcmdva.fios.verizon.net] has joined #scheme 15:50:42 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Ya harri hey! Ya hoi! 19:56:14 -!- CampinSam [~CampinSam@24-176-98-217.dhcp.jcsn.tn.charter.com] has quit [Quit: leaving] 19:56:22 ... 19:58:56 *offby1* recalls Charles Grodin explaining to Robert DeNiro the meaning of "ya-ta-hey" 20:00:01 *jcowan* chuckles 20:09:22 FACEFOX [~facefox@pool-74-111-197-200.lsanca.fios.verizon.net] has joined #scheme 20:09:22 -!- FACEFOX [~facefox@pool-74-111-197-200.lsanca.fios.verizon.net] has quit [Excess Flood] 20:15:03 That was from the orc song in The Hobbit 20:21:17 CampinSam [~CampinSam@24-176-98-217.dhcp.jcsn.tn.charter.com] has joined #scheme 20:25:24 -!- CampinSam [~CampinSam@24-176-98-217.dhcp.jcsn.tn.charter.com] has quit [Client Quit] 20:26:25 CampinSam [~CampinSam@24-176-98-217.dhcp.jcsn.tn.charter.com] has joined #scheme 20:28:25 lcc [~user@unaffiliated/lcc] has joined #scheme 20:29:34 -!- Riastradh [~riastradh@fsf/member/riastradh] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 20:32:41 HG` [~HG@dsbg-4db57c6d.pool.mediaWays.net] has joined #scheme 20:33:37 -!- asdfhjkl [~bob@i5E879AE1.versanet.de] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 20:41:02 -!- tom_i [~thomasing@ingserv.demon.co.uk] has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 20:46:39 Ragnaroek [~chatzilla@p5081F5F0.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #scheme 20:51:38 -!- Ragnaroek [~chatzilla@p5081F5F0.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 20:58:10 -!- keenbug [~daniel@p4FDB7322.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 21:01:23 -!- langmartin [~user@host-68-169-175-226.WISOLT2.epbfi.com] has quit [Quit: ERC Version 5.3 (IRC client for Emacs)] 21:06:48 -!- copumpkin [~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 21:07:03 wingo [~wingo@90.164.198.39] has joined #scheme 21:11:11 MrFahrenheit [~RageOfTho@users-55-233.vinet.ba] has joined #scheme 21:14:37 cdidd [~cdidd@95-26-190-51.broadband.corbina.ru] has joined #scheme 21:16:19 -!- jonrafkind [~jon@jonr5.dsl.xmission.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 21:29:11 -!- chupish [182c5af4@gateway/web/freenode/ip.24.44.90.244] has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 21:32:46 tuubow [~adityavit@c-69-136-105-164.hsd1.nj.comcast.net] has joined #scheme 21:37:35 -!- aelath [~aelath@host-68-169-175-226.WISOLT2.epbfi.com] has quit [Quit: aelath] 21:39:32 -!- dzhus [~sphinx@176.14.94.92] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 21:40:27 -!- HG` [~HG@dsbg-4db57c6d.pool.mediaWays.net] has quit [Quit: HG`] 21:42:11 -!- stis [~stis@1-1-1-39a.veo.vs.bostream.se] has left #scheme 21:45:05 -!- mmc1 [~michal@178-85-63-71.dynamic.upc.nl] has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 21:47:16 copumpkin [~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin] has joined #scheme 21:54:17 jrslepak [~jrslepak@c-71-233-148-123.hsd1.ma.comcast.net] has joined #scheme 21:58:18 kvda [~kvda@124-169-155-127.dyn.iinet.net.au] has joined #scheme 22:00:16 -!- CampinSam [~CampinSam@24-176-98-217.dhcp.jcsn.tn.charter.com] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 22:01:07 CampinSam [~CampinSam@24-176-98-217.dhcp.jcsn.tn.charter.com] has joined #scheme 22:02:59 -!- jcowan [c6b912cf@gateway/web/freenode/ip.198.185.18.207] has quit [Quit: Page closed] 22:05:07 Would anyone mind if I refer to unnesting as parataxis from here on out; or, more correctly, paratacticizing? 22:09:28 Whatwhat? 22:09:50 airolson [~airolson@CPE00222d55a738-CM00222d55a735.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com] has joined #scheme 22:10:53 :) 22:11:05 LeoNerd: Referring to this boolean -> goal transformation, resembling CPS, that occurs when expressing things in kanren. 22:11:19 Cf. parataxis vs. hypotaxis. 22:11:59 Homer, for instance, had a paratactical bias; Pindar, on the other hand, hypotactical. The former is also easier to understand. 22:12:28 I'm not sure if you can generalize from Greek poetry to functional vs. declarative dialects of Scheme, though. 22:14:47 :-) 22:16:43 -!- copumpkin is now known as Magnitude 22:17:16 -!- Magnitude is now known as copumpkin 22:18:15 albacker [~eni@gob75-5-82-230-88-217.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #scheme 22:18:15 -!- albacker [~eni@gob75-5-82-230-88-217.fbx.proxad.net] has quit [Changing host] 22:18:15 albacker [~eni@unaffiliated/enyx] has joined #scheme 22:19:11 klutometis: but you'll die trying. 22:22:07 cswords [~cswords@c-98-223-234-80.hsd1.in.comcast.net] has joined #scheme 22:22:49 X-Scale` [name@2001:470:1f14:135b::2] has joined #scheme 22:22:59 *offby1* wonders if parataxis go to the airport 22:23:38 offby1: specialised bird transport 22:24:08 -!- wingo [~wingo@90.164.198.39] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 22:25:49 :> I like birds 22:26:00 :) 22:26:55 -!- gravicappa [~gravicapp@ppp91-77-209-13.pppoe.mtu-net.ru] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 22:27:42 Declarative programming (in kanren, at least) is strange: it seems to mutate the domain every time you add constraints; and, instead of goal composition, you get unnesting. 22:28:11 Mutation, non-composition; doesn't seem "functional". I realize, freely, that my intuition is green and probably off. 22:28:33 you're right 22:47:04 -!- bipt [~bpt@cpe-071-070-253-241.nc.res.rr.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 22:48:13 -!- _schulte_ [~eschulte@ip98-169-80-239.dc.dc.cox.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 22:57:00 -!- snizzo [~quassel@host37-139-dynamic.180-80-r.retail.telecomitalia.it] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 23:00:07 -!- samth is now known as samth_away 23:02:08 -!- copumpkin [~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin] has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 23:02:45 copumpkin [~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin] has joined #scheme 23:07:27 -!- airolson [~airolson@CPE00222d55a738-CM00222d55a735.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com] has quit [] 23:10:33 phax [~phax@cpc14-haye17-2-0-cust110.haye.cable.virginmedia.com] has joined #scheme 23:10:34 -!- phax [~phax@cpc14-haye17-2-0-cust110.haye.cable.virginmedia.com] has quit [Changing host] 23:10:34 phax [~phax@unaffiliated/phax] has joined #scheme 23:12:46 -!- ASau [~user@95-26-216-211.broadband.corbina.ru] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 23:13:17 ASau [~user@95-26-216-211.broadband.corbina.ru] has joined #scheme 23:15:02 homie` [~levgue@xdsl-78-35-141-68.netcologne.de] has joined #scheme 23:17:08 -!- homie [~levgue@xdsl-78-35-135-243.netcologne.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 23:25:29 -!- adu [~ajr@pool-72-83-26-98.washdc.fios.verizon.net] has quit [Quit: adu] 23:25:30 metasyntax [~taylor@c-98-214-251-184.hsd1.in.comcast.net] has joined #scheme 23:28:30 tomodo: That wouldn't be such a big deal; but prolog is billed as a pure functional language. I think it is: it's nice and lazy. There seems to be an order-dependence of constraints, though, unless I'm totally wrong. 23:31:30 -!- soveran [~soveran@186.19.214.247] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 23:31:30 virl__ [~virl__@85-127-17-86.dynamic.xdsl-line.inode.at] has joined #scheme 23:33:26 order dependence comes from the depth first execution 23:34:01 ideally, ordering wouldn't matter - but how would execution happen then? BFS is possible but tends to take excessive memory 23:34:19 -!- virl [~virl__@85-127-87-189.dynamic.xdsl-line.inode.at] has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 23:35:03 Prolog has side effects (I/O, cut) 23:35:35 No clue who would bill it as "pure functional" 23:35:58 If you want functional and logic programming, use Mercury 23:36:15 -!- lcc [~user@unaffiliated/lcc] has quit [Quit: ERC Version 5.3 (IRC client for Emacs)] 23:37:27 -!- kvda [~kvda@124-169-155-127.dyn.iinet.net.au] has quit [Quit: -___-] 23:39:23 you can try to program order independent clauses, but it's not always easy 23:41:38 -!- tuubow [~adityavit@c-69-136-105-164.hsd1.nj.comcast.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 23:42:38 forcer++ // i'd like to play with mercury 23:49:03 -!- RomyRomy [~stickycak@207.239.107.3] has quit [Quit: RomyRomy] 23:56:59 -!- albacker [~eni@unaffiliated/enyx] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 23:58:10 bipt [~bpt@cpe-071-070-253-241.nc.res.rr.com] has joined #scheme 23:59:27 jake__ [~jake@63.249.57.43] has joined #scheme