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Any common pitfalls I should know about in regards to reclaiming resources? 04:58:58 I accept a connection, and spawn a thread which reads and writes to the accepted ports, eventually finishing. There's a global list that is mutated throughout this. Do you think that may be causing the problem? I'm using (set! (filter ... )) in some parts 04:58:59 -!- asdfhjkl [~bob@i5E879AE1.versanet.de] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 04:59:22 realitygrill [~realitygr@76.226.219.231] has joined #scheme 05:00:24 -!- tomodo [~tomodo@gateway/tor-sasl/tomodo] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 05:05:07 tomodo [~tomodo@gateway/tor-sasl/tomodo] has joined #scheme 05:08:54 -!- jrslepak [~jrslepak@c-71-233-151-135.hsd1.ma.comcast.net] has quit [Quit: What happened to Systems A through E?] 05:14:16 dnolen [~user@cpe-98-14-92-234.nyc.res.rr.com] has joined #scheme 05:15:18 riverswain [~avery@67-2-16-222.slkc.qwest.net] has joined #scheme 05:16:17 -!- EmmanuelOga [~emmanuel@host81.201-253-131.telecom.net.ar] has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 05:26:36 Operaist2 [~OperaIst@ppp-110-169-253-179.revip5.asianet.co.th] has joined #scheme 05:26:44 is there an x such that (list x) = empty list? 05:27:24 shadwick, does the function you use for your filter affect the with a side effect? 05:27:33 Operaist2, neup 05:27:55 For every x, (list x) has a length of 1 as far as I know, you need (list) 05:28:25 Lajjla: the filter simply checks which items don't have a certain field value. So it's basically weeding out the items that have a certain field, and setting the global list to that 05:28:35 cdidd [~cdidd@89-178-224-41.broadband.corbina.ru] has joined #scheme 05:29:05 shadwick, ah, no idea. 05:29:08 I will counter though 05:29:42 Like, when I wake up, my right ear always feels like your hears feel when you're under water, like 30 minutes of so it suddenly 'pops' and I can hear clearly again with it 05:29:49 do you know what causes that and how to fix it? 05:30:04 Hm, I see the connection you're trying to draw 05:31:19 Not at all 05:31:24 I must admit, I only measured a certain amount, namely that the program starts up at ~600KB and I ran connections to it that interacted and closed properly, each of which consumed about 4KB more until I was up to about 900KB of memory for the server, with the global list only having a single entry in it the whole time (though it was continuously adding one thing then removing it) 05:31:27 Merely wanting a solution 05:32:13 so I'm wondering if something isn't get cleaned back up after a thread terminates (even though they're terminating normally) 05:41:03 -!- sharkbird [~sharkbird@67-220-6-139.usiwireless.com] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 05:41:59 -!- attila_lendvai [~attila_le@unaffiliated/attila-lendvai/x-3126965] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 05:42:44 sharkbird [~sharkbird@67-220-6-139.usiwireless.com] has joined #scheme 05:43:07 Lajjla: if this helps, it's the snippet of my server loop and list-modifying code 05:43:09 http://paste.pocoo.org/show/562215/ 05:44:16 gravicappa [~gravicapp@ppp91-77-181-204.pppoe.mtu-net.ru] has joined #scheme 05:45:37 don't se any problems with that 05:45:57 you can use named let rather than letrec, btw 05:46:08 I'll have to look into that 05:46:12 is it less verbose? 05:46:20 does handle-connection close "in" and "out"? 05:46:21 yeah, but it's not really different othar than that 05:46:42 offby1: yes, it finishes termination by (close-input-port in) and (close-output-port out) 05:47:21 hmph 05:48:16 coming from C, my first though would be to look at the string handling parts.. all the appends or substring calls. 05:48:29 s/though/thought/ 05:49:04 but if I'm making some string with (string-append ...) in a (let* ...) then it should be cleared up as needed after the let block right? 05:49:18 assuming nothing else is holding onto it I guess 05:53:04 -!- kudkudyak [~user@94.72.137.15] has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 05:54:55 shadwick, does it ever run over 900Kb of memory? 05:55:20 Might be just how the garbageman of your particular implementation does its job 05:56:02 offby1, 05:56:07 I am anencephalic 05:56:16 I was born without a brain 05:58:41 Lajjla: good idea! I ran 1000 connections and it appeared to slow to and approach 980KB. I'm running 1000 more now and it doesn't seem to be exceeding that at all now 05:59:04 I hadn't thought about the particulars of the GC 05:59:11 See, sometimes it takes a lack of a brain to realize the most obvious answer 05:59:30 You know, like ehh, Daniel Jackson did with the replicants which the mighty Asgard couldn't beat. 05:59:49 Great. 3000 more connections and it hasn't gone above 980KB still. Thanks a bunch 06:00:01 You can give me your brain in return. 06:00:19 I swear, it will be used only to further the cause of humanity, not for nutritional purposes, I am not undead. 06:00:40 I believe I need most of it 06:00:59 Even though we anencephalic people look undead to the unexperienced eye, this is merely a superficial resemblance. 06:01:13 Oh well. 06:01:29 Can't hold you against that, I provided my invaluably brainless insight out of my own free will 06:01:54 still, you might have taken slight advantage of the fact that every function of my body is regulated by my spine and as such I have no higher functions of free will to begin with. 06:13:53 snits [~snits@75-167-2-163.phnx.qwest.net] has joined #scheme 06:17:26 -!- jonrafkind [~jon@jonr5.dsl.xmission.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 06:24:09 -!- toekutr [~user@50-0-51-2.dsl.static.sonic.net] has left #scheme 06:26:56 skld [~skld@unaffiliated/skld] has joined #scheme 06:27:05 -!- skld [~skld@unaffiliated/skld] has 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that? 08:02:58 yes 08:03:06 it's pretty simple 08:03:29 -!- tuubow [~adityavit@c-69-136-105-164.hsd1.nj.comcast.net] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 08:03:41 I'll have her try that 08:06:05 Obfuscate [~keii@ip98-176-16-175.sd.sd.cox.net] has joined #scheme 08:07:18 That was a painless install 08:07:33 good! 08:12:29 -!- Obfuscate [~keii@ip98-176-16-175.sd.sd.cox.net] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 08:12:46 Obfuscate [~keii@ip98-176-16-175.sd.sd.cox.net] has joined #scheme 08:14:07 -!- Obfuscate [~keii@ip98-176-16-175.sd.sd.cox.net] has quit [Client Quit] 08:15:53 -!- jakky [jakk@razor.sharp.penisbird.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 08:16:16 rageous1 [~Adium@75-161-165-42.mpls.qwest.net] has joined #scheme 08:16:18 your wife is a woman? 08:16:18 djcb [djcb@nat/nokia/x-wajjmmvwwoeqmthx] has joined #scheme 08:16:39 arbscht [~arbscht@fsf/member/arbscht] has joined #scheme 08:17:26 yeah, shes pretty good at writing code but she decided instead of 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Yes. 14:39:09 I tend to pronounce it as ess-eye-cee-pee. 14:39:25 I bet you pronounce ess-see-ess-eye as well :P 14:39:40 LeoNerd: No, I've learnt to say scuzzi at a young age. ;-) 14:39:55 I do say ess-que-el, though. 14:40:16 ¿qué? 14:40:25 :-) 14:41:43 -!- rostayob [~rostayob@dyn1194-170.wlan.ic.ac.uk] has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 14:42:18 The sadistic part of me wants to invite Operaist2 to #stackoverflow so that his sexist ass can get a new hole ripped into it. 14:43:50 I <3<3<3 #stackoverflow, it's my home channel, and there's absolutely no room there for "oh what, girls can program?"-type comments. 14:44:04 -!- realitygrill [~realitygr@76.226.219.231] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 14:44:56 frankly the strategy of "get some good theory down before leaping into coding" beats the brogrammer child-who-won't-grow-up shtick any day. 14:45:10 qu1j0t3: Totally. 14:45:32 so, i'm all admiration for sontek's wife :) 14:46:15 cky: met a self-described "Hogrammer" on Quora -- made me laugh! 14:46:47 qu1j0t3: Yeah, it impressed me, I started her out with python and then started showing her django so that she could build stuff quickly without much knowledge 14:46:54 qu1j0t3: and she decided she didn't like that 14:47:09 sontek: :) 14:47:34 sontek: she's wiser than me when I was younger. :< 14:47:56 qu1j0t3: Wow. :-) 14:47:59 just yesterday I was thinking, i was 'exposed' to lisp in the 80s, 90s, and so on but never took it seriously. still don't know what blown fuse was responsible for that. 14:48:02 qu1j0t3: (Re "hogrammer".) 14:48:51 qu1j0t3: That's the thing, being exposed to a language doesn't mean you actually grok it. 14:49:20 qu1j0t3: I was exposed to Haskell at university but it wasn't until many years later when I realised it was actually an awesome language. 14:49:20 cky: right. it wasn't until a couple of years ago that somebody (Quadrescence koff koff) finally pushed me to learn Scheme and SICP. 14:49:27 cky: yeah. 14:49:40 cky: right, uni experiences (sadly!) often turn people away from things. 14:49:47 cky: that's the wrong way round ! :`( 14:49:49 Hehehehehe. 14:50:17 sontek: Being married to someone who wants to grok programming is a wonderful thing. 14:50:17 -!- copumpkin [~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin] has quit [Quit: Computer has gone to sleep.] 14:50:22 cky: it's the kind of tale i hear regularly. e.g. i know one guy who 'hates scheme' because of a bad teacher. luckily he realises it was the teacher's problem and not the language. 14:50:45 qu1j0t3: Very sad. 14:51:08 cky: but it takes a bit of individual initiative to overcome stuff like that and try again with a fresh view. 14:51:20 cky: pm? 14:51:22 cky: I'm just worried shes going to be better than me! 14:51:22 qu1j0t3: See, I didn't have any Scheme courses at university. 14:51:25 qu1j0t3: Please do. 14:51:34 sontek: That's a good thing, then she'll help you grow. :-) 14:51:38 sontek: LOL! let's hope! :) 14:51:44 sontek: she can work with our company!!!! 14:51:45 sontek: _Every_ programmer can stand to grow. :-) 14:51:51 cky: agreed * 100 14:52:00 I know many teachers that only teach programming because they couldn't make a living as programmers. Now how can such a strategy work? :-) 14:52:10 mario-goulart: they admitted that? 14:52:15 mario-goulart: how did you make this survey? 14:52:32 qu1j0t3: I know the persons I'm talking about. 14:52:33 mario-goulart: maybe they're teaching because the industry JUST BLOODY SUCKS. 14:52:55 No, they can't make real programs. 14:53:30 Some people go into teaching because commercial programming burnt them out. 14:53:30 jrslepak [~jrslepak@c-71-233-148-123.hsd1.ma.comcast.net] has joined #scheme 14:53:37 And they want a change of scene. 14:53:51 mario-goulart: then they're hardly worse than many professionals 14:53:57 cky: yes 14:54:09 cky: and based on what i've seen, and my friends have been through, i can't blame them. 14:54:25 qu1j0t3: http://careers.stackoverflow.com/cky <-- see a pattern? ;-) 14:54:42 qu1j0t3: (Okay, so I didn't end up working as a full-time teacher in the end, but that was very much my intent at the time.) 14:54:53 I also know some programming teachers that didn't even try to get a job as programmers. They just went University (as student) -> University (as teacher) 14:54:56 rostayob [~rostayob@dyn1195-50.wlan.ic.ac.uk] has joined #scheme 14:55:08 mario-goulart: do you know of Richard O'Keefe? 14:55:14 qu1j0t3: no 14:55:18 mario-goulart: some academics are far too good for industry. 14:55:28 mario-goulart: we don't have to discuss only the poor ones. 14:55:39 mario-goulart: Have you read Coders at Work> 14:55:45 mario-goulart: what's your opinion of Simon Peyton-Jones? 14:55:46 tomodo [~tomodo@gateway/tor-sasl/tomodo] has joined #scheme 14:55:55 mario-goulart: and his career 14:56:22 qu1j0t3: of course there are good ones, but I'd say they are a small part. 14:56:51 mario-goulart: perhaps. but that also applies to industry equally. 14:56:52 I haven't read Coders at Work. 14:56:57 mario-goulart: it's GREAT. 14:57:10 qu1j0t3: sure, but teachers are supposed to TEACH. :-) 14:57:19 mario-goulart: they interviewed Guy Steele, Knuth, about six other top notch people including SPJ - what's not to like! 14:57:24 How can they teach something they don't know. :-) 14:57:41 qu1j0t3: I know the book, I just haven't read it. 14:57:43 mario-goulart: if we knew a way to fire the 80% of poor teachers, we'd apply the same rule to the software industry, and it would be largely fixed. 14:57:55 mario-goulart: just recommending it. pure enjoyment. 14:59:11 Richard O'Keefe is an NZ professor -- writes regularly on the Erlang list -- one of the most incisive commenters there. 14:59:26 brain the size of a planet. 14:59:54 surprised he doesn't hang around the lisp community. he's studied it deeply. 15:00:40 80% of teachers are mediocre, so they're matched to the 80% of students who will be mediocre. the rest will find knowledge anyway. 15:01:08 *qu1j0t3* returns to lurking 15:02:01 im a fan of his prolog stuff 15:03:00 tomodo: :D 15:07:52 -!- rostayob [~rostayob@dyn1195-50.wlan.ic.ac.uk] has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 15:12:27 rostayob [~rostayob@dyn1195-50.wlan.ic.ac.uk] has joined #scheme 15:15:48 copumpkin [~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin] has joined #scheme 15:19:26 -!- lcc [~user@unaffiliated/lcc] has quit [Quit: ERC Version 5.3 (IRC client for Emacs)] 15:22:10 -!- tuubow_ [~adityavit@c-69-136-105-164.hsd1.nj.comcast.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 15:42:22 attila_lendvai [~attila_le@37.99.78.135] has joined #scheme 15:42:22 -!- attila_lendvai [~attila_le@37.99.78.135] has quit [Changing host] 15:42:22 attila_lendvai [~attila_le@unaffiliated/attila-lendvai/x-3126965] has joined #scheme 15:49:13 -!- ahinki [~chatzilla@212.99.10.150] has quit [Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.88 [Firefox 11.0/20120228210006]] 15:54:01 ijp [~user@host86-180-107-0.range86-180.btcentralplus.com] has joined #scheme 15:58:32 _schulte_ [~eschulte@c-174-56-50-60.hsd1.nm.comcast.net] has joined #scheme 16:09:57 -!- rostayob [~rostayob@dyn1195-50.wlan.ic.ac.uk] has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 16:12:40 rostayob [~rostayob@dyn1195-50.wlan.ic.ac.uk] has joined #scheme 16:19:58 kk` [~kk@unaffiliated/kk/x-5380134] has joined #scheme 16:21:44 -!- soveran [~soveran@186.19.214.247] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 16:37:21 bas_ [~bas@5352A3FB.cm-6-3c.dynamic.ziggo.nl] has joined #scheme 16:37:39 -!- bas_ is now known as Skola 16:40:30 With brain the size of a planet, I wouldn't be surprised if multiple personalities developed. 16:42:21 MichaelRaskin [~MichaelRa@3ad50e34.broker.freenet6.net] has joined #scheme 16:43:29 -!- hkBst [~marijn@gentoo/developer/hkbst] has quit [Quit: Konversation terminated!] 16:45:41 -!- pygospa [~Pygosceli@kiel-4dbedfe1.pool.mediaWays.net] has quit [Disconnected by services] 16:45:50 pygospa [~Pygosceli@kiel-5f77bae2.pool.mediaWays.net] has joined #scheme 16:48:25 pjb: nah, he's just a nice guy who's endlessly willing to share his erudition -- much like yourself on Usenet. 16:48:54 -!- bipt [~bpt@cpe-071-070-253-241.nc.res.rr.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 16:53:48 kk`` [~kk@77.107.164.131] has joined #scheme 16:57:19 -!- kk` [~kk@unaffiliated/kk/x-5380134] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 16:59:10 are there any tools to write parsers in racket (ideally a parser combinator library) 16:59:14 jonrafkind [~jon@crystalis.cs.utah.edu] has joined #scheme 17:00:48 rostayob: Riastradh wrote 'parscheme', there might be a racket version 17:01:55 tuubow_ [~adityavit@c-69-136-105-164.hsd1.nj.comcast.net] has joined #scheme 17:03:56 amoe: ok, I'll look at it. I might just implement it myself, I need to parse a really small language (markdown) 17:06:03 RomyRomy [~stickycak@cpe-69-203-115-155.nyc.res.rr.com] has joined #scheme 17:09:45 bipt [~bpt@cpe-071-070-253-241.nc.res.rr.com] has joined #scheme 17:16:06 IIRC rotty packaged parscheme for r6rs, so that should work on racket 17:17:04 rostayob: what do you plan to do with the markdown? I wrote a binding to the discount library that works nicely for the basic markdown->html thing 17:17:22 but maybe that takes the fun out of it :) 17:21:18 -!- kk`` [~kk@77.107.164.131] has quit [Quit: WeeChat 0.3.7] 17:21:47 -!- RomyRomy [~stickycak@cpe-69-203-115-155.nyc.res.rr.com] has quit [Quit: RomyRomy] 17:26:11 amoe: yeah it does :) 17:26:17 I just really like racket from what I've read of the guide 17:26:27 and I want to try to write something in it 17:26:42 that "something" is a static/dynamic blog generator 17:27:03 so you can generates pages statically when possible and still have dynamic pages 17:27:11 it's something I wanted to do for a while 17:29:04 Skola_ [~bas@5352A3FB.cm-6-3c.dynamic.ziggo.nl] has joined #scheme 17:29:21 maybe the only problem of racket is that there's too much stuff in it! 17:29:45 rostayob, a good problem to have! 17:32:20 and the documentation is awesome 17:33:08 -!- kephas [~pierre@AStrasbourg-551-1-85-111.w81-51.abo.wanadoo.fr] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 17:33:15 kephas [~pierre@AStrasbourg-551-1-81-101.w81-51.abo.wanadoo.fr] has joined #scheme 17:33:29 dnolen [aa95640a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.170.149.100.10] has joined #scheme 17:38:48 nowhere_man [~pierre@AStrasbourg-551-1-89-142.w81-49.abo.wanadoo.fr] has joined #scheme 17:39:13 -!- kephas [~pierre@AStrasbourg-551-1-81-101.w81-51.abo.wanadoo.fr] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 17:40:08 kk` [~kk@unaffiliated/kk/x-5380134] has joined #scheme 17:42:03 RomyRomy [~stickycak@cpe-69-203-115-155.nyc.res.rr.com] has joined #scheme 17:42:11 soveran [~soveran@186.19.214.247] has joined #scheme 17:45:33 -!- kpal [~kpal@janus-nat-128-240-225-120.ncl.ac.uk] has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 17:50:06 -!- nowhere_man [~pierre@AStrasbourg-551-1-89-142.w81-49.abo.wanadoo.fr] has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 17:56:29 nowhere_man [~pierre@AStrasbourg-551-1-133-159.w90-26.abo.wanadoo.fr] has joined #scheme 18:00:45 -!- RomyRomy [~stickycak@cpe-69-203-115-155.nyc.res.rr.com] has quit [Quit: RomyRomy] 18:01:16 -!- dnolen [aa95640a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.170.149.100.10] has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 18:01:40 -!- arcfide [~arcfide@c-71-201-30-15.hsd1.in.comcast.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 18:06:52 -!- samth [~samth@c-66-31-201-165.hsd1.ma.comcast.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 18:12:23 -!- cyphase [~cyphase@unaffiliated/cyphase] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 18:13:47 kudkudyak [~user@94.72.137.15] has joined #scheme 18:24:38 dotemacs [u801@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-vydwyyfkiemizmnz] has joined #scheme 18:25:07 -!- tomodo [~tomodo@gateway/tor-sasl/tomodo] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 18:27:09 rostayob: There's parser-tools. 18:27:16 rudybot: doc parser-tools 18:27:16 stamourv: your sandbox is ready 18:27:16 stamourv: not found in any library's documentation: parser-tools 18:27:37 rudybot: (require parser-tools) 18:27:37 stamourv: error: default-load-handler: cannot open input file: "/mnt/racket-5.2.1/collects/parser-tools/main.rkt" (No such file or directory; errno=2) 18:27:41 rudybot: (require parser-tools/lex) 18:27:42 stamourv: Done. 18:27:48 rudybot: doc lex 18:27:48 stamourv: not found in any library's documentation: lex 18:27:54 Hrm. 18:28:12 Anyway, searching the docs for `parser' works. 18:28:26 IIRC, there's also a parser combinator library on PLaneT. 18:29:22 http://planet.racket-lang.org/display.ss?package=parseq.plt&owner=bzlib 18:31:05 stamourv: I don't want a lexer & parser generator, but thanks 18:32:09 The last one is a parser combinator library. 18:32:13 -!- ijp [~user@host86-180-107-0.range86-180.btcentralplus.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 18:32:26 stamourv: yes I found that at some point 18:32:29 I'll look into it, thanks 18:39:23 -!- virl [~virl__@85-127-158-77.dynamic.xdsl-line.inode.at] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 18:41:37 -!- samth_away is now known as samth 18:48:29 -!- kampsun [~kasutaja@adsl22546.estpak.ee] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 18:56:26 -!- rostayob [~rostayob@dyn1195-50.wlan.ic.ac.uk] has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 18:57:24 ijp [~user@host86-149-109-182.range86-149.btcentralplus.com] has joined #scheme 19:17:47 -!- langmartin [~user@host-68-169-175-226.WISOLT2.epbfi.com] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 19:18:26 -!- wingo [~wingo@90.163.36.96] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 19:22:53 -!- pothos [~pothos@114-36-234-118.dynamic.hinet.net] has quit [Quit: leaving] 19:23:18 pothos [~pothos@114-36-234-118.dynamic.hinet.net] has joined #scheme 19:26:38 shadwick [~erik@host52-66.wifi.ubc.ca] has joined #scheme 19:39:25 -!- bfgun [~b_fin_g@r190-135-1-218.dialup.adsl.anteldata.net.uy] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 19:41:28 -!- gnuvince_ [~vince@ip-50-21-135-71.dsl.netrevolution.com] has quit [Quit: Lost terminal] 19:47:46 langmartin [~user@host-68-169-175-226.WISOLT2.epbfi.com] has joined #scheme 19:49:17 langmart` [~user@host-68-169-175-226.WISOLT2.epbfi.com] has joined #scheme 19:52:12 bfgun [~b_fin_g@r186-52-178-252.dialup.adsl.anteldata.net.uy] has joined #scheme 19:53:12 -!- omegacfx [~omegacfx@unaffiliated/omegacfx] has quit [Quit: Lost terminal] 19:57:30 -!- preflex [~preflex@unaffiliated/mauke/bot/preflex] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 19:57:46 preflex_ [~preflex@unaffiliated/mauke/bot/preflex] has joined #scheme 19:58:33 -!- preflex_ is now known as preflex 20:00:14 -!- langmart` [~user@host-68-169-175-226.WISOLT2.epbfi.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 20:00:23 -!- langmartin [~user@host-68-169-175-226.WISOLT2.epbfi.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 20:00:47 wingo [~wingo@90.164.198.39] has joined #scheme 20:14:16 -!- bfgun is now known as bfi 20:14:18 -!- bfi is now known as bfig 20:21:08 -!- snits [~snits@75-167-2-163.phnx.qwest.net] has quit [Quit: leaving] 23:57:56 ccl-logbot [~ccl-logbo@setf.clozure.com] has joined #scheme 23:57:56 23:57:56 -!- names: ccl-logbot airolson rostayob cyphase jonrafkind CampinSam Lajla rvchangue homie` dan64 preflex bfig pothos dotemacs kudkudyak nowhere_man soveran bipt pygospa MichaelRaskin Skola jrslepak GoKhlaYeh MrFahrenheit X-Scale masm surrounder ecraven rageous kniu dme dzhus Obfuscate sharkbird sporous jakky sontek forcer pchrist confab riverswain tessier em Euthydemus leppie sawgij eno dous jschuster r126f snarkyboojum Guest13811 acarrico araujo REPLeffect amoe 23:57:56 -!- names: gf3 Enoria bweaver githogori bzzbzz offby1 rudybot metasyntax|work LeoNerd DGASAU pjb stepnem yamanu saccadewrk tali713 FireFly Nisstyre karswell levi joast Nshag Arafangion Khisanth gabot YokYok danking samth stamourv felipe yosafbridge overflow_0f8b fds hypnocat Intensity asumu gejr pranq tokiya eMBee drdo acieroid _p4bl0 snorble_ foocraft Razz aehrisch moll eli gnomon Axioplase ada2358 jrslepak_neu mario-goulart ozzloy ineiros ray antoszka certainty 23:57:56 -!- names: dnm xian_ aking duncanm clog baggito Pepe_ weinholt fhd jaimef tizoc qu1j0t3 erg daedric_ fizzie foof lusory dwyer shardz kanru ec izz_ peterhil twem2 gffa zedstar brendyn dsp_ rotty_ aoh rotty cow-orker SHODAN Saeren Inode elly ve finnrobi z0d micro__ fbs SeanTAllen ski cmatei fgudin cataska muep_ zbigniew ft shachaf rapacity cky DerGuteMoritz poucet bill_h evhan devn PreciousMetals dsmith