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get it to not complain? 09:34:33 just don't write it 09:34:43 you can still run the code 09:37:54 superjudge [~superjudg@c83-250-198-227.bredband.comhem.se] has joined #scheme 09:41:37 Operaist2: You can have it return #f. 09:48:53 -!- realitygrill [~realitygr@76.226.195.76] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 09:48:58 realitygrill [~realitygr@76.226.195.76] has joined #scheme 09:49:35 Lajjla [~Lajla@2001:0:5ef5:79fd:2c94:2b2d:ae33:eb94] has joined #scheme 09:53:23 -!- Lajla [~Lajla@2001:0:5ef5:79fd:471:2b2d:ae33:eb94] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 10:06:42 chromaticwt [~user@71-222-135-74.albq.qwest.net] has joined #scheme 10:08:28 -!- chromaticwt [~user@71-222-135-74.albq.qwest.net] has left #scheme 10:18:58 -!- tuubow [~adityavit@c-24-0-148-151.hsd1.nj.comcast.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 10:24:52 kk` [~kk@unaffiliated/kk/x-5380134] has joined #scheme 10:28:47 arrix [~arrix@123.114.72.210] has joined #scheme 10:31:35 -!- kk` 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Thought it would mean apply 1 to a. 14:04:01 Well, that's maybe backwards terminology on your part 14:04:16 Like, in maths 1 + 2 can be seen as the application of + to 1 and 2 14:04:33 Didn't make the rules, just recite them like the brainless codemonkey that I am. 14:04:58 there are no variables assignment expressions like the lisp example. 14:05:08 In order to program, one must feel the computer, one must think like a computer, one must relenquish all common sense and just brainlessly do as you are told, especially whjen you work for microsoft or Blizzard. 14:05:21 JohnnyL, what do you mean? 14:05:38 I say particularly what I mean. 14:05:39 i wouldnt call thinking in scheme thinking like a computer 14:07:11 Cloud kingdom is definitely not a map that is bad for Protoss versus Terran 14:07:34 JohnnyL: for example, assuming an operator (inc! i) == (set! i (+ 1 i)), (let ((i 1)) (expt (inc! i) (expt (inc! i) (inc! i)))) is not defined in scheme. 14:08:43 ltr would enforce left-to-right evaluation of function arguments. 14:10:36 you would have to have (inc! i) == (begin (set! i (+ 1 i)) i) 14:10:48 inc! too can be written as a macro. 14:14:36 So can +, hardly a good idea. 14:14:38 But then again 14:14:40 I am not to judge. 14:14:53 Seriously though, Cloud Kingdom is definitely not a map that is bad for Protoss versus Terran. 14:15:21 Lajjla: I mean, you can write inc! as a macro. You cannot write it as a function. So in languages lacking macros, you cannot write inc!. 14:16:11 Well, not as a function if you don't have call by reference. 14:16:22 Why can't you write inc! as a function? 14:16:31 Ohh 14:16:36 Yeah yeah 14:16:38 I get what you're doing 14:16:44 I misread 14:16:54 I am studyingf the map geography of Cloud Kingdom, pray pardon 14:18:27 Lajjla: well here we talk about scheme. Goto #cloud-kingdom. 14:18:28 -!- arrix [~arrix@123.114.72.210] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 14:18:51 *cough* (call/cc cloud-kingdom) *cough* 14:20:45 Lajjla: what's the result when you apply the blizzard-map function to Protoss and Terran? 14:21:06 hopfrog [~bill@76.73.221.195] has joined #scheme 14:21:07 Probably 3 minute long games 14:21:22 Truth be told, close position PvT was pretty decent, PvZ and TvZ is where it went wrong 14:22:25 ha! 14:22:33 a strategy for getting women with diamonds. 14:22:47 if the result is "probably" then it would be cool to use it as a random generator 14:22:51 a strategy for getting women diamonds. 14:22:53 of some sort 14:23:09 no, the result is not probably in that way, I mean to say I'm not quite sure. 14:23:38 Besides, GSL maps had their problems too, people can criticize Blizzard's maps for creating stale games but they weren't as horribly imbalanced as GSL maps except for Kulas Ravine maybe. 14:23:45 Crossfire has like 30% PvZ 14:23:56 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