00:00:28 rudybot: (define test (let ((mem 0)) (set! mem (+ mem (call/cc (ambda (cont) (set! callback cont) 1)))) (cons mem mem)))) 00:00:28 Aune: so we use it like: (call/cc (lambda (k) (prod l 1 k))) 00:01:10 rudybot: (define test (let ((mem 0)) (set! mem (+ mem (call/cc (lambda (cont) (set! callback cont) 1)))) (cons mem mem)))) 00:01:10 Aune: Mostly because I ran into a problem where I wanted deep (non-tail) recursion, and Python doesn't let you do that except by mutilating the code to manually manage the stack. Before then, my Python stuff had always been 'pretty'. I also ran into a actual /need/ for closures in part of a program, though it so happened Python's lambda did fine. 00:02:06 rudybot: (define test (let ((mem 0)) (set! mem (+ mem (call/cc (lambda (cont) (set! callback cont) 1)))) (cons mem mem))) 00:02:06 Aune: Done. 00:02:23 rudybot: test 00:02:23 Aune: ; Value: (1 . 1) 00:02:38 rudybot: (callback 2) 00:02:38 Aune: Done. 00:02:47 rudybot: (callback 2) 00:02:47 Aune: Done. 00:03:01 rudybot: (define test (let ((mem 0)) (set! mem (+ mem (call/cc (lambda (cont) (set! callback cont) 1)))) (display (cons mem mem)))) 00:03:01 Aune: ; stdout: "(1 . 1)" 00:03:06 rudybot: test 00:03:06 Aune: Done. 00:03:12 rudybot: (callback 2) 00:03:12 Aune: ; stdout: "(2 . 2)" 00:03:16 rudybot: (callback 2) 00:03:16 Aune: ; stdout: "(2 . 2)" 00:03:31 -!- phax [~phax@unaffiliated/phax] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 00:04:51 confab [~win7@public-nat2.arc.losrios.edu] has joined #scheme 00:05:13 So, if I use call/cc this way with (set! mem (call/cc ...)), then the local variable mem will be 0 each time since the "call tree" is saved? 00:05:54 asumu, is that correct? ^ 00:06:02 -!- tomodo [~tomodo@gateway/tor-sasl/tomodo] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 00:07:01 tomodo [~tomodo@gateway/tor-sasl/tomodo] has joined #scheme 00:07:41 RomyRomy [~stickycak@cpe-69-203-115-155.nyc.res.rr.com] has joined #scheme 00:08:00 -!- RomyRomy [~stickycak@cpe-69-203-115-155.nyc.res.rr.com] has quit [Client Quit] 00:08:36 -!- tomodo [~tomodo@gateway/tor-sasl/tomodo] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 00:09:02 -!- dzhus [~sphinx@176.14.94.92] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 00:10:10 asumu, so when we call a continuation it reifies (might be using that word wrong) a copy of the branch in the environment diagram in which the continuation was defined, and move the "program counter" to the line following the return from call/cc? 00:10:53 thus continuing the program from that point. 00:11:52 restoring all global values to the value they had at the point of the initial call to call/cc 00:12:05 Or am I horribly mistaken again? 00:13:31 -!- tuubow [~adityavit@NYUFGA-WLESSAUTHCLIENTS-03.NATPOOL.NYU.EDU] has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 00:16:29 tomodo [~tomodo@gateway/tor-sasl/tomodo] has joined #scheme 00:16:33 -!- ijp``` is now known as ijp 00:18:16 -!- tomodo [~tomodo@gateway/tor-sasl/tomodo] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 00:18:17 -!- datkin [~datkin@cpe-74-73-237-252.nyc.res.rr.com] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 00:19:01 -!- turbofail [~user@c-107-3-149-149.hsd1.ca.comcast.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 00:20:08 copumpkin [~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin] has joined #scheme 00:20:51 jao [~user@pdpc/supporter/professional/jao] has joined #scheme 00:24:50 -!- jao [~user@pdpc/supporter/professional/jao] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 00:28:05 tomodo [~tomodo@gateway/tor-sasl/tomodo] has joined #scheme 00:31:17 -!- soveran [~soveran@186.19.214.247] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 00:32:25 -!- chromaticwt [~user@71-222-151-95.albq.qwest.net] has quit [Quit: ERC Version 5.3 (IRC client for Emacs)] 00:41:48 EmmanuelOga [~emmanuel@host155.201-253-134.telecom.net.ar] has joined #scheme 00:42:12 -!- _p4bl0 [~user@berthold.shebang.ws] has quit [Read error: Operation timed out] 00:42:36 -!- acieroid [~acieroid@wtf.awesom.eu] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 00:43:18 _p4bl0 [~user@berthold.shebang.ws] has joined #scheme 00:45:07 -!- sawjig [~sawjig@gateway/tor-sasl/sawjig] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 00:45:41 -!- drdo [~drdo@ling0.drdo.eu] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 00:46:24 sawjig [~sawjig@gateway/tor-sasl/sawjig] has joined #scheme 00:47:58 -!- Enoria [~Enoria@jte.kidradd.org] has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 00:48:24 _p4bl0` [~user@berthold.shebang.ws] has joined #scheme 00:49:04 acieroid [~acieroid@wtf.awesom.eu] has joined #scheme 00:49:26 -!- _p4bl0 [~user@berthold.shebang.ws] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 00:51:13 drdo [~drdo@ling0.drdo.eu] has joined #scheme 00:56:13 Lajjla [~Lajla@2001:0:5ef5:79fd:1865:2b2d:ae33:eb94] has joined #scheme 00:58:46 -!- tomodo [~tomodo@gateway/tor-sasl/tomodo] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 01:00:03 -!- Lajla [~Lajla@2001:0:5ef5:79fd:1829:2b2d:ae33:eb94] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 01:02:10 tomodo [~tomodo@gateway/tor-sasl/tomodo] has joined #scheme 01:03:12 chromaticwt: Oh, it does now? Cool; a few years ago it hadn't yet. 01:03:28 jao [~user@pdpc/supporter/professional/jao] has joined #scheme 01:03:29 Quick survey: Reasoned Schemer vs. Art of Prolog? 01:03:46 Some say the latter is as deep and SICP. 01:03:53 klutometis: i need a copy of the former. 01:03:55 :| 01:03:57 APPLES vs ORANGES 01:04:02 go 01:05:43 tomodo: Heh; this guy hypothesized that "[TAoP] is a far better book for learning the same material [as RS]:" . 01:05:59 I suspected they might be orthogonal; then again: unification, reification, &c. 01:06:17 bizarre 01:06:38 you need both books 01:06:45 apples are clearly superior 01:07:26 qu1j0t3: I've tried to torrent it in vain; resorted to the Kindle store. Feels good, actually, to support the Friedman-Byrd-Kiselyov triumvirate with a few pico-dollars (or whatever their cut is). 01:07:43 klutometis: oooh it's on the kindle store?! 01:07:49 *qu1j0t3* makes a note to check this 01:07:52 klutometis: thanks 01:08:31 qu1j0t3: Yeah; but the transcription to Kindle is a little weird: instead of transcribing the text, it looks as though it's using images (because of the funky layout, I imagine). 01:08:47 This means that the text is occasionally blurry (especially the footnotes). 01:09:11 *klutometis* tries to decipher: "Is that an x or a w? Shit." 01:13:13 Aune: That's not quite correct. 01:13:33 ok? 01:13:51 Aune: The store (i.e., memory) is separate from control flow, so the contents of the memory pointed to by `mem` will be whatever it is globally each time you call the continuation. 01:14:08 You can see this with a weird enough example. For example... 01:14:38 rudybot: (define r #f) (define mem 0) 01:14:38 asumu: this and much more information is available at C-h f load-theme RET 01:14:43 chromaticwt [~user@71-222-151-95.albq.qwest.net] has joined #scheme 01:14:44 rudybot: (define r #f) 01:14:44 asumu: Done. 01:14:48 rudybot: (define mem 0) 01:14:48 asumu: Done. 01:14:56 rudybot: (call/cc (lambda (k) ((lambda (x) (begin (displayln mem) (set! mem (+ 1 x)))) (call/cc (lambda (k1) (set! r k1) (k 0)))))) 01:14:56 asumu: ; Value: 0 01:15:12 rudybot: (r 1) 01:15:12 asumu: ; stdout: "0\n" 01:15:27 rudybot: (set! mem 50) 01:15:28 asumu: Done. 01:15:31 rudybot: (r 1) 01:15:31 asumu: ; stdout: "50\n" 01:15:35 Aune: ^ see 01:16:12 (there may be a simpler example, but here I'm saving a continuation in `r` that will print `mem` then increment it) 01:16:17 Ok, but does the set! mem (+ 1 x) not do what I expect then? 01:16:38 -!- bipt [~bpt@cpe-071-070-253-241.nc.res.rr.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 01:16:49 That'll do what you expect, but don't expect that if you reference the contents of `mem`. 01:17:22 Huh? 01:17:49 I'm saying that'll work fine because (+ 1 x) does not depend on the value in `mem`. 01:18:00 -!- rostayob [~rostayob@5add3a82.bb.sky.com] has quit [Quit: WeeChat 0.3.5] 01:18:10 But if you do, say, (set! mem (+ 1 mem)) then `mem` is not restored to its original value when you restore the continuation. 01:18:24 Ok. 01:18:36 rudybot: (define mem 0) 01:18:36 Aune: Done. 01:18:48 rudybot: (define callback #f) 01:18:48 Aune: Done. 01:19:55 (define test (set! mem (+ mem (call/cc lambda (cont) (set! callback cont) 1))))) 01:20:07 rudybot: (define test (set! mem (+ mem (call/cc lambda (cont) (set! callback cont) 1))))) 01:20:07 Aune: (define test (set! mem (+ mem (call/cc lambda (cont) (set! callback cont) 1))))) 01:20:32 rudybot: (define test (set! mem (+ mem (call/cc (lambda (cont) (set! callback cont) 1))))) 01:20:33 Aune: Done. 01:20:43 rudybot: mem 01:20:43 Aune: ; Value: 1 01:20:48 test 01:20:59 rudybot: test 01:20:59 Aune: Done. 01:21:10 rudybot: (callback 10) 01:21:11 Aune: Done. 01:21:22 rudybot: mem 01:21:22 Aune: ; Value: 10 01:21:26 chromaticwt0 [~user@71-222-151-95.albq.qwest.net] has joined #scheme 01:21:31 rudybot: (callback 10) 01:21:32 Aune: Done. 01:21:33 rudybot: mem 01:21:33 Aune: ; Value: 10 01:21:48 asumu, What is happening here? 01:23:50 asumu, I expect mem to grow by num each time i call (callback num), but obviously Im mistaken 01:28:31 Aune: That's because the `mem` is evaluated to 0 already by the time you capture the continuation. 01:28:48 That's why in my earlier example I used two call/ccs. 01:28:56 (and lambda) 01:29:02 (define mem 0) 01:29:05 rudybot: (define mem 0) 01:29:06 tomodo: your sandbox is ready 01:29:06 tomodo: Done. 01:29:12 rudybot: (define callback #f) 01:29:13 tomodo: Done. 01:29:18 rudybot: (define test (set! mem ((let ((mem 7)) (+ mem (call/cc lambda (cont) (set! callback cont) 1)))))) 01:29:19 tomodo: error: #:1:55: lambda: bad syntax in: lambda 01:29:25 Ok. Is the evaluation order of the arguments well defined? 01:29:55 I noticed it works as intended if I the arguments change place. 01:30:39 (define test (set! mem ((let ((mem 7)) (+ mem (call/cc (lambda (cont) (set! callback cont) 1))))))) 01:30:40 rudybot: (define test (set! mem ((let ((mem 7)) (+ mem (call/cc (lambda (cont) (set! callback cont) 1))))))) 01:30:41 tomodo: error: procedure application: expected procedure, given: 8 (no arguments) 01:30:51 soveran [~soveran@186.19.214.247] has joined #scheme 01:31:06 rudybot: (define test (set! mem (let ((mem 7)) (+ mem (call/cc (lambda (cont) (set! callback cont) 1)))))) 01:31:06 rostayob [~rostayob@5add3a82.bb.sky.com] has joined #scheme 01:31:07 tomodo: Done. 01:31:15 rudybot: mem 01:31:16 tomodo: ; Value: 8 01:31:17 rudybot: (callback 10) 01:31:18 tomodo: Done. 01:31:20 rudybot: mem 01:31:21 tomodo: ; Value: 17 01:31:26 rudybot: (callback 5) 01:31:27 tomodo: Done. 01:31:28 rudybot: mem 01:31:29 tomodo: ; Value: 12 01:31:37 maybe this explain helps 01:31:43 realitygrill_ [~realitygr@adsl-76-226-139-187.dsl.sfldmi.sbcglobal.net] has joined #scheme 01:31:49 -!- jonrafkind [~jon@crystalis.cs.utah.edu] has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 01:33:15 tomodo: yeah, and if you let mem and call/cc change place in the adition it works as expected. So it is that mem was fetched before (call/cc ..) was evaluated. 01:33:21 the continuation "cont" holds the value mem was already because the + is already called 01:33:30 yes 01:34:31 -!- realitygrill [~realitygr@76.226.233.110] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 01:34:31 -!- realitygrill_ is now known as realitygrill 01:34:51 asumu, tomodo, thanks for the help. 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A pair is not necessarily a list. 05:50:30 sexcrazedarmadil: a list is either () or a pair whose cdr is a list. 05:50:31 In this case, (1 . 2) is not a proper list. 05:50:53 oh cool. so if i want to extend a list, what command would i use?? 05:51:04 sexcrazedarmadil: (cons element list) 05:51:07 sexcrazedarmadil: You use cons, but make sure that it evenually ends with (). 05:51:10 sexcrazedarmadil: go read r5rs. 05:51:20 i.e., a list with 1 and 2 would be (cons 1 (cons 2 '())). 05:51:25 sexcrazedarmadil: http://www.schemers.org/Documents/Standards/R5RS/HTML/r5rs-Z-H-2.htm 05:51:38 That list, (1 2), is the same as (1 . (2 . ())). 06:01:04 -!- tuubow [~adityavit@c-69-136-105-164.hsd1.nj.comcast.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 06:03:07 Nisstyre: MIT has SRFI 1 support, which includes set operations on lists. Of course, they are slow. 06:03:31 Lajjla [~Lajla@2001:0:5ef5:79fd:388e:2b2d:ae33:eb94] has joined #scheme 06:04:09 jeapostrophe [~jay@69.169.141.110.provo.static.broadweavenetworks.net] has joined #scheme 06:04:33 -!- Lajla [~Lajla@2001:0:5ef5:79fd:2065:2b2d:ae33:eb94] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 06:10:31 jewel [~jewel@196-210-187-115.dynamic.isadsl.co.za] has joined #scheme 06:16:05 if i had a list of (1,2,3) andi want to add 4 at the end, what do i do? 06:16:49 (append '(1 2 3) '(4)) 06:18:51 tuubow [~adityavit@c-69-136-105-164.hsd1.nj.comcast.net] has joined #scheme 06:19:08 -!- jeapostrophe [~jay@69.169.141.110.provo.static.broadweavenetworks.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 06:24:36 MichaelRaskin [~MichaelRa@3ad50e34.broker.freenet6.net] has joined #scheme 06:25:18 -!- jao [~user@pdpc/supporter/professional/jao] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 06:27:14 -!- jonrafkind [~jon@jonr5.dsl.xmission.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 06:39:46 -!- EmmanuelOga 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the RDNS hostname. :-) 18:20:21 lol 18:20:56 i was doing something related that you might like 18:22:46 so the lambda function fixes a value right? 18:23:04 -!- omegacfx [~omegacfx@unaffiliated/omegacfx] has left #scheme 18:23:09 so the function as parameter will not be evaluated multiple times 18:23:59 overflow_0f8b: right, it's evaluated before binding 18:24:13 overflow_0f8b: this is exploited by e.g. LET 18:25:50 i am currently exploiting C 18:27:34 http://pastebin.com/HDn2dV5y 18:30:47 chromaticwt [~user@71-222-151-95.albq.qwest.net] has joined #scheme 18:33:18 -!- jao [~user@pdpc/supporter/professional/jao] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 18:33:53 sup overflow_0f8b 18:34:03 hey Nisstyre, you here? 18:34:09 yes 18:34:12 I am a Schemer 18:34:13 peek the C thing i pasted ;>> 18:34:41 wtf 18:35:23 it came naturally 18:35:34 then when i learned about scheme, i named it lambda 18:35:46 CampinSam [~CampinSam@24-176-98-217.dhcp.jcsn.tn.charter.com] has joined #scheme 18:36:57 Lol. 18:37:29 is there a better way of executing MIT/GNU Scheme files than scheme < source.scm in a shell script? 18:38:12 Nisstyre << what is your problem with that? 18:38:20 that's what I was wondering 18:38:32 overflow_0f8b: can't put #!/usr/bin/scheme at the top of the file and just chmod +x it and run it 18:38:42 jewel [~jewel@196-210-187-115.dynamic.isadsl.co.za] has joined #scheme 18:38:42 Nisstyre: did you try it? 18:38:46 qu1j0t3: yes 18:38:48 did not work 18:39:00 Nisstyre: did you also check options to scheme that might let you specify a script filename? 18:39:03 Nisstyre: e.g. csi -s ... 18:39:25 qu1j0t3: doesn't work with MIT/GNU Scheme 18:39:32 Nisstyre: there is no such option? 18:39:40 Nisstyre: did you check scheme --help or man scheme ? 18:39:47 Warning: Unhandled command line options: ("-s" 18:39:50 Nisstyre: did you check scheme --help or man scheme ? 18:39:54 guessing FTL 18:39:55 yes 18:39:56 I did 18:40:00 and there's no such option 18:40:03 nope 18:40:15 odd. 18:40:56 Nisstyre: yes there is 18:40:59 qu1j0t3: let me paste the output of scheme --help for you 18:41:06 Nisstyre: I'm reading the manual 18:41:19 http://ideone.com/YotyP 18:41:24 and there is such an option. 18:41:38 -!- chromaticwt [~user@71-222-151-95.albq.qwest.net] has quit [Quit: ERC Version 5.3 (IRC client for Emacs)] 18:41:55 chromaticwt [~user@71-222-151-95.albq.qwest.net] has joined #scheme 18:42:08 adu [~ajr@pool-72-83-26-98.washdc.fios.verizon.net] has joined #scheme 18:42:48 Lajla [~Lajla@2001:0:5ef5:79fd:1066:2b2d:ae33:eb94] has joined #scheme 18:43:06 Nisstyre: did you try --load [ manual says -load, but w/e ] 18:43:16 qu1j0t3: that works but it opens the repl 18:43:23 :| 18:43:44 I guess there's no way to do this without having the repl loaded 18:44:21 Nisstyre: this might help http://blogs.operationaldynamics.com/andrew/software/build-systems/hash-bang 18:44:21 http://tinyurl.com/7fem9dz 18:46:49 -!- adu [~ajr@pool-72-83-26-98.washdc.fios.verizon.net] has quit 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this looks nice. 18:54:41 overflow_0f8b: I think you are looking for #pythin or #ruby or #javascript ;p 18:54:41 overflow_0f8b: wow, brilliant. how about some {}'s and []'s too 18:54:44 this is like a list (foo a b c) 18:54:49 leppie: #gavino 18:54:58 oh god... 18:55:11 rudybot: eval `((+ 2 3) is ,(+ 2 3)) 18:55:11 hm, rudybot isn't answering 18:55:11 that evaluates to 18:55:11 ((+ 2 3) is 5) 18:55:11 ski: your scheme sandbox is ready 18:55:11 anyway 18:55:12 ski: ; Value: ((+ 2 3) is 5) 18:55:37 mgsk [~Mark@iammark.us] has joined #scheme 18:55:38 ski: you are lagging :p 18:55:44 Qworkescence [~quad@unaffiliated/quadrescence] has joined #scheme 18:55:47 *ski* wonders why suddenly 14 messages came in a blur .. network lag, probably 18:55:54 my troll detectors for #scheme went off 18:56:03 o hi 18:56:23 wouldn't scheme be better if it was more like c? 18:56:33 mgsk: yes. 18:56:40 /nick Schevago 18:57:09 i jk 18:57:13 scheme would also be better without macros, that just confuses everyone 18:57:16 mgsk: but didn't you hear about "worse is better"? 18:57:59 Do scheme guys ever get jobs? You're always applying. 18:58:05 Qworkescence: remember? xD 18:58:10 No, they never get any job. 18:58:10 wtf is up with this channel 18:58:21 mgsk, h a h a 18:58:23 pjb: I'm just joking, hombre. 18:58:36 mgsk, i'll quote you on that 18:58:51 *overflow_0f8b* offers trollsandwiches to guys hanging around 19:01:32 http://twitter.com/#!/PLT_Borat/status/171754444399198209 19:03:07 wingo: hehe 19:05:36 i don't get it :/ 19:06:42 (hm, stephenjudkins was wondering about the state of JS re Guile) 19:06:55 maybe the fact that we don't get it is the joke 19:07:10 the in joke is on us! 19:07:11 i hate it when that happens 19:08:46 so it's a Does A Fish Know It's Wet kind of thing 19:08:46 *ski* . o O ( "Is take lot of PL implementation experience to see why Schemers is say resound NO to EVERYTHING" :) 19:09:47 http://twitter.com/#!/PLT_Borat/status/174585616502231040 <-- LOL 19:13:49 -!- tuubow [~adityavit@c-69-136-105-164.hsd1.nj.comcast.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 19:19:57 jakky 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tcleval: That kind of proceduce is called a finalizer. 20:38:32 tcleval: You should then Google for "gambit finalizer" and see if any useful hits come up. 20:38:48 thx cky that will help 20:38:52 :-) 20:39:38 dme [~dme@host213-120-144-161.in-addr.btopenworld.com] has joined #scheme 20:43:57 -!- yosafbridge [~yosafbrid@li125-242.members.linode.com] has quit [Quit: ERC Version 5.3 (IRC client for Emacs)] 20:44:18 Nisstyre [~yours@c-208-90-102-250.netflash.net] has joined #scheme 20:45:36 yey Nisstyre 20:45:43 installed linux ? 20:46:13 -!- woonie [~woonie@nusnet-228-5.dynip.nus.edu.sg] has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 20:49:20 -!- Nisstyre [~yours@c-208-90-102-250.netflash.net] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 20:50:02 yosafbridge [~yosafbrid@li125-242.members.linode.com] has joined #scheme 20:51:18 ASau [~user@176.14.250.151] has joined #scheme 20:51:49 Nisstyre [~yours@c-208-90-102-250.netflash.net] has joined #scheme 20:53:45 -!- tcleval [~funnyguy@186.213.45.84] has left #scheme 20:56:08 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