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otakutomo [~otakutomo@KD027083117212.ppp-bb.dion.ne.jp] has joined #scheme 15:22:29 -!- otakutomo [~otakutomo@KD027083117212.ppp-bb.dion.ne.jp] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 15:22:47 otakutomo [~otakutomo@KD027083117212.ppp-bb.dion.ne.jp] has joined #scheme 15:23:40 -!- snizzo [~Claudio@host180-31-dynamic.21-79-r.retail.telecomitalia.it] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 15:28:57 kenjin2201 [~kenjin@211.108.126.177] has joined #scheme 15:29:57 Hello, I find it very hard to use macro in sheme(hygienic macro) than in Common Lisp. Is it possible to write all macros that can be defined in Common lisp also in Scheme? 15:37:53 Blkt [~user@82.84.130.206] has joined #scheme 15:44:08 gravicappa [~gravicapp@ppp91-77-188-223.pppoe.mtu-net.ru] has joined #scheme 15:45:05 annodomini [~lambda@c-76-23-156-75.hsd1.ma.comcast.net] has joined #scheme 15:45:05 -!- annodomini [~lambda@c-76-23-156-75.hsd1.ma.comcast.net] has quit [Changing host] 15:45:05 annodomini [~lambda@wikipedia/lambda] has joined #scheme 15:47:10 soveran [~soveran@186.18.207.205] has joined #scheme 15:47:20 stis [~stis@1-1-1-39a.veo.vs.bostream.se] has joined #scheme 15:48:44 kenjin2201: Unlike Common Lisp, Scheme emphasizes code rewriting and transformation of syntax. You might consider looking into richer macro facilities in Scheme beyond those in R5RS. For example, look at SRFI-72. 15:49:10 ( http://srfi.schemers.org/srfi-72/srfi-72.html ) 15:50:15 it depends which scheme. R5RS no. R6RS probably. 15:50:26 -!- Blkt [~user@82.84.130.206] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 15:52:33 -!- samth_away is now known as samth 15:55:44 -!- noam [~noam@46.120.51.147] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 15:57:17 rumina [~mikko@88-148-145-93.bb.dnainternet.fi] has joined #scheme 16:00:08 So which implementation has well documented OpenGL/SDL bindings? 16:01:49 rumina: see here in racket: http://pre.racket-lang.org/docs/html/sgl/main.html?q=gl 16:01:56 lbc [~quassel@1908ds1-aboes.0.fullrate.dk] has joined #scheme 16:02:41 samth: thank you 16:03:58 -!- soveran [~soveran@186.18.207.205] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 16:11:20 hba [~hba@187.171.204.21] has joined #scheme 16:12:04 snizzo [~Claudio@2.45.3.152] has joined #scheme 16:12:35 bombshelter13b [~bombshelt@76-10-149-209.dsl.teksavvy.com] has joined #scheme 16:15:34 -!- fschwidom [~fschwidom@46.115.22.225] has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 16:15:50 fschwidom [~fschwidom@46.115.32.161] has joined #scheme 16:16:42 X-Scale` [email@sgi-ultra64.broker.freenet6.net] has joined #scheme 16:18:37 -!- X-Scale [email@sgi-ultra64.broker.freenet6.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 16:31:32 ijp` [~user@host31-52-140-230.range31-52.btcentralplus.com] has joined #scheme 16:33:04 -!- ijp [~user@host86-178-196-123.range86-178.btcentralplus.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 16:33:18 -!- ijp` is now known as ijp 16:33:58 drdo [~drdo@85.207.54.77.rev.vodafone.pt] has joined #scheme 16:41:04 -!- snizzo [~Claudio@2.45.3.152] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 16:47:46 freakazoid [~seanl@c-67-164-106-36.hsd1.ca.comcast.net] has joined #scheme 16:48:30 pandeiro [~pandeiro@177.32.219.10] has joined #scheme 16:48:39 -!- wbooze [~levgue@xdsl-78-35-137-217.netcologne.de] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 16:48:39 -!- homie [~levgue@xdsl-78-35-137-217.netcologne.de] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 16:48:46 alaricsp: the CBA file server sounds fun! 16:48:54 did you implement the hashing in Scheme? 16:49:39 wbooze [~levgue@xdsl-78-35-137-217.netcologne.de] has joined #scheme 16:50:00 homie [~levgue@xdsl-78-35-137-217.netcologne.de] has joined #scheme 16:52:50 -!- homie [~levgue@xdsl-78-35-137-217.netcologne.de] has quit [Client Quit] 16:53:02 -!- wbooze [~levgue@xdsl-78-35-137-217.netcologne.de] has quit [Client Quit] 16:55:37 -!- rumina [~mikko@88-148-145-93.bb.dnainternet.fi] has left #scheme 16:57:57 wingo: Chicken has a bunch of hashing eggs, but I think they just FFI in C code! 16:58:15 cool 16:58:16 wbooze [~levgue@xdsl-78-35-137-217.netcologne.de] has joined #scheme 16:58:27 i think that's a reasonable strategy, fwiw, just curious :) 16:58:28 homie [~levgue@xdsl-78-35-137-217.netcologne.de] has joined #scheme 16:58:36 -!- annodomini [~lambda@wikipedia/lambda] has quit [Quit: annodomini] 17:00:34 dnolen [~davidnole@cpe-98-14-92-234.nyc.res.rr.com] has joined #scheme 17:08:45 phax [~phax@unaffiliated/phax] has joined #scheme 17:21:09 -!- keenbug [~daniel@p4FDB7E2F.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 17:29:09 -!- teiresias [~teiresias@archlinux/trusteduser/teiresias] has quit [Quit: Lost terminal] 17:30:34 teiresias [~teiresias@archlinux/trusteduser/teiresias] has joined #scheme 17:35:25 -!- teiresias [~teiresias@archlinux/trusteduser/teiresias] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 17:38:01 teiresias [~teiresias@archlinux/trusteduser/teiresias] has joined #scheme 17:45:11 -!- faction [~Dean313@cpe-173-173-125-98.satx.res.rr.com] has quit [] 18:02:05 -!- bombshelter13b [~bombshelt@76-10-149-209.dsl.teksavvy.com] has quit [Quit: If only your veins were filled with oil, the world would rush to your rescue!] 18:02:40 -!- phax [~phax@unaffiliated/phax] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 18:05:14 realitygrill [~realitygr@76.226.204.209] has joined #scheme 18:16:36 Sysop_fb [~bleh@108-66-160-34.lightspeed.spfdmo.sbcglobal.net] has joined #scheme 18:16:50 keenbug [~daniel@p5B2DB015.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #scheme 18:17:46 -!- kenjin2201 [~kenjin@211.108.126.177] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 18:18:23 -!- drdo [~drdo@85.207.54.77.rev.vodafone.pt] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 18:19:07 drdo [~drdo@85.207.54.77.rev.vodafone.pt] has joined #scheme 18:21:26 soveran [~soveran@186.18.207.205] has joined #scheme 18:22:09 -!- pandeiro [~pandeiro@177.32.219.10] has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 18:31:11 -!- pierreghz_ [~pierreghz@cust-103-104-111-94.dyn.as47377.net] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 18:36:29 -!- freakazoid [~seanl@c-67-164-106-36.hsd1.ca.comcast.net] has quit [Quit: Computer has gone to sleep.] 18:36:35 pandeiro [~pandeiro@177.32.219.10] has joined #scheme 18:37:27 -!- soveran [~soveran@186.18.207.205] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 18:41:35 -!- aoh [~aki@adsl-99-115.netplaza.fi] has quit [Ping timeout: 258 seconds] 18:43:19 jonrafkind [~jon@jonr5.dsl.xmission.com] has joined #scheme 18:43:21 aoh [~aki@adsl-99-115.netplaza.fi] has joined #scheme 18:47:21 freakazoid [~seanl@c-67-164-106-36.hsd1.ca.comcast.net] has joined #scheme 18:47:43 -!- aoh [~aki@adsl-99-115.netplaza.fi] has quit [Ping timeout: 258 seconds] 18:48:27 -!- pandeiro [~pandeiro@177.32.219.10] has quit [Quit: Out of quarters] 18:58:11 choas [~lars@p4FDC5AD1.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #scheme 19:06:11 -!- homie [~levgue@xdsl-78-35-137-217.netcologne.de] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 19:07:43 homie [~levgue@xdsl-78-35-137-217.netcologne.de] has joined #scheme 19:12:55 -!- snarkyboojum_ is now known as snarkyboojum 19:17:28 -!- keenbug [~daniel@p5B2DB015.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 19:20:23 -!- choas [~lars@p4FDC5AD1.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 19:22:18 -!- Pepe__ is now known as Pepe_ 19:30:27 -!- wingo [~wingo@90.164.198.39] has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 19:32:17 -!- bytbox [~s@129.2.129.230] has quit [Quit: Lost terminal] 19:42:09 zmv [~zmv@187.38.16.11] has joined #scheme 19:42:45 samth_ [~samth@nomad.ccs.neu.edu] has joined #scheme 19:47:28 -!- samth_ [~samth@nomad.ccs.neu.edu] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 19:50:53 keenbug [~daniel@p4FDB7E2F.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #scheme 19:58:17 noam [~noam@46.120.51.147] has joined #scheme 20:15:40 wisey [~Steven@host31-52-156-131.range31-52.btcentralplus.com] has joined #scheme 20:31:43 -!- freakazoid [~seanl@c-67-164-106-36.hsd1.ca.comcast.net] has quit [Quit: Computer has gone to sleep.] 20:32:09 annihilator [~rff@ip72-207-248-18.br.br.cox.net] has joined #scheme 20:32:10 -!- rff [~rff@ip72-207-248-18.br.br.cox.net] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 20:44:31 amgarchIn9 [~amgarchin@p4FD61395.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #scheme 20:44:48 Hi! How comes a reference to *eof* in this code retuns 'undefined once? http://pastebin.com/W0kapVXJ I dont seem to understand how set! works. 20:46:34 aoh [~aki@adsl-99-115.netplaza.fi] has joined #scheme 20:46:57 erider [~chatzilla@unaffiliated/erider] has joined #scheme 20:50:05 this logic looks a bit convoluted (and non functional) to me. 20:50:21 instead of having one-if-then-the-other, can you write this in terms of values 20:50:56 you're passing things around those variable bindings and it complicates things (i think) 20:51:33 you have to have a "state"( 20:51:43 h 20:51:45 hm 20:51:54 yes, but i don't think you need the sequential if's 20:51:54 *in any "read" implementation 21:00:11 this returns 2: (let ((x 1)) (set! x 2) x) 21:01:34 amgarchIn9: *eof* doesn't get set! until the first time *buf* is null, _and_ line returns an *eof*. So, if you get a null *buf*, but you actually read a line, then you will get 'undefined. 21:01:57 er, the second *eof* should be (eof-object) 21:02:22 you may be right, an empty line is not eof, but the read buffer is still empty. Logic is broken 21:03:54 thanks! 21:04:35 snizzo [~Claudio@host81-1-dynamic.50-79-r.retail.telecomitalia.it] has joined #scheme 21:13:08 bytbox [~s@129.2.129.228] has joined #scheme 21:14:15 -!- ahinki [~chatzilla@AAmiens-551-1-135-118.w86-207.abo.wanadoo.fr] has quit [Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.87 [Firefox 7.0.1/20110928224103]] 21:34:46 nowhereman [~pierre@AStrasbourg-551-1-66-56.w92-141.abo.wanadoo.fr] has joined #scheme 21:34:55 -!- nowhere_man [~pierre@AStrasbourg-551-1-51-181.w83-194.abo.wanadoo.fr] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 21:37:44 -!- keenbug [~daniel@p4FDB7E2F.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Read error: Operation timed out] 21:40:06 -!- gravicappa [~gravicapp@ppp91-77-188-223.pppoe.mtu-net.ru] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 21:40:41 -!- stis [~stis@1-1-1-39a.veo.vs.bostream.se] has left #scheme 21:41:31 phax [~phax@unaffiliated/phax] has joined #scheme 21:43:16 -!- homie [~levgue@xdsl-78-35-137-217.netcologne.de] has quit [Quit: ERC Version 5.3 (IRC client for Emacs)] 21:43:25 -!- wbooze [~levgue@xdsl-78-35-137-217.netcologne.de] has quit [Quit: ERC Version 5.3 (IRC client for Emacs)] 21:50:52 -!- wisey [~Steven@host31-52-156-131.range31-52.btcentralplus.com] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 21:55:13 joyfulgirl [~ivy@209-6-79-248.c3-0.abr-ubr1.sbo-abr.ma.cable.rcn.com] has joined #scheme 21:55:17 -!- joyfulgirl [~ivy@209-6-79-248.c3-0.abr-ubr1.sbo-abr.ma.cable.rcn.com] has quit [Changing host] 21:55:17 joyfulgirl [~ivy@unaffiliated/joyfulgirl] has joined #scheme 22:02:41 -!- fschwidom [~fschwidom@46.115.32.161] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 22:03:12 -!- nowhereman is now known as nowhere_man 22:06:53 -!- mmc2 [~michal@178-85-131-65.dynamic.upc.nl] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 22:34:43 freakazoid [~seanl@c-67-164-106-36.hsd1.ca.comcast.net] has joined #scheme 22:35:21 -!- gffa [~gffa@unaffiliated/gffa] has quit [Quit: sleep] 22:37:13 -!- freakazoid [~seanl@c-67-164-106-36.hsd1.ca.comcast.net] has quit [Client Quit] 22:40:07 -!- bytbox [~s@129.2.129.228] has quit [Quit: Lost terminal] 22:46:07 bytbox [~s@129.2.129.228] has joined #scheme 22:54:04 pjb- [~t@81.202.16.46.dyn.user.ono.com] has joined #scheme 22:55:48 weinholt [weinholt@debian/emeritus/weinholt] has joined #scheme 23:11:33 freakazoid [~seanl@c-67-164-106-36.hsd1.ca.comcast.net] has joined #scheme 23:16:20 -!- copumpkin [~pumpkin@unaffiliated/pumpkingod] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 23:16:45 copumpkin [~pumpkin@unaffiliated/pumpkingod] has joined #scheme 23:22:32 -!- jonrafkind [~jon@jonr5.dsl.xmission.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 23:25:08 -!- bytbox [~s@129.2.129.228] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 23:26:59 bytbox [~s@129.2.129.228] has joined #scheme 23:33:19 wingo [~wingo@90.164.198.39] has joined #scheme 23:33:51 masm [~masm@bl19-172-157.dsl.telepac.pt] has joined #scheme 23:34:39 -!- bytbox [~s@129.2.129.228] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 23:36:36 bytbox [~s@129.2.129.228] has joined #scheme 23:39:31 -!- kuribas [~user@94-227-95-27.access.telenet.be] has quit [Quit: ERC Version 5.3 (IRC client for Emacs)] 23:42:29 -!- joyfulgirl [~ivy@unaffiliated/joyfulgirl] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 23:42:32 -!- amgarchIn9 [~amgarchin@p4FD61395.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 23:42:35 -!- wingo [~wingo@90.164.198.39] has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 23:49:25 -!- phax [~phax@unaffiliated/phax] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 23:56:28 jao [~user@pdpc/supporter/professional/jao] has joined #scheme