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05:45:43 can't get good help these days. 05:45:43 lol 05:59:16 ryanrampersad [~ryanrampe@97-116-90-245.mpls.qwest.net] has joined #scheme 05:59:42 jewel [~jewel@196-215-114-21.dynamic.isadsl.co.za] has joined #scheme 06:01:07 hey guys, i'm having trouble identifying if this procedure runs recursively or iteratively. http://pastebin.com/SmsKeThH 06:08:52 smtlaissezfaire [~smtlaisse@76.15.192.54] has joined #scheme 06:09:18 it looks like it's both :) 06:10:05 -!- smtlaissezfaire [~smtlaisse@76.15.192.54] has quit [Client Quit] 06:10:27 timpersand [~chatzilla@adsl-99-187-239-15.dsl.pltn13.sbcglobal.net] has joined #scheme 06:12:13 both? that's scary. :) well, this is asking more but how could i make it just one or the other? 06:12:19 interglacial [~interglac@95.149.10.228] has joined #scheme 06:15:55 why would you want to do that? 06:16:04 what's so bad about being both? 06:16:13 -!- gnomon [~gnomon@CPE0022158a8221-CM000f9f776f96.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 06:16:28 gnomon [~gnomon@CPE0022158a8221-CM000f9f776f96.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com] has joined #scheme 06:16:43 i wrote this for an assignment, and it was supposed to be just recursive or just iterative 06:18:17 ryanrampersad: this might force it to be purely recursive, but it's silly: http://ix.io/1Vi 06:20:15 i see how it is tricky to make it just one 06:22:14 woonie [~woonie@krhall0007.pc.nus.edu.sg] has joined #scheme 06:27:26 and I do not see why your teacher demands that it be one or the other. 06:27:33 -!- Arafangion [~Arafangio@220-244-108-23.static.tpgi.com.au] has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 06:30:52 it's a practice in recursive vs. iterative 06:31:31 -!- woonie [~woonie@krhall0007.pc.nus.edu.sg] has quit [Quit: Nettalk6 - www.ntalk.de] 06:31:38 i'll see what they score it as next week, so maybe they'll be nice :) 06:37:12 how can I run shell commands with scheme? 06:37:17 guile actually 06:40:06 If you were running scsh, it would be easy! 06:40:32 It's probably easy in guile, too, but only if you know the answer, which I don't. 06:42:01 any 1 else know? 06:42:09 frhodes: I don't know the exact function to call, but I'm certain there are a couple of functions to run shell commands, some others to start processes without the shell. 06:42:15 it's in the docs. 06:43:54 frhodes: http://www.gnu.org/software/guile/manual/html_node/Processes.html#Processes tells me you want either "system" or "system*" 06:43:55 http://tinyurl.com/3e5vj69 06:45:01 offby1: That should have been via a lmgtfy link. :) 06:45:19 levi: yeah, I know 06:45:26 but I cut fellow schemers some slack. 06:45:37 Also wingo is doing great stuff with guile; I want people to dig on it 06:45:40 ok, that works 06:46:02 I do have another question, how do I embed scheme into C and vice versa? 06:46:18 by the way thanks for the links and stuff. 06:47:10 frhodes: Now you're just being lazy. You already have a link to the docs. :) 06:47:22 ok... :) 06:47:26 yes, I'm lazy 06:47:44 I'll check out the docs 06:49:33 You couldn't possibly successfully embed scheme into C and vice versa without being very friendly with the docs for your particular scheme. 06:49:49 Or the source code, but I imagine you'll prefer the docs. 06:50:37 what I want to do is create a guile interface to mplayer 06:54:38 Doesn't it have a nifty stdin/stdout control interface so you can control it without doing any messy code-melding? 06:54:44 -!- karswell [~mjc@93-97-29-243.zone5.bethere.co.uk] has quit [Excess Flood] 06:55:41 karswell [~mjc@93-97-29-243.zone5.bethere.co.uk] has joined #scheme 06:57:50 -!- ryanrampersad [~ryanrampe@97-116-90-245.mpls.qwest.net] has quit [Quit: This computer has gone to sleep] 07:01:22 -!- arcfide [1000@c-69-136-7-94.hsd1.in.comcast.net] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 07:01:43 frhodes: Yup, I see the same thing. 07:15:37 -!- gnomon [~gnomon@CPE0022158a8221-CM000f9f776f96.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 07:15:52 gnomon [~gnomon@CPE0022158a8221-CM000f9f776f96.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com] has joined #scheme 07:18:31 -!- mithos28 [~eric@99-113-32-54.lightspeed.sntcca.sbcglobal.net] has quit [Quit: mithos28] 07:27:05 I wasn't paying attention when it was building; there were a bunch of missing libraries during the compile process and it built without UI support compiled-in. 07:30:55 Sorry, wrong channel. :P 07:35:25 replore [~replore@ntkngw304073.kngw.nt.ftth.ppp.infoweb.ne.jp] has joined #scheme 07:43:37 -!- timpersand [~chatzilla@adsl-99-187-239-15.dsl.pltn13.sbcglobal.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 08:03:18 -!- leppie [~lolcow@196-215-36-200.dynamic.isadsl.co.za] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 08:05:38 ccorn [~ccorn@g132123.upc-g.chello.nl] has joined #scheme 08:07:55 does let create local variables, or does it create a procedure? 08:08:55 let binds a name to something, it can be both 08:09:37 -!- githogori [~githogori@c-24-7-1-43.hsd1.ca.comcast.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 08:09:55 leppie [~lolcow@196-215-36-200.dynamic.isadsl.co.za] has joined #scheme 08:10:43 but let itself is not a procedure? 08:12:41 so are you asking about what let does or how it is implemented? 08:13:09 what let does. 08:13:35 does it create a procedure whose arguments are the variables? 08:14:46 no, it binds names to things that can be referred to by the names in the let body 08:14:58 these things can be procedures or other values 08:15:40 (let ((x 1) (y 2)) (display x) (display y)) will output 12 08:17:01 (let ((x 1) (y 2) (p (lambda (thing) (display thing)))) (p x) (p y)) will also output 12 08:17:32 you see you can bind values to names with let, and in case of p that is a procedure 08:18:28 so in a sense it introduces "local variables" as known from other languages but in scheme you say it introduces "local bindings" 08:18:29 ok so all let does is bind names to values, values which can be procedures also, to be local variables within the let body? 08:18:38 yes 08:19:03 ok, that makes more sense to me. 08:19:29 frhodes: if you need to refer to each value within another value binding you have to use let* 08:19:52 (let* ((x 1) (y (+ x 2))) (display x) (display y)) will output 13 08:20:11 -!- pygospa [~TheRealPy@kiel-5f77bb04.pool.mediaWays.net] has quit [Disconnected by services] 08:20:17 TheRealPygo [~TheRealPy@kiel-d9bfd20e.pool.mediaWays.net] has joined #scheme 08:21:16 ok cool 08:21:41 frhodes: in any case you should get a copy of R5RS, which is a nice document and will serve you as an excellent reference, or the documentation of your scheme system 08:23:30 kilimanjaro [~kilimanja@unaffiliated/kilimanjaro] has joined #scheme 08:35:33 -!- replore [~replore@ntkngw304073.kngw.nt.ftth.ppp.infoweb.ne.jp] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 08:36:50 -!- ccorn [~ccorn@g132123.upc-g.chello.nl] has quit [Quit: ccorn] 08:44:50 araujo [~araujo@gentoo/developer/araujo] has joined #scheme 09:01:27 gravicappa [~gravicapp@ppp91-77-171-84.pppoe.mtu-net.ru] has joined #scheme 09:01:48 -!- wbooze [~levgue@xdsl-78-35-169-250.netcologne.de] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 09:01:57 -!- homie [~levgue@xdsl-78-35-169-250.netcologne.de] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 09:03:11 homie [~levgue@xdsl-78-35-158-30.netcologne.de] has joined #scheme 09:03:33 wbooze [~levgue@xdsl-78-35-158-30.netcologne.de] has joined #scheme 09:06:08 -!- kilimanjaro [~kilimanja@unaffiliated/kilimanjaro] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 09:21:36 -!- frhodes [~user@75-173-67-252.albq.qwest.net] has quit [Quit: ERC Version 5.3 (IRC client for Emacs)] 09:22:10 frhodes [~user@75-173-67-252.albq.qwest.net] has joined #scheme 09:24:31 -!- jewel [~jewel@196-215-114-21.dynamic.isadsl.co.za] has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 09:54:27 superjudge [~superjudg@c83-250-198-227.bredband.comhem.se] has joined #scheme 09:57:10 -!- superjudge [~superjudg@c83-250-198-227.bredband.comhem.se] has quit [Client Quit] 10:05:15 Kajtek [~nope@nat4-230.ghnet.pl] has joined #scheme 10:13:01 githogori [~githogori@c-24-7-1-43.hsd1.ca.comcast.net] has joined #scheme 10:14:42 -!- githogori [~githogori@c-24-7-1-43.hsd1.ca.comcast.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 10:17:52 githogori [~githogori@c-24-7-1-43.hsd1.ca.comcast.net] has joined #scheme 10:22:18 soveran [~soveran@186.19.214.247] has joined #scheme 10:23:00 Faraway [~Faraway@c-98-236-186-33.hsd1.pa.comcast.net] has joined #scheme 10:23:05 \list 10:23:07 \List 10:23:14 -!- Faraway [~Faraway@c-98-236-186-33.hsd1.pa.comcast.net] has left #scheme 10:29:56 -!- dnolen [~davidnole@cpe-98-14-92-234.nyc.res.rr.com] has quit [Quit: dnolen] 10:31:28 lol 10:52:22 -!- wbooze [~levgue@xdsl-78-35-158-30.netcologne.de] has quit [Quit: ERC Version 5.3 (IRC client for Emacs)] 10:52:28 -!- homie [~levgue@xdsl-78-35-158-30.netcologne.de] has quit [Quit: ERC Version 5.3 (IRC client for Emacs)] 10:55:29 -!- githogori [~githogori@c-24-7-1-43.hsd1.ca.comcast.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 11:03:14 homie [~levgue@xdsl-78-35-158-30.netcologne.de] has joined #scheme 11:03:49 -!- gravicappa [~gravicapp@ppp91-77-171-84.pppoe.mtu-net.ru] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 11:08:08 replore [~replore@ntkngw304073.kngw.nt.ftth.ppp.infoweb.ne.jp] has joined #scheme 11:08:10 wbooze [~levgue@xdsl-78-35-158-30.netcologne.de] has joined #scheme 11:13:46 -!- Nshag [user@chl45-1-88-123-84-8.fbx.proxad.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 11:17:41 Nshag [user@chl45-1-88-123-84-8.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #scheme 11:20:41 ijp [~user@host109-151-54-221.range109-151.btcentralplus.com] has joined #scheme 11:22:17 how can I concatenate strings with guile? 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13:09:03 <|TheWolf|> "List head 0 is not a procedure" 13:09:27 woonie [~woonie@spnp130032.spnp.nus.edu.sg] has joined #scheme 13:09:35 ventonegro [~alex@205-247.60-188.cust.bluewin.ch] has joined #scheme 13:10:24 kk` [~kk@77.107.164.131] has joined #scheme 13:10:24 -!- kk` [~kk@77.107.164.131] has quit [Changing host] 13:10:24 kk` [~kk@unaffiliated/kk/x-5380134] has joined #scheme 13:11:31 *fds* has a strange sense of deja vu. 13:12:29 <|TheWolf|> fds : hey =) 13:12:39 <|TheWolf|> yeah, sorry, I know 13:12:40 X-Scale [email@sgi-ultra64.broker.freenet6.net] has joined #scheme 13:12:40 -!- X-Scale is now known as Guest2072 13:12:49 <|TheWolf|> I'm just don't getting it really 13:12:52 <|TheWolf|> (yet) 13:13:17 Well, I'll give you a clue. This error message is _exactly_ the same as the last one you came in here with. ;-) 13:13:48 -!- Guest2072 is now known as X-Scale 13:13:51 And you should learn to indent your code properly! Are you using a textbook or something? 13:13:59 <|TheWolf|> yes, and last time the problem was there were parenthesis that were unnecessary, right? 13:14:05 Yes 13:14:10 <|TheWolf|> fds : no, should I? 13:14:39 Well, you don't need to use a textbook, no. But I presume that whatever is teaching you Scheme should also teach you how to write it nicely. 13:15:03 Then you'll get used to how it looks and not get so confused about where to put parentheses. 13:16:05 |TheWolf|: SICP is your friend: https://docs.google.com/viewer?a=v&pid=explorer&chrome=true&srcid=0BxVCLS4f8Sg5OGUwMmZlZjYtZWQ4Zi00ZThmLWFkMjYtNTIxZmY4ODhjNDdl&hl=en&authkey=CLnyyF4 13:16:05 http://tinyurl.com/3tedz73 13:16:24 <|TheWolf|> fds : well, we will be learning tScheme in university and I'm just trying to do kind of getting into that language so I don't have to do all the first-step basics when I'll have to do homework in it 13:16:37 <|TheWolf|> X-Scale : thanks, I'll have a look 13:18:20 <|TheWolf|> thanks guys, I'll have to go 13:18:24 -!- |TheWolf| [~TheWolf@Wikipedia/TheWolf] has left #scheme 13:37:04 -!- Brendan_T [~brendan@46.105.251.111] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 13:47:55 -!- ventonegro [~alex@205-247.60-188.cust.bluewin.ch] has quit [Quit: 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Cuckoo's Nest, Sometimes a Great Notion, and ... 18:49:44 I also went through a Tom Wolfe phase, starting with The Right Stuff, then ...Acid Test and thenceforth pretty much everything else. 18:56:40 offby1: demon Box is another 18:56:59 oh yeah, Kool-Aid Acid Test was wolfe, oops. 18:57:21 offby1: did Bonfire put you off Wolfe? cured me completely. I can't stand even to look at him any more :) 18:57:29 it started the process. 18:57:32 haha 18:57:35 I did enjoy it but with some misgivings. 18:58:05 Actually I seem to recall enjoying "A Man In Full". Couldn't finish "I am Charlotte Whatshername", though. 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Explain how it manages to work. 20:50:26 (define (sum-square a b) 20:50:26 (let ((+ *) 20:50:26 (* +)) 20:50:29 (* (+ a a) (+ b b)))) 20:50:42 does let create a procedure, or just make local variables. 20:50:50 it would be equivalent to (+ (* a a) (* b b)) 20:51:34 it seems that it would be both * 20:51:37 you can think of let as being like ((lambda (arg ...) ...) val ...) 20:51:46 ok 20:51:53 let binds them all at once, let* does it sequentially 20:52:12 so with let* it would be both *? 20:52:19 yes 20:52:32 ok cool, that makes sense 20:54:38 karswell [~mjc@93-97-29-243.zone5.bethere.co.uk] has joined #scheme 20:55:13 amgarchIn9 [~amgarchin@p4FD616CB.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #scheme 20:56:00 Hi, is "->" a legal symbol for a predicate as in (-> a b)? 20:56:28 I am not inteding to "dereference" this symbol 20:58:41 -!- snizzo [~quassel@host103-12-dynamic.20-79-r.retail.telecomitalia.it] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 20:59:06 -!- kuribas [~user@d54C43206.access.telenet.be] has quit [Quit: ERC Version 5.3 (IRC client for Emacs)] 21:03:47 It is not valid according to the r5rs grammar, but I think it is according to the r6rs. 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