00:00:06 PreciousMetals [~Heart@pool-173-79-234-125.washdc.fios.verizon.net] has joined #scheme 00:00:18 -!- PreciousMetals [~Heart@pool-173-79-234-125.washdc.fios.verizon.net] has quit [Changing host] 00:00:18 PreciousMetals [~Heart@unaffiliated/colours] has joined #scheme 00:00:30 -!- replore_ [~replore@203.152.213.161.static.zoot.jp] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 00:01:14 -!- samth is now known as samth_away 00:09:10 -!- gigamonkey [~user@adsl-99-24-222-56.dsl.pltn13.sbcglobal.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 00:14:21 levi [~user@c-174-52-219-147.hsd1.ut.comcast.net] has joined #scheme 00:15:28 -!- masm [~masm@bl15-66-91.dsl.telepac.pt] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 00:19:06 pranq [pranq@unaffiliated/contempt] has joined #scheme 00:19:29 klutometis: What samth said. Put it differently, in the context of computing, there is no place for "bias" -- one wins and one loses, and the difference is huge enough that "old NLP" is dead for all practical purposes.. 00:24:21 Cowmoo [~Cowmoo@c-71-192-163-98.hsd1.nh.comcast.net] has joined #scheme 00:25:33 -!- arcfide [1000@c-69-136-7-94.hsd1.in.comcast.net] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 00:28:50 -!- MrFahrenheit [~RageOfTho@users-60-50.vinet.ba] has quit [Ping timeout: 258 seconds] 00:30:37 -!- fizzie [fis@iris.zem.fi] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 00:38:14 fizzie [fis@iris.zem.fi] has joined #scheme 00:40:40 -!- blackened [~blackened@ip-89-102-29-120.net.upcbroadband.cz] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 00:53:40 kilimanjaro [~kilimanja@unaffiliated/kilimanjaro] has joined #scheme 01:02:12 -!- woonie [~woonie@nusnet-228-5.dynip.nus.edu.sg] has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 01:02:38 dnolen [~davidnole@cpe-98-14-92-234.nyc.res.rr.com] has joined #scheme 01:07:46 -!- jrapdx [~jra@74-95-41-205-Oregon.hfc.comcastbusiness.net] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 01:19:27 rudybot [~luser@ec2-204-236-150-238.us-west-1.compute.amazonaws.com] has joined #scheme 01:23:01 -!- jonrafkind [~jon@crystalis.cs.utah.edu] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 01:25:34 -!- otakutomo [~otakutomo@KD027083117212.ppp-bb.dion.ne.jp] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 01:30:17 woonie [~woonie@nusnet-74-177.dynip.nus.edu.sg] has joined #scheme 01:37:28 githogori [~githogori@c-24-7-1-43.hsd1.ca.comcast.net] has joined #scheme 01:42:02 otakutomo [~otakutomo@KD027083117212.ppp-bb.dion.ne.jp] has joined #scheme 01:52:36 -!- woonie [~woonie@nusnet-74-177.dynip.nus.edu.sg] has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 01:59:54 -!- bgs100 [~ian@unaffiliated/bgs100] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 02:00:36 -!- kilimanjaro [~kilimanja@unaffiliated/kilimanjaro] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 02:24:16 wolfpython [~wolf@180.109.58.189] has joined #scheme 02:41:20 khisanth_ [~Khisanth@50.14.244.111] has joined #scheme 02:42:37 -!- Khisanth [~Khisanth@50.14.244.111] has quit [Ping timeout: 258 seconds] 02:51:06 -!- clog [~nef@bespin.org] has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 02:51:11 clog [~nef@bespin.org] has joined #scheme 02:55:04 preflex_ [~preflex@unaffiliated/mauke/bot/preflex] has joined #scheme 02:55:11 -!- preflex [~preflex@unaffiliated/mauke/bot/preflex] has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 02:55:48 -!- preflex_ is now known as preflex 03:00:21 musicalchair [4ceb08a4@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.235.8.164] has joined #scheme 03:02:06 hey guys, I'm starting to learn scheme and am looking for some good code to read. Can someone recommend a project I could check out with 'good code'? 03:06:36 -!- Euthydemus` [~euthydemu@unaffiliated/euthydemus] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 03:06:49 Euthydemus [~euthydemu@unaffiliated/euthydemus] has joined #scheme 03:07:07 -!- gffa [~gffa@unaffiliated/gffa] has quit [Quit: sleep] 03:11:42 eli: Ok, but you've changed the parameters of the conversation; it went from: "I think of Latin 'rapio' when ones says 'rape'" to: "Google can't afford enough grad students to make prescriptive NLP work." 03:12:05 There may not be enough grad students on earth to annotate the internet corpus; but, given sufficient resources, Google could breed them. 03:14:05 -!- khisanth_ is now known as Khisanth 03:15:52 klutometis: logical next step. Breeding incubators at Google. inb4 Huxley 03:19:08 -!- turbofail [~user@c-107-3-149-149.hsd1.ca.comcast.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 03:21:58 qu1j0t3: Heh; maybe they'll release Ghatchery (Beta) after they've blanketed Nevada with autonomous cars and solar-scaped the Mojave. 03:22:03 kilimanjaro [~kilimanja@unaffiliated/kilimanjaro] has joined #scheme 03:28:46 mithos28 [~eric@99-113-32-54.lightspeed.sntcca.sbcglobal.net] has joined #scheme 03:28:52 klutometis: No, I didn't change it, my argument is still that "strictly speaking, \"rape\" means according to the original use of the word from 17" is a lame excuse. Rape in current language means just what you know it does. 03:30:46 "prescriptivism is lame. everybody knows descriptivism wins." 03:32:20 realitygrill [~realitygr@76.226.213.183] has joined #scheme 03:32:20 -!- realitygrill [~realitygr@76.226.213.183] has quit [Client Quit] 03:33:13 -!- lonstein [lonstein@ohno.mrbill.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 258 seconds] 03:36:30 -!- musicalchair [4ceb08a4@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.235.8.164] has quit [Quit: Page closed] 03:37:24 jonrafkind [~jon@jonr5.dsl.xmission.com] has joined #scheme 03:38:01 -!- MichaelRaskin [~MichaelRa@195.91.224.225] has quit [Ping timeout: 258 seconds] 04:05:50 -!- annihilator [~rff@ip72-207-241-136.br.br.cox.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 04:06:46 replore [~replore@203.152.213.161.static.zoot.jp] has joined #scheme 04:07:08 -!- ijp [~user@host81-159-30-190.range81-159.btcentralplus.com] has quit [Quit: ciao] 04:12:20 woonie [~woonie@s120070.pc.nus.edu.sg] has joined #scheme 04:17:11 -!- dlila 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(define h 12) ? 13:16:08 Write a macro. (define-enum my-enum (a 0) b c d e f g (h 12)) 13:16:10 ijp [~user@host31-53-16-190.range31-53.btcentralplus.com] has joined #scheme 13:17:53 sloyd [sloyd@station457.vo3.net] has joined #scheme 13:18:40 Or (define-values (a b c d e f g h) (apply values (iota 13)))? 13:18:59 there aren't 13 letters between a and h. 13:19:33 Quite right... 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17:29:03 zmyrgel: What do you mean? 17:29:40 I'm following Okasaki's purely functional data structures I'm got stuck implementing set as list 17:30:07 I can make it work with numbers but for example strings use different comparison functions 17:30:47 zmyrgel: then pass the comparison function as argument. 17:31:56 pjb: didn't figure how to do that nicely 17:32:24 (insert elem set comparator-fn) seems bit of a hack 17:33:04 zmyrgel: then store the comparator in the set data structure 17:33:58 so set {1 2 3} => ((lambda (x y) ...) 1 2 3) ? 17:34:21 zmyrgel: you can also attach the comparator to the set data structure. 17:34:37 turbofail [~user@c-107-3-149-149.hsd1.ca.comcast.net] has joined #scheme 17:34:37 yes. 17:34:52 except using a list to represent it is a bad idea 17:34:57 zmyrgel: But I'd rather use a structure than a list, so that you get unique a lisp type. 17:35:44 pjb: structure as in record? 17:36:42 yes. 17:37:10 ok, gotta see how it would work 17:37:24 would make things bit clearer at least when making trees 17:38:55 zmyrgel: srfi-1 implements some set operations using lists. Maybe you can use it as inspiration (or anti-inspiration). 17:41:01 mario-goulart: ok, gotta take peek at there 17:41:25 found common lisp notes for the same book which help a bit too 17:48:48 For a comparator-based set, probably the best idea is to use a binary tree. 17:48:56 So you'd just define a record type for representing that. 17:49:16 Even if your record type has only two fields: comparator, root. 17:49:32 yep, working on it. was tree all along now that I checked it :) 17:49:38 Then you can have a node record type with 3 fields: value, left, right. 17:49:51 Or some might prefer: left, value, right. ;-) 17:50:01 -!- MichaelRaskin [~MichaelRa@195.91.224.225] has left #scheme 17:50:35 Childless nodes can have #f for both left and right. 17:50:37 :-P 17:55:21 MichaelRaskin [~MichaelRa@195.91.224.225] has joined #scheme 17:58:01 -!- MrFahrenheit [~RageOfTho@users-60-50.vinet.ba] has quit [Ping timeout: 258 seconds] 18:02:03 -!- MichaelRaskin [~MichaelRa@195.91.224.225] has quit [Ping timeout: 258 seconds] 18:04:37 -!- chrissbx [~chrissbx@69-196-180-202.dsl.teksavvy.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 18:09:53 HG` [~HG@tmo-111-92.customers.d1-online.com] has joined #scheme 18:17:29 -!- HG` [~HG@tmo-111-92.customers.d1-online.com] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 18:22:08 -!- kilimanjaro [~kilimanja@unaffiliated/kilimanjaro] has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 18:35:58 Does anyone have some opinions on Arc? 18:36:30 It's not Common Lisp. 18:37:30 The guy who's creating Arc made millions writing a Common Lisp program. Nobody made a dollar writing Arc programs. 18:39:16 dostoyevsky: i've read some of your books. pretty cool. 18:39:27 dostoyevsky: arc optimizes the number of keystrokes used to produce a simple discussion website 18:44:46 -!- leo2007 [~leo@123.114.54.193] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 18:47:33 jrapdx [~jra@74-95-41-205-Oregon.hfc.comcastbusiness.net] has joined #scheme 18:48:44 -!- jonrafkind [~jon@jonr5.dsl.xmission.com] has quit [Read error: Operation timed out] 18:49:02 wisey [~Steven@host86-164-93-171.range86-164.btcentralplus.com] has joined #scheme 18:53:22 sigh... I think it starts to be my bedtime 18:53:55 I've spent last 15 min debugging my code for pretty obvious thing 18:54:00 *eli* notes that arc is also not Pacal, Hebrew, or a slightly steamed eggplants with soy sauce. 18:54:13 s/a// 18:54:37 surprisingly functional data structures won't change existing references to it :) 18:55:22 eli: I'm just complaining at the gratuituousness of making a lisp different from common lisps just for the sake of making it different. It would be better to implement the wanted features as libraries to Common Lisp (or even to scheme). 18:56:58 pjb: I can guarantee you that making it arc for the sake of making it different is wrong. (Also, you've confused the order of your "X (or even Y)".) 18:57:24 Is arc a lisp-1? 18:57:55 Yes. 18:58:01 Then indeed. 18:58:05 No. 18:58:17 Then I wasn't confused. 18:58:52 Yes, it's a lisp one. No, even if it weren't, you've still confused the order. Please double-check which channel you're on. 19:00:50 We're not on #arc. The creator of arc wasn't a schemer, but a Common Lisper. It's in reaction to Common Lisp that he decided to design arc. 19:01:34 Well, he built it on top of Racket, didn't he? :-) 19:02:31 pjb: No, in #arc the context wouldn't matter for the order; but you're in #scheme, so the question is in a Scheme context. Like it or not. 19:02:58 (And yes, both PG and RTM are schemers just as they're CLers.) 19:10:03 fschwidom [~fschwidom@46.115.24.148] has joined #scheme 19:14:23 -!- zmyrgel [~user@hoasb-ff0cdd00-22.dhcp.inet.fi] has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 19:17:43 I am just wondering why someone mentions Racket in a discussion on arc code, like here: http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=3098756 19:18:01 But as you said, it's based on Racket... 19:26:37 nicdev_ [~user@static-72-74-85-37.bstnma.fios.verizon.net] has joined #scheme 19:28:21 jonrafkind [~jon@crystalis.cs.utah.edu] has joined #scheme 19:30:07 bgs100 [~ian@h173.116.187.173.dynamic.ip.windstream.net] has joined #scheme 19:30:09 -!- bgs100 [~ian@h173.116.187.173.dynamic.ip.windstream.net] has quit [Changing host] 19:30:09 bgs100 [~ian@unaffiliated/bgs100] has joined #scheme 19:36:43 keenbug [~daniel@p4FE3A880.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #scheme 19:40:31 soveran [~soveran@dan75-2-87-91-33-52.dsl.sta.abo.bbox.fr] has joined #scheme 19:58:34 -!- fschwidom [~fschwidom@46.115.24.148] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 20:04:12 -!- Hal9k [~Hal@unaffiliated/kusanagi] has quit [] 20:05:55 -!- XTL [~XTL@dsl-olubrasgw2-fe6af800-251.dhcp.inet.fi] has quit [Quit: ZNC - 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